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[Rambabu Jalli]

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

Dear Mridul ji,

Why I posted the calculations is, dbSoft-2016 adopts the multiplying factor for 18% or 12% GST and for 10% CP also as calculated by me or you. Since, there is no approval from Corp. office, our higher office may object. Hence, I just formulated it by the same procedure as given in the rate analysis provided by the CPWD so that it will be easy to check. You can also submit your calculations, provided that they should understand and accept. Anyhow, that is one time process. dbSoft will take care rest of things.

To post message on the group send mail to dbsoft...@googlegroups.com

with regards,

Rambabu Jalli

Asst. General Manager (L&B)

O/o CGMT, Telangana Circle

HYDERABAD - 500 063.

Mobile No. +91 9490 144 900

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:24, JTO Civil <bsnlci...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

with regards,

Mridul Ratnu

JTO (C)

O/o CE(C), Uttarakhand Civil Zone

[SDE CIVIL]

Sir 

In this multyplication factor calculation the CP& OH is caculating on GST While the GSt should be at the finished rate .

The gross amount =w(1+f)(1.15 (A) includes the cp & OH

but reverse calculation (B) gross amount = (100/18XWf)+Wf    is not includes the cp charges and A& B is not equal 

 Sir, this factor arise increase the item rate and extra Cp to agency.

Inthis factor looking some thing wronge . please check and gaude me 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:15 PM Rambabu Jalli <rambab...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

Dear Mridul ji,

Why I posted the calculations is, dbSoft-2016 adopts the multiplying factor for 18% or 12% GST and for 10% CP also as calculated by me or you. Since, there is no approval from Corp. office, our higher office may object. Hence, I just formulated it by the same procedure as given in the rate analysis provided by the CPWD so that it will be easy to check. You can also submit your calculations, provided that they should understand and accept. Anyhow, that is one time process. dbSoft will take care rest of things.

To post message on the group send mail to dbsoft...@googlegroups.com

with regards,

Rambabu Jalli

Asst. General Manager (L&B)

O/o CGMT, Telangana Circle

HYDERABAD - 500 063.

Mobile No. +91 9490 144 900

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:24, JTO Civil <bsnlci...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

with regards,

Mridul Ratnu

JTO (C)

O/o CE(C), Uttarakhand Civil Zone

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[RambabuJalli-SDE(C)]

Dear Sir,

The CPWD had originally issued orders to add GST at the end after CP & OH! But, the Builders Association of India made a representation to CPWD to allow CP and OH on the GST also. For Rate Analysis purpose we consider all the basic rates with out GST. But practically the contractor has to pay GST on each material and procure. The same will be paid to him at the time of bill. Hence, a modified order has been released by CPWD to add GST in the form of multiplying factor allowing CP & OH on the GST amount also. While making making payment, net amount (SES amount)  shall be Gross Amount / 1.18 (if GST is 18%).

Hence, there is no error in the calculations.

On Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:36:22 UTC+5:30, sdeciviljbp wrote:

Sir 

In this multyplication factor calculation the CP& OH is caculating on GST While the GSt should be at the finished rate .

The gross amount =w(1+f)(1.15 (A) includes the cp & OH

but reverse calculation (B) gross amount = (100/18XWf)+Wf    is not includes the cp charges and A& B is not equal 

 Sir, this factor arise increase the item rate and extra Cp to agency.

Inthis factor looking some thing wronge . please check and gaude me 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:15 PM Rambabu Jalli <rambab...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

Dear Mridul ji,

Why I posted the calculations is, dbSoft-2016 adopts the multiplying factor for 18% or 12% GST and for 10% CP also as calculated by me or you. Since, there is no approval from Corp. office, our higher office may object. Hence, I just formulated it by the same procedure as given in the rate analysis provided by the CPWD so that it will be easy to check. You can also submit your calculations, provided that they should understand and accept. Anyhow, that is one time process. dbSoft will take care rest of things.

To post message on the group send mail to dbsoft-users@googlegroups.com

with regards,

Rambabu Jalli

Asst. General Manager (L&B)

O/o CGMT, Telangana Circle

HYDERABAD - 500 063.

Mobile No. +91 9490 144 900

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:24, JTO Civil <bsnlci...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

with regards,

Mridul Ratnu

JTO (C)

O/o CE(C), Uttarakhand Civil Zone

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[Meenal Jeevan Bahirat]

Sir ,

Few queries about the estimates and tender

1) while preparing the estimate whether the rate analysis for Non DSR items to be made taking into account the reversible factor i.e 0.2016 or estimates are to be prepared with old methods.i.e 1 % water charges,10% contractor profit, 18%GST and 1%BCWS

2) whether in percentage rate tender , rates of all items should include the GST  or not ?

From: "RambabuJalli-SDE(C)" <rambab...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 18:41:02 GMT+0530
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Subject: Re: [dbSoft - users: 484] Fwd: GST multiplication factor - your mail on dbsoft-users group regarding

Dear Sir,

The CPWD had originally issued orders to add GST at the end after CP & OH! But, the Builders Association of India made a representation to CPWD to allow CP and OH on the GST also. For Rate Analysis purpose we consider all the basic rates with out GST. But practically the contractor has to pay GST on each material and procure. The same will be paid to him at the time of bill. Hence, a modified order has been released by CPWD to add GST in the form of multiplying factor allowing CP & OH on the GST amount also. While making making payment, net amount (SES amount)  shall be Gross Amount / 1.18 (if GST is 18%).

Hence, there is no error in the calculations.

On Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:36:22 UTC+5:30, sdeciviljbp wrote:

Sir 

In this multyplication factor calculation the CP& OH is caculating on GST While the GSt should be at the finished rate .

The gross amount =w(1+f)(1.15 (A) includes the cp & OH

but reverse calculation (B) gross amount = (100/18XWf)+Wf    is not includes the cp charges and A& B is not equal 

 Sir, this factor arise increase the item rate and extra Cp to agency.

Inthis factor looking some thing wronge . please check and gaude me 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:15 PM Rambabu Jalli <rambab...@gmail.com';return true;" on-click="this.href='mailto:rambab...@gmail.com';return true;" >rambab...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

Dear Mridul ji,

Why I posted the calculations is, dbSoft-2016 adopts the multiplying factor for 18% or 12% GST and for 10% CP also as calculated by me or you. Since, there is no approval from Corp. office, our higher office may object. Hence, I just formulated it by the same procedure as given in the rate analysis provided by the CPWD so that it will be easy to check. You can also submit your calculations, provided that they should understand and accept. Anyhow, that is one time process. dbSoft will take care rest of things.

To post message on the group send mail to dbsoft-users@googlegroups.com

with regards,

Rambabu Jalli

Asst. General Manager (L&B)

O/o CGMT, Telangana Circle

HYDERABAD - 500 063.

Mobile No. +91 9490 144 900

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:24, JTO Civil <bsnlci...@gmail.com';return true;" on-click="this.href='mailto:bsnlci...@gmail.com';return true;" >bsnlci...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

with regards,

Mridul Ratnu

JTO (C)

O/o CE(C), Uttarakhand Civil Zone

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[Rambabu Jalli]

Sir,

Wherever you are doing rate analysis i.e Extra item, tender justification, Deviation Statements etc. you have to follow the GST factor method.

Regarding percentage also the percentage to be quoted shall be inclusive of GST. If present system is not inclusive of GST you follow till next is released.

When new DSR is released all the rates will be  inclusive of 12% GST and labour cess.

Regards, 

Rambabu Jalli,
Asst. General Manager (L&B)
O/o CGMT, Telagana Circle
HYDERABAD - 500 063.
(matter may be brief as sent on mobile)

On Wed 12 Sep, 2018 14:21 Meenal Jeevan Bahirat, <meenal...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Sir ,

Few queries about the estimates and tender

1) while preparing the estimate whether the rate analysis for Non DSR items to be made taking into account the reversible factor i.e 0.2016 or estimates are to be prepared with old methods.i.e 1 % water charges,10% contractor profit, 18%GST and 1%BCWS

2) whether in percentage rate tender , rates of all items should include the GST  or not ?




From: "RambabuJalli-SDE(C)" <rambab...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 18:41:02 GMT+0530
To: dbSoft-Users <dbsoft...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [dbSoft - users: 484] Fwd: GST multiplication factor - your mail on dbsoft-users group regarding

Dear Sir,

The CPWD had originally issued orders to add GST at the end after CP & OH! But, the Builders Association of India made a representation to CPWD to allow CP and OH on the GST also. For Rate Analysis purpose we consider all the basic rates with out GST. But practically the contractor has to pay GST on each material and procure. The same will be paid to him at the time of bill. Hence, a modified order has been released by CPWD to add GST in the form of multiplying factor allowing CP & OH on the GST amount also. While making making payment, net amount (SES amount)  shall be Gross Amount / 1.18 (if GST is 18%).

Hence, there is no error in the calculations.

On Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:36:22 UTC+5:30, sdeciviljbp wrote:

Sir 

In this multyplication factor calculation the CP& OH is caculating on GST While the GSt should be at the finished rate .

The gross amount =w(1+f)(1.15 (A) includes the cp & OH

but reverse calculation (B) gross amount = (100/18XWf)+Wf    is not includes the cp charges and A& B is not equal 

 Sir, this factor arise increase the item rate and extra Cp to agency.

Inthis factor looking some thing wronge . please check and gaude me 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:15 PM Rambabu Jalli <rambab...@gmail.com';return true;" on-click="this.href='mailto:rambab...@gmail.com';return true;" >rambab...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jalli Sir, 

Kindly find attached a sheet for GST multiplying factor calculations with a slightly different presentation. Although there is not much left to say after the elaborate calculations provided by you, I still hope this sheet is simpler and would add to the understanding of how the Reverse calculation is done to arrive at the Multiplication factor. Please post it on the group if you agree, as I am not able to post on the group. 

Dear Mridul ji,

Why I posted the calculations is, dbSoft-2016 adopts the multiplying factor for 18% or 12% GST and for 10% CP also as calculated by me or you. Since, there is no approval from Corp. office, our higher office may object. Hence, I just formulated it by the same procedure as given in the rate analysis provided by the CPWD so that it will be easy to check. You can also submit your calculations, provided that they should understand and accept. Anyhow, that is one time process. dbSoft will take care rest of things.

To post message on the group send mail to dbsoft...@googlegroups.com