6 Millionen HolohoaxFrage
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Subject: 6 Million HolohoaxFrage?
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Subject Re THE 6 MILLION HOLOHOAX
It seems that some of the jews, and their lackeys, just
do not want people to THINK
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 175622 +0000, ASMarques asm...@mail.telepac.pt
wrote
THE 6 MILLION CABALISTIC FIGURE
The so-called Holocaust of 6 million Jews during the
Second World War is a durable and pernicious myth.
Its more than that - its also a modern genuinely
superstitious taboo for the intellectually challenged,
the most successful and cynical historical hoax for
power and money ever devised, and the worst menace to
intellectual liberty and freedom of speech under the
present pervasive cargo cult of nominal Human Rights
that allow governments to suppress both Truth and
Right, under the pretence of caring for so-called
oppressed weak minorities that cannot stand being
offended by the open debate of religious belief.
The 6 million figure for the Jewish victims of the
Holocaust was born out of war propaganda and religious
need, with no statistical study at all being done, it
was promoted as a dogma after the Nuremberg trials,
it contradicts important population data, it was never
verified, and any attempt at investigating it in a
scientific way was and is reacted to as an attack
on a religious dogma. The problem is difficult to
present in its entirety, but in its general lines
is as follows.
1 Statistics and census for Jewish populations living
in each country are difficult to take and present
enormous variations, since Jewish,not being a purely
national, cultural, religious or ethnic group
classification, is nevertheless a mixture of all of
those. To try to count with any semblance of precision
the Jewish population of countries where Jews exist
in great numbers is like trying to catch quicksilver.
2 Figures are falsified with a view to increase the
victimisation. For example, the figures in the World
Almanach from the American Jewish Committee and the
Jewish Statistical Bureau of the Synagogue Council of
America showed in 1941, for the year 1939, an European
population of 8.939.608 Jews, and a World population
of 15.748.091.
But in 1949, the same source in the same publication,
showed for the same year of 1939, for Europe 9.739.200,
and for the World 16.643.120.
That is, in 1949, 800.000 more Jews for the Europe of
1939 and 955.000 more Jews for the World are suddenly
discovered to have been forgotten in the previous counts.
No explanation for this is furnished.
Think about it
In 1941 population for 1939 is given as 8.939.608
In 1949 population for 1939 is given as 9.739.200
A sudden retroactive 8 % rise of the previous number of
Jews in Europe for 1939 Why? What for?
The 1941 statistic cited above, gave for 1933 the number
of 9.494.363 Jews in Europe, which implies the notion
that at least 555.000 Jews had left Europe between 1933
and 1939, before any internment or extermination, i.e.
that a mass emigration out of Europe was already
taking place.
3 This emigration continued in an even larger scale
after 1945, and its certain that under the auspices
of the U.N.R.R.A. great numbers of Jews left Europe,
without being classified as Jews. A great deal is
made out of the fact that the Jewish population of
Poland dropped enormously during the War, but this
is hardly news, since the German deportation of
Polish Jews to the East was very thorough and the
return of uprooted deportees to their ruined Eastern
European dwelling places, back to strongly anti-semitic
environments among such upheavals and mass
dislocations as the War provoked, would have been
very surprising.
A typical recent example of this nameless emigration
taking place even before the War, is the case of U.S.
Secretary of State Madeline Allbrights own parents
after a journalistic investigation, she suddenly
discovered that her parents which had come from
Czechoslovakia to the U.S.A. were in fact Czech Jews
and her grandparents had died at Auschwitz the media dixit.
Newsweek 17 Feb., 1997 calls this an extraordinary piece
of personal news and a late-in-life revelation. Those
who will believe her parents had kept their being Jewish
a secret even to their own daughter are welcome to do so,
but anyway the fact that Mrs. Allbrights family would not
be on record as being Jewish in any statistics at all is
the relevant part of the story. Please note the same magazine
issue has editorials by other emigrants children who say
they were equally surprised when they discovered their
Jewish origin. They say people have been having similar
experiences for the last decade or so, and those readers
more familiar with probability calculation will admit
that maybe, just maybe, the Secretary of States parents
were not the only ones to have hidden their origin for
their entire lives in their country of adoption, even
though some doubts relative to their ability to keep
this esoteric knowledge from their own sons and daughters
will be quiteunderstandable...
4 The amazing calculations Holocaust scholars do, trying
to get numbers as near the mandatory 6 million or so as
possible, are nonsense stemming from the need to accommodate
an a-priori fictional number of victims with any possible
reality allowing for it, by calculating railroad schedules
and movements, numbers of standing individuals per square
inch in each imaginary gas chamber, numbers of magical
cremations per minute, etc. The result is a jungle of
contradictions in which everything is allowed but from
which nothing at all comes with any degree of probability,
much less certainty. They might as well count the
proverbial angels dancing on the pinhead.
The Encyclopaedia Britannica for 1957, for instance, says
about 2 million people, Jewish for the major part, were
exterminated between 1941 and 1945 in Mauthausen vol. 10,
p. 288, but the 1986 edition, says out of the probable
355.000 inmates passing through Mauthausen and its satellites,
more than 122.000 died from execution or privation.
On the other hand, the same 1986 edition, attributes, with
all the appearance of great precision, to the small transit
camp of Sobibor -- about which next to nothing is known with
good reason except that it functioned for 16 months -- 250.000
killed in five gas chambers. No more, no less, but it still
manages to assert categorically that only
about thirty people escaped...
These are in no way occasional isolated errors. Glaring
contradictions and nonsensical estimates out of the blue
are indeed the rule in every one of the most serious sources,
at least as much as in the popular literature by true or false
survivors. Every new effort on the part of Holocaust scholars
-- a new priesthood class for a new religion --
tends to dissimulate this very fact at the core of every
revisionist doubt, instead of helping to clear up the
confusion and pointing out the inconsistencies, with a
view to establish where the historical truth lies.
Where silence, dissimulation and cover-up, rather than
exposure and discussion, are the practice, censorship
and liberticide repressive laws will be the result.
This too can be seen, most notably in the European
Union countries, Switzerland, Canada and other
unfortunate places where no guarantee similar to the
American 1st Amendment remotely exists, and a strange
cargo cult of Human Rights makes it possible for fines
and prison sentences to be imposed on historical investigators,
whenever a privileged minority resents the truth as
undesirable to its purposes and activates the pervasive
anti-hate orwellian laws.
Hate speech hasbecome a true newspeak neologism meaning
speaking the truth on unpopular topics, anti-semite now
means little more than someone who is hated by Jews, and
neo-Nazi is frequently used to point out anyone
who thinks Nazism is dead and gone for good.
As the Canadian Human Rights tribunal put it during the
most recent instalment of the decades-long persecution
of German Canadian citizen Ernst Zundel
"Truth constitutes no defence."
The same could be said to all those who have been censored,
persecuted and jailed in France on incorrect historiography
grounds thanks to the historically unprecedented Fabius-Gayssot
law, like Robert Faurisson,Pierre Guillaume, Vincent Reynouard
or muslim author Roger Garaudy.
Hardly news either for Juergen Graf, imprisoned in the
cuckoo-clock Confederation in spite of all the local
Wilhelm Tells freedom loving nursery tales for grown-ups,
or Pedro Varela, jailed for five years on account of
selling books that doubted the Holocaust in Spain, a
crime equivalent to genocide or the more than 8.000
political prisoners guilty of holding revisionist
opinions in anti-nazi Germany where human rights
worship requires jailing humans for crimespeak with
the help of laws dating from the Nazi era.
5 Auschwitz, the factory of death where the bulk of the
so-called Holocaust racial extermination has been placed
for decades, is, as should have been expected, the acme
of the numerical pandemonium, and this heart of the
Holocaust legend is truly emblematic of the whole
hoax. It was 4.000.000 dead according to the camp
monument in front of which Catholic Popes and German
Chancellors crawled on all four, but recently that
was changed to 1.500.000 and please dont ask why.
Is it really that simple?
Here is a series of figures for Auschwitz, compiled
by Robert Faurisson,just to let you feel how interestingly
diverse total ignorance can be.
Please check up the precise sources and important notes at
http//members.aol.com/ihrgreg/misc/auschwitz_deaths.html
9,000,000 persons according to the documentary film
Nuit et Brouillard (Night and Fog),1955, whose historical
advisers were the historian Henri Michel and the
woman historian Olga Wormser-Migot
8,000,000 persons according to the French War Crime
Research Office and the French War
Crime Information Service 1945
7,000,000 persons according to RaphaŮl Feigelson 1945
6,000,000 Jews according to TibŢre Kremer, writer of a
foreword for Miklos Nyiszli1951
5,000,000 to 5,500,000 persons
according to Bernard Czardybon 1945, according to
confessions attributed to some SS members and according
to the newspaper Le Monde 1978, which was adding of
whom 90% of Jews
4,500,000 persons
according to Henryk Mandelbaum 1945
4,000,000 persons
according to a Soviet document of which the Nuremberg
tribunal took judicial notice. This figure was inscribed
nineteen times, with a commentary in as many different
languages, on the Auschwitz-Birkenau monument.
It was repeated by a sizable number of persons, including
the Polish historian Franciszek Piper.
It was to be declared false in 1990 and replaced, on the
monument, in 1995, by the figure of 1,500,000 with
the concurrence of the same F. Piper for whom this figure
is a maximum while the minimum figure is of 1,100,000.
According to Miriam Novitch 1967, of the 4,000,000 dead,
2,700,000 were Jewish. According to Rabbi Moshe Weiss 1991,
more than 4,000,000 persons died at Auchwitz, of
whom 3,000,000 were Jews
3,500,000 persons
according to the Dictionnaire de la langue franţaise
published by Hachette 1991. According to Claude Lanzmann 1980,
there were 3,500,000 gassed of whom 95% of Jews as well as
many other deaths
3,000,000 persons
until December 1st, 1943, according to a confession extorted
from Rudolf H÷ss, ex-Commander of Auschwitz
3,000,000 Jews gassed
according to David Susskind 1986 and according to Heritage,
the mostimportant Californian Jewish weekly 1993
2,500,000 persons
according to Rudolf Vrba for the Eichmann trial 1961
2,000,000 ? to 4,000,000 ?
according to the historian Yehuda Bauer 1982
2,000,000 to 3,000,000 Jews killed as well as thousands of
non-Jews according to a confession attributed to an SS in
charge, Pery Broad
2,000,000 to 2,500,000 persons killed
according to a confession attributed to an SS physician,
Dr. Friedrich Entress 1945
2,000,000 persons
according to the historian LÚon Poliakov 1951 according to
the historian Georges Wellers 1973 and according to the
woman historian Lucy Davidowicz 1975
1,600,000 persons
according to the historian Yehuda Bauer 1989, of whom 1,352,980
Jews
the latter figure is from Georges Wellers, 1983
1,500,000 persons
this figure, chosen by Lech Walesa, replaced, in 1995, on the
Birkenau monument, that of 4,000,000 which had been withdrawn
in 1990
1,471,595 persons
of whom 1,352,980 Jews, according to the historian
Georges Wellers 1983
1,250,000 persons or so
of whom 1,000,000 Jews killed and more than 250,000
non-Jews dead, according to the historian Raul Hilberg
1,100,000 to 1,500,000 persons
according to the historians Yisrael Gutman, Michael Berenbaum
and Franciszek Piper 1994
1,000,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac 1989 and according to the
Dictionnaire des noms propres published by Hachette 1992
800,000 to 900,000 persons
according to the historian Gerald Reitlinger 1953
775,000 to 800,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac 1993, of whom 630,000
were Jews gassed
630,000 to 710,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac 1994, of whom from
470,000 to 550,000 were Jews gassed
Please note that although in his spontaneous confession
with the help of alcohol and the whip, as he himself put
it camp Commandant Rudolf Hoess, the so-called proud
technician, claimed 3.000.000, few
apparently take notice or believe him...
And we therefore reach the last generation of figures no
pun intended with Jean-Claude Pressac who pointed out a
figure of 775.000 in 1993.
However, he lowered the total number to 630.000 victims --
only 470.000 to 550.000 of which Jews -- in 1994, on a
particularly nice day when the sun shone and the little
birds sang in his garden, and some other
scholars apparently stopped talking to him.
Of course, as soon as 08.01.1948, Welt im Film British
newsreel, nbr. 137 indicated 300.000, but more recently
it was revealed that the mortuary books Sterbebłcher
which had been kept during the war by the Auschwitz camp
authorities exist at least from 27.07.1941 to 31.12.1943.
Since the camp was opened 20.05.1940 and evacuated 18.01.1945,
that period represents a little more than half the duration
of the camps existence under German authority. The books,
as released after more than 40 years, thanks in part to
the Zundel trials of 1985 and 1988, appear
to include approximately 69,000 names.
How about the International Red Cross archives at Arolsen,
always closed to revisionists? Can the archives of an
organisation like the IRC be trusted, since neither
individual scholars nor the media even appear
to know what they are talking about? Here is the
figure then 17.08.1994
-- International Red Cross at Arolsen 66.206
Dept. of Holocaust investigations Ref. nbr 10824
Could this be nearer the truth than the figures involving
millions for Auschwitz alone?
After all, the gas chamber of Auschwitz-I has been acknowledged
by the Auschwitz Museum curator and the French paper Le Monde
everything is false about it to have been rebuilt after the
War by the Soviets.
What for, you ask? Well, for educational purposes, of course.
The same as Dachau near Munich and Natzviler near Strasbourg
where tourists are still shown the gas chambers of the
Nuremberg trial era as the main attractions of the respective
concentration camp luna-parks, complete with their faked
showerheads, in spite of their acknowledged non-existence
ever since the gas chambers collectively migrated to
far-away Poland...
As for the gas chambers of Auschwitz-II i.e. Birkenau, they
were simply the morgues Leichenkeller of the crematory buildings,
identified as such in every document since the construction
blueprints themselves, and clean of residual cyanide compounds
-- unlike the real non-homicidal gas chambers which clearly
show the residual vestiges of the systematic anti-typhus
delousing of clothes and other materials with Zyklon B, the
commercial cyanide-based pesticide widely used not only in
every camp to decrease the risk of epidemics in the pre-DDT
days, but also in military barracks and industrial facilities
ever since the 1920s and still with us today through normal
over-the-counter sale.
Youll find the story of the successive analysis and testing
of the gas-chambers under the designations of Leuchter, Rudolf
and Lłftl Reports through a fast search of the web. More related
information will be found by searching for Zundel trial.
So, which is it? Is it 9.000.000? Is it 66.206? Is it
something in between? Is the matter totally irrelevant
to the 6 million total?
Is the gas chamber Holocaust a sinister joke played on us?
The answer to the last question is an easy one and it should
constitute good news to everyone concerned. Yes, you may
rejoice for the homicidal gas chambers are nothing more
than a sinister joke.
6 In spite of all the unbelievable fluctuations, the magical
figure of 6 million is kept ever since Nuremberg, as if its
calculation didn't depend on any detailed study or any final
sum of known partial figures, and its religious character
has increased since then. Once one understands there is
absolutely no global statistic or detailed study behind
its permanent untouchable status since 1945, one can only
attribute a symbolic anti-historical character to the
6 million dead and the 6 extermination camps. The reason
for the number has everything to do with the religion of
the 6-pointed star and its traditional propensity for
numerical cabalisms, and nothing at all with any
objective investigation.
Here is one instance of the 6 million figure from 1919
http//members.aol.com/ihrgreg/documents/191031crucifixion.html
7 As for the revisionist numbers -- the only ones born of
basic data instead of religious mumbo-jumbo -- they are
somewhat different and much more consistent. The only
meticulous and detailed study, from the viewpoint of
population statistics, ever done and using Jewish
originated data -- The Dissolution of Eastern European
Jewry by Walter Sanning -- estimates in 3.500.000 the
total number of Jews in the German sphere of influence
for the duration of the War, and in 2.400.000 the number
of Jews alive at the end of the War in the countries
previously occupied by Germany with the exclusion of the
USSR.
His conclusions are confirmed by Carl Nordling -- a Finnish
demographer, using statistical inference methods applied to
samples of known individual histories -- and place the
total of Jewish victims of the concentration camps at
between 300.000 and 600.000.
Sannings study was never contested with data of an
equally statistical nature.
8 Working, on the other hand, from various sources including
mainly the secret reports of Richard Korherr who had the
post of Inspector of Statistics for the Reichsfuehrer-SS
to Himmler on the Jewish deportations, Stephen Challen
reaches the following numbers
1.200.000 Jews dead in the whole of Europe during the War,
450.000 of whom in parts of European Russia not occupied
by the Germans, and 750.000 in the area of German direct
or indirect responsibility.
Of 2.300.000 deported Jews, 360.000 died, and a total of
200.000 died in the concentration camps.
He estimates the Jewish losses heavy and, in proportion,
comparable to the German or Soviet ones, but no more than
about 20 % of what is usually believed.
9 Robert Faurisson -- the best known French revisionist
investigator -- tentatively puts the figures as a probable
number in the order of 1.000.000 dead for the Jewish total
of War victims in the order of the hundreds of thousands
if we dont count the Jews fighting in the Allied armies,
and a number between 200.000 and 360.000 for the total of
all dead in the concentration camps from 1934 to 1945.
10 The true numbers of the Holocaust on the order of the
hundreds of thousands are reconcilable with the terrible
results of the most cruel War ever fought, including the
tragedies of the concentration and labour camps where
many died from epidemics and a wide variety of war related
causes -- but not with the myth of deliberate racial extermination.
Why keeping the labour camps full of walking skeletons supposedly
starved on purpose and quite unable to work, and why provoking or
allowing epidemics that would put in risk the lives of the SS
personnel themselves? Obviously those images in the public mind,
arising from the unwarranted and uncontrollable conditions at the
camp
of Bergen-Belsen in 1945, were uncalled for results of a
catastrophic War, not extermination by design.
And the 6 million cabalistic number is no more than a pious myth.
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