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Axel Berger

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Oct 3, 2008, 6:28:00 AM10/3/08
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Ich lese jetzt seit Stunden das Manual rauf und runter und finde nichts.

Ich verwende die Colorthemes default und seahorse mit geringen
�nderungen. Was mich st�rt ist die Farbe in den Inhaltsverzeichnissen,
rot oder gr�n (ich bin farbfehlsichtig).
(Die Farbe ist dieselbe wie in den mitgelieferten Beispielen, also
nicht von mir versehentlich verhunzt.)
Die Hervorhebung ist an der Stelle IMHO �berfl�ssig und
verschlechtert die Lesbarkeit. Ich m�chte sie deshalb unter
Beibehaltung des Farbtons deutlich dunkler machen. Ich finde in
beamercolorthemedefault.sty:

\definecolor{beamer@blendedblue}{rgb}{0.2,0.2,0.7} % use structure theme to
change
\setbeamercolor{structure}{fg=beamer@blendedblue}
\setbeamercolor{section in toc}{parent=structure}

Das w�re aber ein Blauton. Wo und wie wird diese Farbe definert?

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Danke
Axel

Ulrike Fischer

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Oct 3, 2008, 8:23:22 AM10/3/08
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Mache ein Minimalbeispiel.

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Jan Torben Heuer

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Oct 3, 2008, 9:20:19 AM10/3/08
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Axel Berger wrote:

> Ich lese jetzt seit Stunden das Manual rauf und runter und finde nichts.

<raten>hyperref umkonfiguriert?</raten>

Jan

Axel Berger

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Oct 3, 2008, 3:40:00 PM10/3/08
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*Ulrike Fischer* wrote on Fri, 08-10-03 14:23:
>Mache ein Minimalbeispiel.

Der Hinweis ist zwar fast immer berechtigt, aber in diesem Fall tr�gt
es m.E. wirklich nichts informatives bei. Au�erdem k�nnen, wie
geschrieben, alle bei Beamer mitgelieferten Beispiell�sungen als
Beispiele f�r meine Frage dienen, denn sie haben alle diese Farbe.

Dennoch, hier ist es:

\documentclass{beamer}

\mode<presentation>
\usecolortheme{seahorse}
\usepackage[cp1252]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

\begin{document}

\begin{frame}{Gliederung}
\tableofcontents
\end{frame}

\section{Vorbemerkungen}
\subsection{Fr�here Arbeiten}
\section{Die Fisher-Skellam-Gleichung}
\subsection{Herleitung}
\subsection{Beweis-/Implementationsideen}

\begin{frame}{�berschriften m�ssen informativ sein.}
Das war's.

Wo und wie wird die gr�ne oder rote oder braune Farbe im
Inhaltsverzeichnis definiert?
\end{frame}

\end{document}

Ulrich M. Schwarz

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Oct 3, 2008, 4:49:46 PM10/3/08
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:40:00 +0200, Axel Berger wrote:

> *Ulrike Fischer* wrote on Fri, 08-10-03 14:23:
>>Mache ein Minimalbeispiel.
>

> Der Hinweis ist zwar fast immer berechtigt, aber in diesem Fall trägt es
> m.E. wirklich nichts informatives bei. Außerdem können, wie geschrieben,
> alle bei Beamer mitgelieferten Beispiellösungen als Beispiele für meine


> Frage dienen, denn sie haben alle diese Farbe.

Hm, da müssen wir uns einig werden, an welchen Stellen was auftritt. Ich
sehe den Hintergurnd der Überschrift lila, "Vorbemerkungen" und "Die
Fisher..." dunkelblau, "Frühere Arbeiten", "Herleitung" und "Beweis..."
schwarz, und die Navigationssymbole blaßlila.

Ulrich

Christian Zietz

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:02:03 AM10/4/08
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Axel Berger schrieb:

> Der Hinweis ist zwar fast immer berechtigt, aber in diesem Fall trägt
> es m.E. wirklich nichts informatives bei. Außerdem können, wie
> geschrieben, alle bei Beamer mitgelieferten Beispiellösungen als
> Beispiele für meine Frage dienen, denn sie haben alle diese Farbe.

Zumindest mit Deinem Minimalbeispiel ist hier (MiKTeX 2.6, auf aktuellem
Stand) nichts rot oder grün.

Christian
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Christian Zietz - CHZ-Soft - czietz (at) gmx.net
WWW: http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/
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Ulrike Fischer

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Oct 4, 2008, 6:28:33 AM10/4/08
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Am Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:40:00 +0200 schrieb Axel Berger:

> *Ulrike Fischer* wrote on Fri, 08-10-03 14:23:
>>Mache ein Minimalbeispiel.
>

> Der Hinweis ist zwar fast immer berechtigt, aber in diesem Fall trägt

> es m.E. wirklich nichts informatives bei.

Nun, zumindest zeigt es, dass irgendwas anderes für dein Farbenproblem
verantwortlich ist -- ich zumindest sehe hier weder rot noch grün noch
braun.

Abgesehen davon: In Beamer ist der Code über viele Dateien verteilt.
Daher braucht man bei Beamer-Problem eigentlich immer ein
Minimalbeispiel. Denn ein Minimalbeispiel liefert eine Logdatei und eine
Logdatei enthält die Pfade der beteiligten Dateien.


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Ulrike Fischer

Axel Berger

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Axel

Axel Berger

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*Ulrich M. Schwarz* wrote on Fri, 08-10-03 22:49:
>Hm, da m?Pilcssen wir uns einig werden, an welchen Stellen was auftritt.
>Ich sehe den Hintergurnd der ?£berschrift lila, "Vorbemerkungen"
>und "Die Fisher..." dunkelblau, "Fr?Pilchere Arbeiten", "Herleitung"
>und "Beweis..." schwarz, und die Navigationssymbole bla?flila.

Ich habe jetzt einmal versucht
beamerexample-conference-talk.tex
aus der Beamerdokumentation zu reproduzieren. Es gelingt nicht. Im
originalen PDF sind Sections blau und Subsections schwarz, bei mir ist
das Verzeichnis nach dem ersten Durchlauf leer und nach dem zweiten
komplett highlighted, also offenbar wohl doch rot.

Ich habe sowohl beamer als auch pgf über den MiKTeX package manager
komplett de- und neu installiert -- keine Änderung. Was mir auffällt
sind zwei Warnungen:

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Hier ist der komplette Logfile:

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Ulrike Fischer

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Am Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:45:00 +0200 schrieb Axel Berger:

> (F:\localtexmf\tex\latex\0A-settings\hyperref.cfg
> Package hyperref Info: Option `colorlinks' set `true' on input line 21.

Tja, wenn du lokale Änderungen hast ...

--
Ulrike Fischer

Axel Berger

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*Axel Berger* wrote on Sat, 08-10-04 14:45:

>Ich habe sowohl beamer als auch pgf über den MiKTeX package manager
>komplett de- und neu installiert -- keine Änderung.

Konnte auch nicht, ich hab's gefunden, und es war, wie so oft, eigene
Blödheit. Der Übeltäter war meine hyperref.cfg. Mit colorlinks=false im
Kopf geht es jetzt. Meines Erachtens ist das ein Designfehler in
Beamer, ähnlich wie das Umstellen der Schriftfarbe aber nicht der
Hintergrundfarbe in schlecht gemachten Websites. Auf vom Default
abweichende Voreinstellungen des Anwenders sollte man IMHO immer
vorbereitet sein.
Da die internen Hyperlinks bei Beamer normalerweise unsichtbar sind,
hatte ich garnicht mit ihrem Vorhandensein gerechnet, sonst wäre der
Groschen schneller gefallen.

Danke für Eure Mühe
Axel

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