LIG ROOF RIGHTS

[sirohi123]

Any idea who will have the roof rights for LIG flats. Can any
construction can be done by the top floor holder or the roof will be
jointly occupied by all members.

If the top floor holder occupies the roof he has good chances of
contructing another floor....

[Avinash Mehra]

There is no chance to have free space on root as water tanks and other accessories will be fitted on roof.
It will be common area for all building occupant as regular maintenance access will be require to that area by all flats owners in that building



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Avinash

[sirohi123]

But in other localities roofs are being used by the top floor only as
in C-9 or D-1,2 and similar blocks in vasant kunj, the ground floor
owner has the veranda while the top floor occupant gets the roof.

On Sep 14, 3:09 pm, Avinash Mehra <avinash.mehr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no chance to have free space on root as water tanks and other
> accessories will be fitted on roof.
> It will be common area for all building occupant as regular maintenance
> access will be require to that area by all flats owners in that building
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> --
> Avinash
>

[Sandeep Kumar]

Constructing another floor is absolutely illegal and its just done by
bribing various agencies (DDA, Municipal, Policy, etc) offices. And
when these agencies get rap from court they will take those down. It
has happened in earlier colonies but I am not sure if it's to happen
now with so much light on corruption issues.

Regards

[ROOPI]

I stay in Vasant Kunj. The roof is owned by the top most flat owner.
He can construct the same.


Roopinder Singh
9717493309

[Om Deshmukh]

Where I stay in VK there is no permanent access to the roof. So that no one uses it for recreational purposes. There is no proper staircase to the roof. The dishtv folks have a tough time getting there. But I also know of a person who stays on the top floor and  has built a couple of rooms on top with a separate staircase which also opens up to th e rest of the roof. Am sure it is not entirely legal :) 

Sent from my iPad

[Sandeep Kumar]

One of my friend's family also stays in LIG Vasant Kunj and they
themselves told me when I went to their place, that the structure they
constructed was illegal.

Regards

On Sep 14, 7:22 pm, Om Deshmukh <omd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where I stay in VK there is no permanent access to the roof. So that no one uses it for recreational purposes. There is no proper staircase to the roof. The dishtv folks have a tough time getting there. But I also know of a person who stays on the top floor and  has built a couple of rooms on top with a separate staircase which also opens up to th e rest of the roof. Am sure it is not entirely legal :)
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> Sent from my iPad
>

> On 14-Sep-2011, at 3:39 PM, Avinash Mehra <avinash.mehr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > There is no chance to have free space on root as water tanks and other accessories will be fitted on roof.
> > It will be common area for all building occupant as regular maintenance access will be require to that area by all flats owners in that building
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> > Avinash
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[Avinash Mehra]

Looking in to VK Kavery Block pics, it is clear that there are lots many water tanks and water pipes running on roof to downwards for each Flat in the building.
Not sure about other but might be similar case. If somebody visit that area can tell for better. But there must be some arrangement to handle maintenance of those Tanks and pipe lines, Otherwise if there will be problem , then it will be nightmare to fix them.

:)

Avinash

[Om Deshmukh]

In our current VK sector, if there is a problem then we have to fix it ourselves. I once had a leaky pipe and a leaky upstairs tank. I had to get both fixed from my expenses.

In terms of adding the extra floor, the tanks get moved above the "new" roof :)

[sirohi123]

This is something which happens in all LIG flats since the height of
these buildings is low.

On Sep 14, 9:32 pm, Om Deshmukh <omd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In our current VK sector, if there is a problem then we have to fix it
> ourselves. I once had a leaky pipe and a leaky upstairs tank. I had to get
> both fixed from my expenses.
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> In terms of adding the extra floor, the tanks get moved above the "new" roof
> :)
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> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Avinash Mehra <avinash.mehr...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Looking in to VK Kavery Block pics, it is clear that there are lots many
> > water tanks and water pipes running on roof to downwards for each Flat in
> > the building.
> > Not sure about other but might be similar case. If somebody visit that area
> > can tell for better. But there must be some arrangement to handle
> > maintenance of those Tanks and pipe lines, Otherwise if there will be
> > problem , then it will be nightmare to fix them.
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> > :)
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> > Avinash
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> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Om Deshmukh <omd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Where I stay in VK there is no permanent access to the roof. So that no
> >> one uses it for recreational purposes. There is no proper staircase to the
> >> roof. The dishtv folks have a tough time getting there. But I also know of a
> >> person who stays on the top floor and  has built a couple of rooms on top
> >> with a separate staircase which also opens up to th e rest of the roof. Am
> >> sure it is not entirely legal :)
>
> >> Sent from my iPad
>

> >> On 14-Sep-2011, at 3:39 PM, Avinash Mehra <avinash.mehr...@gmail.com>

> >> wrote:
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> >> There is no chance to have free space on root as water tanks and other
> >> accessories will be fitted on roof.
> >> It will be common area for all building occupant as regular maintenance
> >> access will be require to that area by all flats owners in that building
>
> >> --
> >> Avinash
>

[Avinash Mehra]

Good for those who got top floors

:)

[Sandeep Kumar]

Hi All,

I'm sorry to say this, but we don't want to encourage discussions
related to any illegal activity. So would request all members to not
discuss these kind of things which is not legal in this group. Your
cooperation is much appreciated. Thanks

Regards
Sandeep

On Sep 15, 2:48 pm, Avinash Mehra <avinash.mehr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good for those who got top floors
>
> :)
>

[rakesh kumar]

I thnk everybody is free to exprss thier opnion which by no means is illegal as long as it is to create awareness about real life scenarios

[rajan.c...@gmail.com]

Hi Rakesh...dont quite agree with you...expressing opinion is not
illegal...but expressing opinion promoting something which is illelgal
would qualify as illegal ...which is not in the right spirit of the
DDA-2010- group.

If I confused you with above wording let me summarize it for you
personally i think its not right forum to discuss this.

I hope you get your roof and DDA would b kind enough to mention that for
you exclusively in your demand cum alottment letter...:)

Rajan

[vrindavan mathura]

from http://www.dda.org.in/home.htm

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http://www.dda.org.in/housing/permissible_alteration_housing.htm

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In two, three & four storeyed houses where roof is accessible through staircase & mumty, the right to use the roof top rests with the top floor allottee subject to the provision of access to the residents of the block for maintenance of Water Tank, Plumbing System, Fixing of TV/ Cable Antennas etc.

http://www.dda.org.in/tendernotices_docs/november10/Policy_procedure_for_permission_regularization_of_additions.pdf

Section II & III

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Br,

Anupam

[rakesh kumar]

This says it all thnx vrinda for sharing this piece of info. hope mr chandolia and others will know the value of info sharing and general awareness on this forum rather than taking it personal...

[amit ambe]

What a sham - Anna! Anna! And now this.
So sad to see the posts above.

Please leave all such thoughts of 'kabza' aside. The rule of the top
storey going to the top flat owner applies only to plots/ or to duplex
flats.

Have a look here to see:
To avoid this kind of nonsense i suggest we have a RWA make some
bylaws and make everyone stick to them.
Corruption isnt the bribe you pay, its this idea to 'grab' and make
off with whats not yours.

From: http://www.consumercomplaints.in/complaints/dda-authorities-vigilance-department-c99165.html


1. The top floor owners in DDA flats have usurped the roof terrace and
have constructed room (read barasati) illegally.

2. What has been the reason of doing so is misreading the rule i.e.
Addition Alteration Permitted in DDA Flats where under the para
Addition Alteration Permitted with prior permission sub para 4 allows
the construction of the barsati. The para is in continuation of para 3
three which explain that in TWO STOREY flats the upper floor owner
will have no right of extra space due to coverage of ground floor
courtyard, he will use the roof terrace for additional coverage.

3. The fundamental issue which nobody in DDA or MCD understands is
that these building bye laws are applicable only to land purchased or
the floor area that you are the owner of by virtue of the title or
sale deed. Since no allottee has been granted the roof terrace in his
title deed there fore he CANNOT carry out any construction on any area
that he is not the owner of.

4. Please read the bye laws and see that MCD will pass the buck to DDA
for interpretation and DDA (absolutely corrupt) will not have the
intelligence or dilligence to see the difference.

None the less do not give up as the claim in not banafide by the upper
floor owner for the roof terrace as explained above.

On Sep 15, 10:38 pm, rakesh kumar <rakesh.kumar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This says it all thnx vrinda for sharing this piece of info. hope mr
> chandolia and others will know the value of info sharing and general
> awareness on this forum rather than taking it personal...

> On 15 Sep 2011 21:22, "vrindavan mathura" <v.vrinda...@gmail.com> wrote:> fromhttp://www.dda.org.in/home.htm
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> > a)
> > In two, three & four storeyed houses where roof is accessible through
> > staircase & mumty, the right to use the roof top rests with the top floor
> > allottee subject to the provision of access to the residents of the block
> > for maintenance of Water Tank, Plumbing System, Fixing of TV/ Cable
> Antennas
> > etc.
>

> http://www.dda.org.in/tendernotices_docs/november10/Policy_procedure_...
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> > Section II & III
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> > Br,
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> > Anupam

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[Rajesh]

Thanks Vrindavan,
I am not sure most people know this.

My sister has a top floor house and she had to deal with considerable
damage to her walls and roof when the tanks on the top floor leaked
(which happened often). No one was ready to take responsibility of the
damage it was causing to her house. Moreover sometimes some youth/
children will go to her top floor and make lots of noise playing
football.

They spend lots of money in order dig up the entire roof and put a new
roof with special material to make sure seepage does not keep ruining
her walls. She asked other residents with their tanks to share the
cost of putting new roof but no one was willing. So she paid all of it
and installed a door in order to control access to the floor as well.
If she had known this things might have been slightly more easy for
them.

regards,
Rajesh

On Sep 15, 11:52 am, vrindavan mathura <v.vrinda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fromhttp://www.dda.org.in/home.htm
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> http://www.dda.org.in/housing/permissible_alteration_housing.htm
>
> a)
> In two, three & four storeyed houses where roof is accessible through
> staircase & mumty, the right to use the roof top rests with the top floor
> allottee subject to the provision of access to the residents of the block
> for maintenance of Water Tank, Plumbing System, Fixing of TV/ Cable Antennas
> etc.
>

> http://www.dda.org.in/tendernotices_docs/november10/Policy_procedure_...
>
> Section II & III
>
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[Rajesh]

Another thought on roof rights.

When we were small children we used to sleep on the roof in summer.
Those were great day of childhood memories. Now I live in US. I miss
sleeping under the stars like we used to in childhood. Now a days,
everyone is just so used to luxuries of air conditioners and extra
plush mattresses. But luckily, I got allotted a top floor flat. I am
optimistically looking forward to idea of sleeping on top of 9th floor
with my children on a charpai. :-)

PS: I hope those aircrafts don't cause too much disturbance and noise.

[ravi rai]

Dear Sirs
               First of all I m not very active member of group reason I do not stay in delhi but i do follow the mail closely and sincerely appreciate everybody effort for contributing to group particularly who does not stay in delhi . best to ignore  this subject before this subject become personnel.
                                                                                                                                         Once again many tks for contributing to group by everybody.
tks and brgds
capt. ravi rai

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ravi prakash rai
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[PUNEET MISHRA]

HI RAJESH

I NEVER thought about the problm faced by the top floor allotee but
today bu opened my eyes , i thnk u can complain about the reform.