PMI Gunss Suck, New Gun Dead Out of the Box
Mark Hooks
leak. I lost most of my gas charge in a matter of seconds. I even read the
manual and followed the instructions before messing with it. Doesn't PMI
bother to test their product before they ship it? They don't even bother to
answer the phone on weekends when most people need help. Next time you're
thinking about buying a PMI product, run the other way as fast as you can.
Mark Hooks
David Gray
Hooks" <mark...@earthlink.net> wrote:
WTF?
No wonder everyone is having to wait for their game from PMI :-/
I didn't know that Pinball Manufacturing, Inc. was making paintball guns?
I thought that they were incorporated only to manufacture BBB ;-)
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Carl Witthoft
I can only chuckle at the description of a *gun* as "dead out of the
box."
BEEFJERKYHUNTER
HMMM
what i'd do is send it back
it should be still under warrenty
especiialy if you got it fresh from the box
and saying against testing product before sending, it wouldn't be new
if they tested it first
so then people would complain
it's just the way our world goes....
but still, call them up, and then send it back and they should replace
it or fix whatever is wrong with it
someoth...@yahoo.com
Sounds more like an operator problem to me.
BaaL
> I just picked up a new PMI paintball gun for my son and it has an internal
> leak. I lost most of my gas charge in a matter of seconds. I even read
> the manual and followed the instructions before messing with it.
I didn't know pmi makes markers?!?
anyways, what kind of a marker is it (blowabck, cocker?!?!), did you check
all the orings, lube the gun properly, cock it before airing up, maybe the
cupseal needs time to sit in properly ?!?!?
Doesn't
> PMI bother to test their product before they ship it?
Noone does that... some retailers lube and check markers before shiping ,but
not all of them
They don't even
> bother to answer the phone on weekends when most people need help.
Coincidentialy, like you they're probably at home on weekends... as in not
working because it is weekend.
Next
> time you're thinking about buying a PMI product, run the other way as
> fast as you can.
PMI isn't "top notch", but has decent products and is a very well establised
company in the paintball market, so don't mind if i don't take advice from a
person who
a) obviously knows very little about markers
b) makes his judgement on a huge company based on purchasing one product
wich is probably malfunctioning because of, either poor storage/transport,
user error, or just has a manufacturing flaw... you know these things DO
happen!!!
c) needs to take a chill pill ;-)
easy there big fella'.... just because you got a broken marker it doesn't
mean that it's PMIs fault... call them up (or the store where you bought it)
explain the situation... if it's really broken im sure they'll be more than
happy to send you a new one.
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers ;-)
--
Always outnumber your audience in case they beat you up after the gig
and nick your equipment.
BEEFJERKYHUNTER
LCT Paintball
> I didn't know pmi makes markers?!?
> anyways, what kind of a marker is it (blowabck, cocker?!?!), did you check
> all the orings, lube the gun properly, cock it before airing up, maybe the
> cupseal needs time to sit in properly ?!?!?
Piranhas are made by PMI
BEEFJERKYHUNTER
BEEFJERKYHUNTER
just not the best
BaaL
uuuuh.... damn, can't believe I forgot that... whenever someone mentiones a
piranha it's just that, never pmi piranha, so i didn't "connect the dots"
right away ;-)
dan martin
or a cup seal, Learn to fix fix things *DAD*. Or take it back to where you
bought it and exchange it.
As for not being open on wekends, they are in the MANUFACTURING business.
The have familes too and like to see them once in a while.
PMI , in MNSHO make great beginner markers, I;ve owned one few few years
now and it is still one of my favorites.
Dan
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DGDevin
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>I just picked up a new PMI paintball gun for my son and it has an internal
You didn't ask the store to test the gun before you left? Where did you buy
it, Wal-Mart? Oh wait, I know, you bought it online to save a few bucks,
well that's a lesson learned, isn't it.
And do you seriously expect them to staff the phones on weekends just for
clueless customers? And what were they supposed to do for you, explain how
to take apart the gun and fix it over the phone?
What a whiner.
Sniper .308
<gamesh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>they're not bad guns
>just not the best
They are a hell of a lot better than that 5th rate shit Walmart
pedals.
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>You didn't ask the store to test the gun before you left?
1. Name a common retail store that lets you that.
> Where did you buy it, Wal-Mart?
2. Wal-mart does not sell PMI markers. They sell 5th rate shit.
> Oh wait, I know, you bought it online to save a few bucks,
>well that's a lesson learned, isn't it.
3. Like all my friends, I bought all my markers online. Not one
problem in 25
>And do you seriously expect them to staff the phones on weekends just for
>clueless customers?
4. That's their job
> And what were they supposed to do for you, explain how
>to take apart the gun and fix it over the phone?
4b. That's their Job
>
>What a whiner.
You normally such an asshole? Or do you actually think you are
impressing anybody, not including yourself. If you have nothing
useful to say shut the fuck up.
Jesse Felt
Sniper .308 wrote:
> They are a hell of a lot better than that 5th rate shit Walmart
> pedals.
yeah like tipmans and kingmans right?
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>yeah like tipmans and kingmans right?
Funny I have NEVER seen a Tipman at Wal-mart, ever
Jesse Felt
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2381689
And I also guess that JT makes 5th rate masks? And among non-agi
loaders those darn VL200s are just trash..
You DO have one thing right though.. paint from walmart is indeed horrific.
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>you want me to take a picture of it? or howabout...
>http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2381689
Interesting, the Wal-mart where I live only pedals shit markers.
>
>
>And I also guess that JT makes 5th rate masks?
JTs are ok
> And among non-agi loaders those darn VL200s are just trash..
They break pretty easy
BEEFJERKYHUNTER
DGDevin
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>
>>You didn't ask the store to test the gun before you left?
>
> 1. Name a common retail store that lets you that.
If a paintball shop won't let you put air into a gun you're about to buy to
make sure everything works properly, turn around and leave. Every paintball
shop I've ever dealt with going back to 1986 has done so, have I just been
lucky?
>> Where did you buy it, Wal-Mart?
>
> 2. Wal-mart does not sell PMI markers. They sell 5th rate shit.
They sell Kingman and JT, is that "5th rate shit" in your ignorant opinion?
>> Oh wait, I know, you bought it online to save a few bucks,
>>well that's a lesson learned, isn't it.
>
> 3. Like all my friends, I bought all my markers online. Not one
> problem in 25
Oh, you're one of those guys who buys gun after gun in search of one that
will turn you into a good player, yeah, there's quite a few of you around
these days.
>>And do you seriously expect them to staff the phones on weekends just for
>>clueless customers?
>
> 4. That's their job
Right, nobody else does it, but a paintgun company should, because Lord
Knows there are certainly some clueless customers out there, aren't there,
"Sniper."
>> And what were they supposed to do for you, explain how
>>to take apart the gun and fix it over the phone?
>
> 4b. That's their Job
Anybody who can't fix any leak in any gun PMI makes is too dumb to be
allowed to use tools, rocket science this ain't.
>>What a whiner.
>
> You normally such an asshole? Or do you actually think you are
> impressing anybody, not including yourself. If you have nothing
> useful to say shut the fuck up.
I am normally such an asshole, and you're a potty-mouth punk, so? But then
the "Sniper .308" screen name should have tipped us off that you aren't one
of the grownups.
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>> 1. Name a common retail store that lets you that.
>
>If a paintball shop won't let you put air into a gun you're about to buy to
>make sure everything works properly, turn around and leave. Every paintball
>shop I've ever dealt with going back to 1986 has done so, have I just been
>lucky?
Are you stupid or illiterate? I said "Name a common retail store that
lets you do that."
>
>>> Where did you buy it, Wal-Mart?
>>
>> 2. Wal-mart does not sell PMI markers. They sell 5th rate shit.
>
>They sell Kingman and JT, is that "5th rate shit" in your ignorant opinion?
It appears I covered this in my comment to "Jesse Felt" a few days
ago, so once again, are you stupid or illiterate? or just too fucking
lazy to read the whole thread?.
>Oh, you're one of those guys who buys gun after gun in search of one that
>will turn you into a good player, yeah, there's quite a few of you around
>these days.
Sorry to disappoint you dipshit, but I play pump mostly and have one
semi-auto. I could kick your ass with ether.
>>>And do you seriously expect them to staff the phones on weekends just for
>>>clueless customers?
>>
>> 4. That's their job
>
>Right, nobody else does it, but a paintgun company should, because Lord
>Knows there are certainly some clueless customers out there, aren't there,
>"Sniper."
REALLY? I know LOTS of companies that do do that. Looks like the
answer to my question is quickly narrowing down to you just being
stupid and lazy.
>>> And what were they supposed to do for you, explain how
>>>to take apart the gun and fix it over the phone?
>>
>> 4b. That's their Job
>
>Anybody who can't fix any leak in any gun PMI makes is too dumb to be
>allowed to use tools, rocket science this ain't.
WOW you actually said something intelligent, I am impressed
>>>What a whiner.
>>
>> You normally such an asshole? Or do you actually think you are
>> impressing anybody, not including yourself. If you have nothing
>> useful to say shut the fuck up.
>
>I am normally such an asshole
Don't forget, stupid, lazy, and illiterate.
>and you're a potty-mouth punk, so?
Only when dealing with arrogant assholes like, oh, you!
>But then the "Sniper .308" screen name should have tipped us off that you aren't one
>of the grownups.
I bet I am older than you shit stain, and the name is there for a
reason an arrogant, stupid, lazy, illiterate asshole like you would
never be able to comprehend.
Have a nice day!
Jesse Felt
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Envelope please... And the "greatset sign of a troll" award goes to???
>
Yer wrong, but thanks anyway.
CraigC -Chicago-
kind now.
-c
Jesse Felt
"I'm the =baddest paintballllllaaaahhhhhh!!!"
give me a break, you know that the PMIU was your first marker ever! :p
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>care to explain? lol
A troll deliberately starts fights for his/her own entertainment. I
don't, if I am insulted I retaliate... I don't walk away.
>"I'm the =baddest paintballllllaaaahhhhhh!!!"
I have never made a comment like this.
>give me a break, you know that the PMIU was your first marker ever! :p
You are right, and I still use it from time to time. It's fun
watching those "spay and pray" players pout when I take them and their
"fires 3,000 balls per second" markers out with a shot between the
eyes.
Jesse Felt
Jesse Felt
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>hmm so you havent bought 25 markers then?
>
Are you totally fucking retarded? Yes I have bought them.
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>So you haven't owned 25 markers then?
Jesse Jesse Jesse, are you that desperate for attention that you need
to post the same non-sense horse shit reply TWICE. Any you claim to
be "sitting@thefeetofjesus" what a fucking hypocrite!.
Jesse Felt
or have you bought 25 markers?
seriously, you post some stupid rant on the group about a campany that
has been in paintball almost since the beginning and how they suck sooo
bad because you can't manage work the marker and then start bragging
about how you can kick peoples buts with either a pump of a semi
(notation: you mention that you only own 1 semi at that point... so I
assume that 24 of the 25 markers you mention owning are pumps?) what do
you expect to happen? you are a troll, and you will be treated like
one. Don't be so suprised.
and btw, have you ever heard of a network error? You know double
posting something is not the end of the world lol.
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>hey wow, you can count!
More than what I can say for you.
>or have you bought 25 markers?
Duh!
>
>seriously, you post some stupid rant on the group about a campany that
>has been in paintball almost since the beginning and how they suck sooo
>bad because you can't manage work the marker
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! I never said that, jesus h
christ you are fucking stupid.
> and then start bragging about how you can kick peoples buts with eithe
>r a pump of a semi (notation: you mention that you only own 1 semi at that point
No I didn't shit for brains.
>... so I assume that 24 of the 25 markers you mention owning are pumps?)
I assume you have a problem with counting
>you are a troll, and you will be treated like
>one. Don't be so suprised.
Once again you dumb fuck, a troll starts a fight. I didn't start
anything, you decided to jump in and add your two cents. No one was
addressing you. As for your puffed up chest bullshit... I am not the
least bit concerned about a retarded fucking peon like you. If I get
sick of your ceaseless trolling I just add you to a kill filter and
presto problem solved.
>and btw, have you ever heard of a network error? You know double
>posting something is not the end of the world lol.
It is to you, you seemed pretty concerned about getting your next pile
of troll shit out. "sitting@thefeetofjesus" what a joke.
Jeff Goslin
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> and btw, have you ever heard of a network error? You know double
> posting something is not the end of the world lol.
They were two distinct message. You physically posted twice, there was no
network error.
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It's not a god complex when you're always right
EDTHEWARD
bullshit.
now I can read the posts in peace......
if anybody has anything worthwile to say, email ayar with your request, he
in turn will email me, I will then email ayar with the approval, he will
email back the approved wothwhile post permission,, I will un-killfile said
poster with something worthwhile to say, read the post then killfile them
again.
please feel free to make requests.
email ayar at ay...@paintballbullshit.com
"Jeff Goslin" <aut...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Sniper .308
>I just killfiled everyone in this ENTIRE newsgroup to filter out the
>bullshit.
>
>now I can read the posts in peace......
>
>if anybody has anything worthwile to say, email ayar with your request, he
>in turn will email me, I will then email ayar with the approval, he will
>email back the approved wothwhile post permission,, I will un-killfile said
>poster with something worthwhile to say, read the post then killfile them
>again.
>
>please feel free to make requests.
>
>email ayar at ay...@paintballbullshit.com
ROTFLMAO!!!!! Good one
Jesse Felt
brain lol
a network error cause me to think that the original post had not gone
through, understand that zippy?
btw, before you get all into a tizzy, I'm just playin with ya... I got
nothin wrong with you
Jesse Felt
one message you mention owning 25 markers, in another you say that the
PMI was your first marker, in yet another one you mention owning only 1
semiauto and the rest are pumps... so which story is the right one spanky?
you need to pay attention to your stuff before you start making a fool
of yourself.
Jeff Goslin
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> I just killfiled everyone in this ENTIRE newsgroup to filter out the
> bullshit.
>
> now I can read the posts in peace......
>
> if anybody has anything worthwile to say, email ayar with your request, he
> in turn will email me, I will then email ayar with the approval, he will
> email back the approved wothwhile post permission,, I will un-killfile
said
> poster with something worthwhile to say, read the post then killfile them
> again.
>
> please feel free to make requests.
Ro... nin...? Is that... you...???
Jeff Goslin
> okay, well obviously I need to explain since the fat has poluted your
> brain lol
>
> a network error cause me to think that the original post had not gone
> through, understand that zippy?
So, you'd rather be thought of as actively stupid rather than just plain
incompetant? That's an interesting choice.
Personally, I'd choose to go the "oops" route, rather than the "retard"
route, but hey, that's just me...
> btw, before you get all into a tizzy, I'm just playin with ya... I got
> nothin wrong with you
Oh hell no. You don't get off that easy. You awoken the giant, now he gets
to step on you, you no longer have a choice in the matter. ;)
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Okay, do I actually need to go back and copy your prigianl messages?
> In one message you mention owning 25 markers,
Total over the years, Correct
> in another you say that the PMI was your first marker,
Also Correct
> in yet another one you mention owning only 1 semiauto and
>the rest are pumps...
I never said ANYTHING OF THE SORT you illiterate fuck stain.
I said I own one, that does not mean it is the only one I have ever
purchased. Jesus you are stupid.
>you need to pay attention to your stuff before you start making a fool
>of yourself.
The ONLY ONE making a fool out themselves is YOU!
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Okay, do I actually need to go back and copy your prigianl messages?
> In one message you mention owning 25 markers,
Total over the years, Correct
> in another you say that the PMI was your first marker,
Also Correct
Actually now that I think about it, my first marker was a bolt action
thing from the 80's I think, can't remember the name of it. My first
Semi was a PMI.
> in yet another one you mention owning only 1 semiauto and
>the rest are pumps...
I never said ANYTHING OF THE SORT you illiterate fuck stain.
I said I own one, that does not mean it is the only one I have ever
purchased. Jesus you are stupid.
>you need to pay attention to your stuff before you start making a fool
>of yourself.
The ONLY ONE making a fool out themselves is YOU!
Jesse Felt
Jesse Felt
with
Are you sure you didn't just hear it on a movie?
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Wow this comment must have taken a whole gram of gray matter to come up
>with Are you sure you didn't just hear it on a movie?
Waz the matter, pouting after all your bullshit Trolling has fallen
apart?. "sitting@thefeetofjesus" should read "floating in the bowl
under Jesus's @ss" That is more appropriate for you, you piece of shit
troll. And guess what, everybody now knows it.
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Wow this comment must have taken a whole gram of gray matter
I know, I know, you are jealous are you Mr. Floating in the bowl under
Jesus's @ss. Because we both know that the 1 gram of gray matter I
used is 10 times more than what you have ever had at any point in
time.
Sniper .308
<sit...@thefeetofjesus.com> wrote:
>Bring it tubby :p haha
You could not ask for any more clearer evidence that this loser is a
troll, and I am going to enjoy watching Jeff smear his ass.
Jeff Goslin
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Eh, I think I'll leave this one to flounder and look moronic all by his
lonesome. Plus which, I don't really feel like spending the time that I
would feel necessary to do the job right, it just isn't worth it, not for
"bring it tubby". ;)
Jesse Felt
whats the matter not get enough sleep last night? I was really looking
forward to this too... oh well theres a whole internet out there to get
my laughs from :)
Jesse Felt
DGDevin
> I bet I am older than you shit stain, and the name is there for a
> reason an arrogant, stupid, lazy, illiterate asshole like you would
> never be able to comprehend.
>
>
> Have a nice day!
Like I said, a potty-mouthed punk, and it doesn't matter how old you are.
And I've spent some time in the company of snipers, real ones as opposed to
online ones, you can tell them the same way you can I.D. most combat vets,
they don't blab it around like teenagers trying to sound impressive.
DGDevin
>
> A troll deliberately starts fights for his/her own entertainment. I
> don't, if I am insulted I retaliate... I don't walk away.
Let's see, you jumped into a thread to throw potty-mouth insults at someone
who hadn't addressed so much as a word to you, but you're not a troll,
right.
Jeff Goslin
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> Like I said, a potty-mouthed punk, and it doesn't matter how old you are.
> And I've spent some time in the company of snipers, real ones as opposed
to
> online ones, you can tell them the same way you can I.D. most combat vets,
> they don't blab it around like teenagers trying to sound impressive.
God *DAMN*, you have got that whole "crotchety old man" thing just DOWN, eh?
Wait, is that like the paintball way of saying "I know PLENTY of black
people"??
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>This "Sniper" clown is trying to sound like he's Mr. Hundred Confirmed Kills
>in the 'Nam,
Said nothing of the sort. You really are an idiot.
> along with the potty-mouth crap it marks him as a poseur
Got any proof, no, didn't think so, idiot.
>, and combined with his Troll-Central ISP
Got any proof?. No, another fine display of ignorance
> odds are he's flinging feces to get a rise out of people.
Unlike you I have a job, and better things to do with my day.
>This guy has nothing useful to contribute,
Wrong again. Nothing new
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>Let's see, you jumped into a thread to throw potty-mouth insults at someone
>who hadn't addressed so much as a word to you, but you're not a troll,
>right.
By the way, I am still waiting for you to tell me what common retail
outlet allows you to test fire a marker before purchasing it. Since
you decided to sick your nose in (in an insulting manner without
anybody ever addressing you), and seem to think you are all knowing.
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>Let's see, you jumped into a thread to throw potty-mouth insults at someone
>who hadn't addressed so much as a word to you,
Pot calling the kettle black. I don't recall anybody addressing you,
yet you decided to sick your nose in and insult people.
Sniper .308
<dgd...@worldnet.att.invalid> wrote:
>Like I said, a potty-mouthed punk, and it doesn't matter how old you are.
>And I've spent some time in the company of snipers, real ones as opposed to
>online ones, you can tell them the same way you can I.D. most combat vets,
>they don't blab it around like teenagers trying to sound impressive.
I am not trying to impress anybody, I don't need too, especially a
miserable old prick like you. By the way, thanks for showing exactly
how little you actually know about people.
Sniper .308
<aut...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Out of idle curiousity, if you KNOW that's what he's doing, and you
>> disdain it so much, why did you reply?
>
>I replied to him once when his remarks were on topic more or less,
> and after pointing out he's a troll in two brief posts I haven't even
>opened any of his posts much less replied to them.
I guess this idiot can't count past two. Still waiting to hear what
this common retail store is that lets you test the markers is.
Instead he going to run away and hide before he sticks his foot any
further down his throat.
>That's like hitting yourself in the face with a brick and saying
> "I didn't think it would hurt that time. Maybe
> next time...
>You need an editor, Jeff, your attempted analogies simply make no
> sense. "Sniper .308's" potty-mouth chest-thumping didn't cause me
> the least pain, he's a blowhard at best, just a fart in the wind, so
> suggesting that responding to him once is like repeatedly hitting
>oneself with a brick is a very odd way of looking at it.
Ok, run away and hide, save yourself anymore embarrassment
>Admit it Jeff, you actually kind of like this guy, he speaks your language.
You mean intelligent fact based arguments, gee thanks
mad8
> this common retail store is that lets you test the markers is.
any, and i repeat any paintball store.