On 2023-05-27 10:47, Hermann Riemann <
nosp...@hermann-riemann.de> wrote:
> Am 26.05.23 um 22:18 schrieb Peter J. Holzer:
>> Aber das spart nur 4 Zeichen. Macht absolut keinen Unterschied, wenn ich
>> in einer Tabellenzelle mehr als einen Satz unterbringen möchte.
>
> Da bleibt nur html + css ( + vielleicht cgi zum editieren )
Ich rede hier vom Editieren. Das Ergebnis wird dann ja lesbar angezeigt,
weil der Browser jede Tabellenzelle einzeln umbrechen kann. Das ist aber
in einem Text-Editor beim HTML-Source-Code nicht möglich.
Beispiel (
https://www.hjp.at/sf/ideas/computer.rxml)
Im Browser sieht die Tabelle ungefähr so aus:
┌───────┬────┬───────┬────────┬─────────────────┬───────────────────────┐
│year │year│author │title │quote │note │
│written│set │ │ │ │ │
├───────┼────┼───────┼────────┼─────────────────┼───────────────────────┤
│1968 │2010│John │Stand On│Eighteen inches │Pretty small. (Although│
│ │ │Brunner│Zanzibar│high, diameter at│there are a lot of │
│ │ │ │ │the base eleven │peripherals around it) │
│ │ │ │ │inches, and it's │ │
│ │ │ │ │the world's │ │
│ │ │ │ │largest computer │ │
│ │ │ │ │thanks to GT's │ │
│ │ │ │ │patented and │ │
│ │ │ │ │registered system│ │
│ │ │ │ │known as │ │
│ │ │ │ │Micryogenecs. │ │
├───────┼────┼───────┼────────┼─────────────────┼───────────────────────┤
│1968 │2010│John │Stand On│You don't │No PCs, but apparently │
│ │ │Brunner│Zanzibar│memorize log and │public computers are │
│ │ │ │ │sine tables; You │ubiquitous enough that │
│ │ │ │ │buy a slide-rule │people would prefer │
│ │ │ │ │or learn to punch│their use to logarithm │
│ │ │ │ │a public │tables and possibly │
│ │ │ │ │computer! │slide-rules. I'm not │
│ │ │ │ │ │sure what Brunner means│
│ │ │ │ │ │by "punching a │
│ │ │ │ │ │computer", but │
│ │ │ │ │ │elsewhere somebody │
│ │ │ │ │ │"punches an │
│ │ │ │ │ │encyclopedia connection│
│ │ │ │ │ │on his phone", so maybe│
│ │ │ │ │ │public computers can be│
│ │ │ │ │ │accessed by telephone? │
│ │ │ │ │ │An early vision of the │
│ │ │ │ │ │Cloud? │
└───────┴────┴───────┴────────┴─────────────────┴───────────────────────┘
(Uff, den Output von w3m nachzubearbeiten hat jetzt mehr Zeit gebraucht als ich erwartet hatte)
Aber der Source-Code sieht so aus:
<table class="wide">
<tr>
<th> year written</th>
<th> year set</th>
<th> author </th>
<th> title </th>
<th> quote </th>
<th> note </th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> 1968 </td>
<td> 2010</td>
<td> John Brunner</td>
<td> Stand On Zanzibar</td>
<td>
Eighteen inches high, diameter at the base eleven inches,
and it's the world's largest computer thanks to GT's
patented and registered system known as Micryogenecs.
</td>
<td>
Pretty small. (Although there are a lot of peripherals
around it)
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> 1968 </td>
<td> 2010</td>
<td> John Brunner</td>
<td> Stand On Zanzibar</td>
<td>
You don't memorize log and sine tables; You buy a slide-rule
or learn to punch a public computer!
</td>
<td>
No PCs, but apparently public computers are ubiquitous
enough that people would prefer their use
to logarithm tables and possibly slide-rules. I'm not sure
what Brunner means by "punching a computer", but elsewhere
somebody "punches an encyclopedia connection on his phone",
so maybe public computers can be accessed by telephone? An
early vision of the Cloud?
</td>
</tr>
</table>
Wenn ich jede Tabellenzeile in einer Zeile unterbringen möchte, so dass
die Zellen einer Spalte wirklich untereinanderstehen, müsste ich das so
schreiben:
<table class="wide">
<tr> <th> year written <th> year set <th> author <th> title <th> quote <th> note
<tr> <td> 1968 <td> 2010 <td> John Brunner <td> Stand On Zanzibar <td> Eighteen inches high, diameter at the base eleven inches, and it's the world's largest computer thanks to GT's patented and registered system known as Micryogenecs. <td> Pretty small. (Although there are a lot of peripherals around it)
<tr> <td> 1968 <td> 2010 <td> John Brunner <td> Stand On Zanzibar <td> You don't memorize log and sine tables; You buy a slide-rule or learn to punch a public computer! <td> No PCs, but apparently public computers are ubiquitous enough that people would prefer their use to logarithm tables and possibly slide-rules. I'm not sure what Brunner means by "punching a computer", but elsewhere somebody "punches an encyclopedia connection on his phone", so maybe public computers can be accessed by telephone? An early vision of the Cloud?
</table>
Die längste Zeile ist über 600 Zeichen lang. Egal, wie breit Dein
Bildschirm ist, das ist nicht übersichtlich und ich will sowas nicht
editieren müssen - und dabei ist das eine ziemlich kleine Tabelle.
Hmm, mir fällt gerade ein, man könnte die Zellen treppenförmig anordnen:
<table class="wide">
<tr> <th> year written <th> year set <th> author <th> title <th> quote <th> note
<tr> <td> 1968 <td> 2010 <td> John Brunner <td> Stand On Zanzibar <td> Eighteen inches high, diameter at
the base eleven inches, and it's
the world's120 largest computer
thanks to GT's patented and
registered system known as
Micryogenecs. <td> Pretty small. (Although there are a
lot of peripherals around it)
<tr> <td> 1968 <td> 2010 <td> John Brunner <td> Stand On Zanzibar <td> You don't memorize log and sine
tables; You buy a slide-rule or
learn to punch a public computer! <td> No PCs, but apparently public
computers are ubiquitous enough that
people would prefer their use to
logarithm tables and possibly slide
rules. I'm not sure what Brunner
means by "punching a computer", but
elsewhere somebody "punches an
encyclopedia connection on his
phone", so maybe public computers
can be accessed by telephone? An
early vision of the Cloud?
</table>
Aber das ist auch nicht viel besser und man braucht immer noch
Unterstützug durch den Editor beim Formatieren, oder man verbringt mehr
Zeit damit, das in Form zu halten, als den Inhalt zu ändern.
hp