On Lavrov’s Spat With Israel - Who Is Right?

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On Lavrov’s Spat With Israel – Who Is Right?


by Moon of Alabama

May 5, 2022


Moon of Alabama – May 4, 2022

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is in a spat with
Israel over its support for Nazis militia in the Ukraine.

The immediate cause is a passage in an interview Lavrov had
with the Italian TV network Mediaset:

Question: This is how you see it, while Vladimir Zelensky
puts it differently. He believes denazification doesn’t make
any sense. He is a Jew. The Nazis, Azov – there are very few
of them (several thousand). Vladimir Zelensky refutes your
view of the situation. Do you believe Vladimir Zelensky is
an obstacle to peace?

Sergey Lavrov: It makes no difference to me what President
Vladimir Zelensky refutes or does not refute. He is as
fickle as the wind, as they say. He can change his position
several times a day.

I heard him say that they would not even discuss
demilitarisation and denazification during peace talks.
First, they are torpedoing the talks just as they did the
Minsk agreements for eight years. Second, there is
nazification there: the captured militants as well as
members of the Azov and Aidar battalions and other units
wear swastikas or symbols of Nazi Waffen-SS battalions on
their clothes or have them tattooed on their bodies; they
openly read and promote Mein Kampf. His argument is: How can
there be Nazism in Ukraine if he is a Jew? I may be mistaken
but Adolf Hitler had Jewish blood, too. This means
absolutely nothing. The wise Jewish people say that the most
ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. “Every family has its
black sheep,” as we say.

The Zionist entity in Palestine reacted with harsh words:

The Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, condemned on
Monday a recent claim by the Russian foreign minister,
Sergey V. Lavrov, that Jews were “the biggest antisemites.”

The Israeli Foreign Ministry also summoned the Russian
ambassador to Israel to explain Mr. Lavrov’s remarks, while
the Israeli foreign minister, Yair Lapid, demanded an
apology.
…
Mr. Bennett said that he viewed Mr. Lavrov’s remarks with
the “utmost severity,” saying that the comments were “untrue
and their intentions are wrong.”

Mr. Bennett added, “The goal of such lies is to accuse the
Jews themselves of the most awful crimes in history, which
were perpetrated against them, and thereby absolve Israel’s
enemies of responsibility.”

Separately, Mr. Lapid said that Mr. Lavrov’s comments were
“both an unforgivable and outrageous statement as well as a
terrible historical error.”

“Jews did not murder themselves in the Holocaust,” he added.
“The lowest level of racism against Jews is to accuse Jews
themselves of antisemitism.”

Mr. Lapid has a big mouth that hides the whitewashing of
Jewish Nazi collaborators in which his own family was
involved.

But first let us tackle the question of Adolf Hitler’s
ancestry. The History channel has a piece on it:

In the decades since Adolf Hitler’s death, the Nazi leader’s
ancestry has been a subject of rampant speculation and
intense controversy. Some have suggested that his father,
Alois, born to an unwed woman named Maria Schickelgruber,
was the illegitimate child of Leopold Frankenberger, a young
Jewish man whose family employed her as a maid. (She
subsequently married Johann Georg Hiedler–later spelled
“Hitler”–whose surname her son adopted.)

In 2019 the Jerusalem Post reported of new research on the
issue:

[A] study by psychologist and physician Leonard Sax has shed
new light supporting the claim that Hitler’s father’s father
had Jewish roots.

The study, titled “Aus den Gemeinden von Burgenland:
Revisiting the question of Adolf Hitler’s paternal
grandfather,” which was published in the current issue of
the Journal of European Studies, examines claims by Hitler’s
lawyer Hans Frank, who allegedly discovered the truth.

Hitler asked Frank to look into the claim in 1930, after his
nephew William Patrick Hitler threatened to expose that the
leader’s grandfather was Jewish.

In his 1946 memoir, which was published seven years after he
was executed during the Nuremberg trials, “Frank claimed to
have uncovered evidence in 1930 that Hitler’s paternal
grandfather was a Jewish man living in Graz, Austria, in the
household where Hitler’s grandmother was employed,” and it
was in 1836 that Hitler’s grandmother Maria Anna
Schicklgruber became pregnant, Sax explained.
…
Sax writes in the study that according to the letters in
Frank’s memoir, “Frankenberger Sr. sent money for the
support of the child from infancy until its 14th birthday.”

“The motivation for the payment, according to Frank, was not
charity but primarily a concern about the authorities
becoming involved: ‘The Jew paid without a court order,
because he was concerned about the result of a court hearing
and the connected publicity,’” the letters state.

It seems to me that Lavrov has that one right. It really
seems that Adolf Hitler had some Jewish ancestors who even
paid for the upbringing of his father.

Now onto the other issue, Lavrov’s claim that:

.. the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. “Every
family has its black sheep,” as we say.

Yair Lapid does not agree with that. Well, his father didn’t
either until, to his embarrassment, some new facts proved
him wrong. There is for example the well known case of
Rudolf Kasztner in which Lapid’s father was involved.


New research, based on Holocaust survivor testimonies,
suggests that Rezso Kasztner (also known as Rudolph),
pictured, helped the Third Reich murder almost
half-a-million Jewish men, women and children. Click to
enlarge

As the Times of Israel reported in 2016:

[The British Jewish historian Paul] Bogdanor was “extremely
shocked” to find that everything pointed towards Kasztner’s
having been “a collaborator” with the Nazis, and a “betrayer
of the Zionist movement and the Jewish people.”

Bogdanor’s new book, “Kasztner’s Crime,” published in
October, sets out the case against the Jewish leader in
damning detail. Even the most devoted defender might have
second thoughts after reading his book.
…
Kasztner was a leader of a small Zionist grouping in
Budapest towards the end of World War II. He led a Jewish
rescue committee which, before the Nazis entered Hungary,
did succeed in saving the lives of a number of Jews. But
once the Nazis arrived, Kasztner, an ambitious lawyer,
became embroiled in prolonged negotiations with the Nazi
leadership, particularly Adolf Eichmann.

After complex dealings with Eichmann, Kasztner succeeded in
getting the Nazis to agree to the deportation of a group of
1,684 Hungarian Jews, the so-called “Kasztner Train,” who
eventually ended up in freedom in Switzerland.

But thousands more continued on the doomed path to
Auschwitz. Bogdanor says that not only did Kasztner know
they were being sent to their deaths, but that he actively
kept such information secret from other Jews in Hungary and
the wider Jewish world.

Kasztner deliberately put selected strong Zionists who
wanted to emigrate to Palestine on his list. Those Hungarian
Jews who did not want to emigrate were deceived by him to
believe that the Nazis were no danger to them. Kazstner
himself later found a role in the Zionist establishment:

Kasztner himself did not get on the train, but survived the
war and made his way to Palestine. By 1952 he was a
spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and a would-be member of
Knesset, though he did not succeed in obtaining a place high
enough on the Mapai list to become elected.

Nevertheless, when, in 1953, an embittered Hungarian Jew
named Malkiel Gruenwald distributed a pamphlet about
Kasztner, naming him as a Nazi collaborator, the Israeli
government thought highly enough of him to bring a libel
suit on his behalf, accusing Gruenwald of defamation.

During the trial, dozens of witnesses testified about
Kasztner’s actions during the war. The case lasted 18 months
and did not end well for him. The presiding judge ruled that
Kasztner had indeed collaborated, and in words which echo
down the years, said he had “sold his soul to the devil.”

The Israeli government of the day fell and Kasztner and his
family became virtual prisoners in their home. He resigned
from his post, his wife sank into depression and his
daughter spoke, years later, of having been ostracized and
mocked by other children at school.

On March 3, 1957, right-wing extremists shot Kasztner dead.
The following year, too late for him, the court verdict was
reversed, suggesting that much of what was claimed against
him was not correct. Leading the campaign in ensuing years
to rehabilitate Kasztner was journalist and political Tommy
Lapid, himself a Hungarian Jew and father of Yair Lapid, the
leader of today’s Yesh Atid party.

The father of the current Foreign Minister of Israel Yair
Lapid tried to rehabilitate Kasztner. But the British
historian found that Kasztner was indeed guilty:

“Kasztner didn’t start out as someone evil,” says Bogdanor.
“He started out as someone who wanted to rescue Jews, and
before March 1944, he did rescue Jews. But when the Nazis
occupied Hungary, he began negotiating with them and, very
quickly, I argue, he became a collaborator.”
…
The central charge made against Kasztner by the surviving
Hungarian Jews was, says Bogdanor, “not just that he failed
to warn them [of the Nazis’ intention]. It was that Kasztner
had instructed local Jewish leadership to mislead them, and
to deceive them into boarding the trains to Auschwitz. After
Kasztner had visited the local communities, the leadership
spread false information — which he had given them — that
the Jews were going to be resettled inside Hungary. Agranat
and the other judges overlooked this matter of deception.”

Bogdanor admits to being profoundly shocked by the depth and
extent of what he found out about Kasztner. It would have
been bad enough, he argues, if Kasztner had passively
collaborated with the Nazis. But he actively collaborated,
he says, taking steps to mislead both Jews inside Hungary
and his Jewish contacts in the outside world.

Yair Lapid, just like his father, is wrong. There were quite
a number of Jewish collaborators and some were even officers
in Hitlers Wehrmacht.

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded to Yair
Lapid’s false accusations:

Michael Elgort ✡️ @just_whatever – 9:18 UTC · May 3, 2022
Today Russian @mfa_Russia has officially replied on its
telegram channel to @yairlapid statement that you see below
and this reply deserves to be translated and posted in full.
A long thread with full translation below, link to the
source in the end

The complete translation of the Foreign Ministry statement
is here. It says (format edited for readability):

We paid attention to the anti-historical statements of
Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, which largely explain
the course of the current Israeli government to support the
neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv. The Israeli minister said literally
the following: “The Jews did not destroy themselves during
the Holocaust. Blaming Jews for antisemitism is a blatant
level of racism against Jews”.

For some reason, the Western press (and some of our
liberals) still argue about whether there are neo-Nazis in
Ukraine. The Jewish origin of Vladimir @ZelenskyyUa is
given, as one of the “reinforced concrete” arguments. The
argument is not only untenable, but also crafty. History,
unfortunately, knows tragic examples of cooperation between
Jews and the Nazis. In Poland and other countries of Eastern
Europe, the Germans appointed Jewish industrialists as heads
of ghettos and Jewish councils (“Judenrats”), some of whom
are remembered for absolutely monstrous deeds.

Jakub Leikin in Warsaw conducted surveillance of the Jews
and reported everything to the German occupation
administration, dooming his compatriots to certain, and
sometimes painful death, and Chaim Rumkowski generally
offered the Jews of Lodz to give their children to the Nazis
in exchange for saving the lives of adult residents of the
ghetto, there are many evidence of his words. It only
remains to agree with H. Dreyfus a professor of history at
Tel Aviv University, that the complicity of Jews in the
Holocaust is a “marginal phenomenon” (but not a taboo and is
the subject of research). …

The Foreign Ministry then points to Israeli government
sources which documented a big increase of antisemitism in
Ukraine since the 2014 Maidan coup:

Since the coup in 2014, antisemitism has flourished in
Ukraine. The report of the Minister for Relations with the
Diaspora of Israel, @naftalibennett (PM now), indicates that
in 2017 the number of antisemitic incidents including dozens
of acts of vandalism in museums, synagogues and memorials,
increased manifold in Ukraine.

Ukraine has become the leader among all the countries of the
former USSR in terms of the number of antisemitic incidents,
and some publications indicate that Ukraine generally
surpasses all the countries of the former USSR combined in
their number. One of the prominent representatives of the
Jewish movement in Ukraine, Eduard Dolinsky, recently feared
the termination of the activities of his organization
(“Ukrainian Jewish Committee”).

There is a certain tradition of collaboration between
Zionists and antisemitic people. Event the founder of the
Zionist movement to establish a ‘Jewish state’, Theodor
Herzl, was guilty of it:

[A]s the Austro-Hungarian writer Theodor Herzl was about to
publish his manifesto The Jewish State in February 1896, he
faced intense pressure from Vienna’s Jewish community to
halt publication. Herzl rejected the pleas, published the
book, and launched a movement that ultimately led to the
establishment of modern Israel. Around the same time, the
residents of Vienna elected an anti-Semitic mayor. To the
relief of Vienna’s Jews, the emperor refused to approve Karl
Lueger, but Herzl lobbied the prime minister to accept the
people’s choice, arguing that boycotting the populist leader
would only increase hatred of Jews.

Herzl had hoped that the installment of an anti-semitic
mayor would push more Jews in Vienna towards supporting his
idea of a ‘Jewish state’.

Israel’s arming of fascist militia in Ukraine may well have
a similar motive:

Israel is keen on bringing in Ukrainian Jewish refugees for
the purpose of maintaining Jewish demographic “supremacy”
over the Palestinian population, academics and analysts say.

Since the outbreak of the war with Russia on February 24,
the Israeli government has called on Ukrainian Jewish
refugees to immigrate to Israel and removed bureaucratic
hurdles to secure their arrival as quickly as possible.

“We call on the Jews of Ukraine to immigrate to Israel –
your home,” Israel’s Ministry of Immigration and Absorption
said in a statement on February 26.

Does that also explain why Igor Kolomoiski, the Ukrainian
Jewish oligarch who lives in Israel, has financed the Azov
battalion and other fascist militia in Ukraine?

Source

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html