Could I use this program to get images from Kodak directview classic CR

[seckin bilgic]

Hello,

I am at emergency room of a small town.

we have Kodak DirectView Classic CR machine to get xrays from casettes.

Is this program receive images from xray casettes?

[matthe...@netscape.net]

If I remember correctly,there should be a PC with the software that "controls" the CR Reader.
Run dcm4chee on that PC.  Configure the Kodak software to connect to AEtitle "DCM4CHEE" at IP: 127.0.0.1 at port 11112

Configure the Kodak Software to use, for itself, AETitle "Kodak", IP :127.0.0.1 port 104

Then Configure DCM4chee to connect to the Kodak at "AEtitle:Kodak, IP 127.0.0.1 Port 104

The kodak software will have a mini patient list,  a small viewer, mainly for QC an image, and a database.
  

Look at the image on the Kodak, attach a text file with your interpretation to the file and save as a 

dicom object of the study or use oviyam..

Ship Study to DCM4chee...  In the future, when the Studies on the CR PC have FIFO'e out, then qury / retrive from the dcm4chee archive..

 conquest Pacs insteadof DCM4chee.  might be easier to config and manage,

A printer would be nice 

Dcm4chee will work for what you need to do if you have the Kodak software you are golden

Well and  a PC with the physical connection for the CR Reader..                                                                                       

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[Suresh Viswanathan]

Usually the Kodak/Carestream guys don't like it if you install anything on their system. 

Ideally you should install dcm4chee on a separate PC and configure the CR PC to push studies to the server. 
Suresh. 

[matthe...@netscape.net]

Yes, would be the difference between having a kodak system still with support or just some kodak system that was donated or otherwise came into your possession.

If you have support for the Kodak system, then get another PC to run dcm4chee on.  If you are a small non-profit or office that 

doesn't have alot of money and the CR system is not under a support contract, then there is nothing inherently "bad" about running on  the same PC.. 

Just make sure the two AEtitles are using different ports and you have enough storage to run the two..

Otherwise, just use the kodak systems little dicom server and the viewer interface or use another PC running a viewer to connect to it..

options, options, options.. it is the strength of open source.. but also can be it pain in the ass....

my $0.00002   :-)

[Suresh Viswanathan]

True.

Iirc, the Kodak system does not have a DICOM server in it. It can only send DICOM images out and can’t even query a study it from the PACS.

Suresh

[matthe...@netscape.net]

heh..  true it has been 8 years or so since I last worked with a kodak cr reader..  

You are just going to have to see what you have and then decide how best to proceed with regard to funds 

and the status of the reader vis a vis support from Kodak..  the optimal sulution would be to have a second PC with 

dcm4chee, conquest, or kpacs on it.  Clear Canvas might be an option, but I stopped try to use that quite awhile ago because it seemed too

involved for simple setups.

IF all you are doing is simple store and query / retrieve, systems in order of ease of setup and usage
conquest

kpacs

dcm4chee

clearcanvas

conquest and kpacs require no extra software like java and jboss.

To me, conquest has a much more simple setup and configuration than kpacs

the included dbase database engine would be sufficient for decades of CR imaging at a few a day.

Conquest allows usage of different databases as does dcm4chee (mysql/postgresql etc) for more 

intensive usage.

your mileage may vary.

.

Are you sending studies to a Radiologist or is there one in-house?

How will you be acquiring primary diagnostic interpretations?

Kpacs and conquest both provide viewing capability, though kpac's viewer is more robust. 

Neither of them have 510k approval as far as I know though image-systems' paid for version does.

 

There is also the Oviyam product.

So there are your "free stuffs"

There are also the commercial offerings that you could look at.  But then again.. PACS itself is becoming kind of an commodity appliance

with functionality across vendors for all your basic needs then increasing costs as you add functionality to the base system.

But you do get support.  A simple call to the vendor and file a trouble ticket and they fix it.

Or you could do a "cloud" storage where you are charged either by study or by storage used. 

Again, these are usually run by commercial vendors and they support their own systems.

Open source stuff, while you can find paid for support, if you do it yourself, you may be down for awhile if you can't quickly find

a solution via forums or web searches.  Paid for support for open source is also going to be, in some respects, and unknown quantity until

you actually need to use them.  Then you will find out if that support company is right for you or not...

ah well.. thanks for reading.. just a little bit of a rant..

[Rady]

If you really wanted a very light PACS and that can sit unnoticed by your Kodak Engineers and to the job you wanted, try Orthance DICOM Server and WADO Client from CharruaSoft. 

Just copy couple of files on your kodak CR Console, no installation what so ever and your Pacs + Viewing is done with some very basic configuration. Orthance Support for WADO that makes it handy even on low internet connection for Remote Access. f

I have tried Orthance on Rasberry Pi (though needs a bit of recompilation) and on QNAP Nas box, it is that extremely light.  Orthance DICOM Server on a QNAP Nas Box is a killer combination. I will post a blog shortly on how to deploy Orthance on low cost QNAP Boxes, so you take the advantage of sorting images for a long duration with redundancy. 

regards

Rady