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Tabman

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Hi folks.

I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
the icons.


Also, when I play a MPEG in xanim, the MPEG is played in a screwed up way.
It looks almost like playing a 4:2:2 Y'PrPb clip as though it were an RGB
clip. That is to say, the clip is played as though xanim thinks the frames
are larger than they actually are, and that the colourspace is RGB when it's
in fact in Y'PrPb. As a result, the frames are tiled ( 3 frames
side-by-side. The height seems OK, though ) , and show up in black and white
with a very low resolution.


I know the MPEG is OK because I run the same MPEG on my old machine, and
it runs OK ( I mounted my new system's partition via NFS on my old machine,
and then ran xanim with the version of the MPEG that's on the new system's
partition. )

Everything else is OK. JPEGs and XPMs show up perfectly.

Here are my system specs:

K6-2 350MHz
ASUS P5A ( ATX with on-board audio )
64Meg Crucial PC100 CAS3 RAM
Matrox Millenium G200 8Meg SGRAM
RedHat 5.0 with X3.3.3 ( both the SuSe Matrox server and the Xfree86 SVGA
server.)


Any ideas ?

'later...
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Robert Babernits

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Hi,

it has nothing to do with your graphic card. It's the 24 Bit mode of
XFree that Netscape doesn't understand. If your card has enough memory
try the 32 Bit mode. That should work fine.

Robert


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Andreas Reigber

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Tabman wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
> the icons.
>

I had the same problem with a Matrox Millenium I in 24bpp. The solution
was to use 32bpp, then the colors were OK. Dont ask me why...

Greetings,

Anderl

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Jeanrenaud Laurent

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Hello,

For the two colors icons on Netscape, i have resolved the same problem. He comes
when the depth color are in 24 bits mode.
Try to turn your depth color to 16 or 32 bits.

Sorry for my very bad english!!!

Lolo.

Tabman a écrit :

>


Jeanrenaud Laurent

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Hello,

(Cette fois ci en français)

A propos du problème des icones de Netscape en noir et blanc, j'ai remarqué
qu'il aparaissait uniquement quand la G200 était en en mode 24 bits. Essaye de
la faire passer en 16 ou 32 bits. Chez moi cela a résolu le problème.

Laurent

Tabman a écrit :

> Hi folks.
>
> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
> the icons.
>

Kyle Fink

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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If you are interested in a commercial X server, Xi Graphics supports the Matrox
G200 in all modes and resolutions fully hardware accelerated. Our benchmark put
the G200 at 41 Xmarks. That is the fastest graphics card X server combonation
it is about 2 times as fast as X free.

The X server has been tested using the X window test suite which is a free test
suite. Our X server passes.

Try our demo to see if the problems you are having disappear. The demo is at
http://www.xig.com/support/demo2.html.

Kyle

Tabman wrote:

> Hi folks.
>
> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
> the icons.
>
> Also, when I play a MPEG in xanim, the MPEG is played in a screwed up way.
> It looks almost like playing a 4:2:2 Y'PrPb clip as though it were an RGB
> clip. That is to say, the clip is played as though xanim thinks the frames
> are larger than they actually are, and that the colourspace is RGB when it's
> in fact in Y'PrPb. As a result, the frames are tiled ( 3 frames
> side-by-side. The height seems OK, though ) , and show up in black and white
> with a very low resolution.
>
> I know the MPEG is OK because I run the same MPEG on my old machine, and
> it runs OK ( I mounted my new system's partition via NFS on my old machine,
> and then ran xanim with the version of the MPEG that's on the new system's
> partition. )
>

> Everything else is OK. JPEGs and XPMs show up perfectly.
>
> Here are my system specs:
>
> K6-2 350MHz
> ASUS P5A ( ATX with on-board audio )
> 64Meg Crucial PC100 CAS3 RAM
> Matrox Millenium G200 8Meg SGRAM
> RedHat 5.0 with X3.3.3 ( both the SuSe Matrox server and the Xfree86 SVGA
> server.)
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> 'later...
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| "If you make people think they are
> Tabman You may answer in | thinking, they will love you; if you
> english, french, german | make them think, they will hate you."
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Don Marquis

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Tabman

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:57:53 +0100, Jeanrenaud Laurent
<ljea...@worldcom.ch> wrote:
>
>For the two colors icons on Netscape, i have resolved the same problem. He
>comes when the depth color are in 24 bits mode. Try to turn your depth
>color to 16 or 32 bits.
>
>Sorry for my very bad english!!!


Merci Jeanrenaud.

T'avais raison. You were correct. I set the default bpp to 32 and
everything's fine.


Merci encore.

Tabman

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:15:10 +0100, Andreas Reigber <nos...@dlr.de> wrote:
>Tabman wrote:
>>
>> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
>> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
>> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
>> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
>> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
>> the icons.
>>
>
>I had the same problem with a Matrox Millenium I in 24bpp. The solution
>was to use 32bpp, then the colors were OK. Dont ask me why...


Thanks ! I just tried it and everything works fine, now.

Vielen Dank.

Tschüß...

Michael Meissner

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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i...@bartron.geek.net (Tabman) writes:

> Hi folks.


>
> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
> the icons.

Try running the color depth at 32 bits per pixel instead of 24 bits per pixel.
Netscrape can't deal with 24 bpp displays.

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4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
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koen Gadeyne

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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In article <369D03C0...@xig.com>, Kyle Fink <ky...@xig.com> wrote:
>If you are interested in a commercial X server, Xi Graphics supports the Matrox
>G200 in all modes and resolutions fully hardware accelerated. Our benchmark
> put
>the G200 at 41 Xmarks. That is the fastest graphics card X server combonation
>it is about 2 times as fast as X free.
>
>The X server has been tested using the X window test suite which is a free test
>suite. Our X server passes.
>
>Try our demo to see if the problems you are having disappear. The demo is at
>http://www.xig.com/support/demo2.html.
>
>Kyle

Yes, you can always solve problems in client software by spending lots of
money.

You could also:

1. get a fixed netscape binary that solves this problem (they exist, now that
the source code is free), or

2. run your XFree86 server in 32bpp mode instead of 24bpp. That will make
netscape and xanim do the right thing.

Both solutions cost an infinite amount less money than the solution presented
above.

Your choice...

K.


>
>Tabman wrote:
>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
>> The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
>> Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
>> everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
>> shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
>> the icons.
>>

>> Also, when I play a MPEG in xanim, the MPEG is played in a screwed up way.
>> It looks almost like playing a 4:2:2 Y'PrPb clip as though it were an RGB
>> clip. That is to say, the clip is played as though xanim thinks the frames
>> are larger than they actually are, and that the colourspace is RGB when it's
>> in fact in Y'PrPb. As a result, the frames are tiled ( 3 frames
>> side-by-side. The height seems OK, though ) , and show up in black and white
>> with a very low resolution.
>>
>> I know the MPEG is OK because I run the same MPEG on my old machine, and
>> it runs OK ( I mounted my new system's partition via NFS on my old machine,
>> and then ran xanim with the version of the MPEG that's on the new system's
>> partition. )
>>
>> Everything else is OK. JPEGs and XPMs show up perfectly.
>>
>> Here are my system specs:
>>
>> K6-2 350MHz
>> ASUS P5A ( ATX with on-board audio )
>> 64Meg Crucial PC100 CAS3 RAM
>> Matrox Millenium G200 8Meg SGRAM
>> RedHat 5.0 with X3.3.3 ( both the SuSe Matrox server and the Xfree86 SVGA
>> server.)
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>>
>> 'later...

>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| "If you make people think they are
>> Tabman You may answer in | thinking, they will love you; if you
>> english, french, german | make them think, they will hate you."
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Don Marquis
>

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ARGIN HERAPETIAN

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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UPGRADE TO REDHAT 5.2

Klaus Konzept

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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> Tabman wrote:
>
> > Hi folks.
> >
> > I have this really strange problem with my Millennium G200 running in Linux.
> > The icons in Netscape Navigator ( the ones on the toolbar, etc. Even the
> > Netscape icon in the top right corner ) are in black and white, but
> > everything else is in perfect colour ! Even Navigator's start up page, which
> > shows the Netscape logo, displays everything correctly ! No joke. It's just
> > the icons.

I扉e had the same problem with my Millenium G200.
The reason was very simple, I used 24 Bit color instead of 32 Bit !!

have a lot of fun...

K.Konzept


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