Pacquiao Vs Marquez 4- Marquez Knocks Pacman out Cold in 5th Round
Diaz, Enrico B
Comment ko lang ate Joyce na kailangan na nyang magretiro ‘coz he has got almost everything ;)
Cheers to everyone!
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talo na daw kuya confirmed :(
Best Regards,
Joyce Barol-Cajilog
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Diaz, Enrico B <ebd...@rasgas.com.qa> wrote:
Like kuyang ;) Let’s altogether pray for our Kababayans’ needs! Thanks.
Nga pala lapit na boxing ni Pacquiao… ‘yon na lang ang dapat pagdebatihan natin kung manalo si Pacman kay Marquez, dapat na ba syang magretiro?
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Jayson Celestra
pero that's sports.. minsan panalo minsan talo...
kelangan na ba magretiro? well, it's not that easy to leave the sport you realy love...
kung yun na ang naging buhay mo, yun na ang kinabuhay mo, yun na ang lahat lahat sa yo... it's not that easy..
lalo pa't alam mong minsan matatalo ka at minsan mananalo... bakit mo naman gagawing dahilang magretiro
ang minsanang pagkatalo? at lalo pa't alam mong malakas ka pa at pwedeng pwede pang manalo? at ang laki pa ng
perang pwede mong panalunan? hindi thousands or millions, but could be billions of pesoseseses!!
gaya din yan ng kahit anong propesyon: pagkanta, pagsayaw, pagpasok sa office... ang nakasanayan ay di madaling
alisan... marahil kapag naramdaman mong 'solve' ka na saka ka aayaw... si Manny? ewan ko mahirap sabihin kung
solve na sya...
pero kahit ano pang nangyari, natalo man sya, hindi maikakaila ng bawat Pilipino na naiangat nya ang dangal ng ating bansa..
nakilala 'tayo' (bakit nga ba tayo e sya lang naman dapat yun? dahil bawat laban nya ay laban natin).. kung kaya nga't marami sa atin ang nagsasabing 'magretiro ka na Manny'
dahil ayaw nating masaktan ang ating mga damdamin sa kanyang bawat pagkatalo... ngunit sa mga sandaling ito wag natin
syang iwan, sa mga panahong kanyang kailangan ang ating higit na suporta...
yun lang po... ;))
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Romualdo Abary
Opinion lang po…
Di po kaya me itinuturo din sa kanya si LORD as a Christian?
Sabi nga po sa Hebrews 13:5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Ganon din po sa 1 Timothy 6:6-11 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. ...
Marami pa pong mga verses about “contentment”…
Sabi nio nga po “He almost have/got everything”…alam naman po nating win or lose mahina ang 25 million dollar excluding pay per view…
Minsan po may mga taong hindi mabitaw bitawan ang isang bagay na nakasanayan na nila…halimbawa ang kumita ng malaki sa madaling paraan na alam nating nakasanayan na nia…
Isang bagay na pwedeng sa isang pagkakamali ay pwede tayong mapahiwalay sa presensya ng Diyos…
Napag aralan din po natin yan sa mga previous bible study natin…about all the things na pwedeng makahadlang, magpahiwalay or nagpapadelay ng ating paglago bilang isang Kristyano…
Hindi ko po hinuhusgahan ang pagkatao nia bilang isang tao at isang Kristyano dahil alam ko na ang Panginoon lang ang pwedeng humusga sa atin…hindi rin po naman natin pwedeng basahin ang laman ng puso nia..
Pero halos lahat po ng nakakakilala sa kanya na sa lahat ng kinita nia, kahit third generation ng pamilya nia ay mabubuhay ng masagana…para saan pa po ung laban at kikitain nia?
Contentment…un lang po and again, opinion lang po.
God bless po!
Buboy Abary
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Jayson Celestra
well, some thoughts to ponder:
- Does Manny bring disgrace or honor to God whenever He fights especially now that he is a believer? I choose to believe that he exalts God in his every fight since his conversion (kahit pa nga dati pa). We all know how vocal he is about his newfound faith. Is this going against 1 Cor 10:31?
- Would it be fair to attribute to him the ongoing gamblings whenever he fights? Kasalanan ba nya talaga yun? Or instrumental ba sya dun? Would gambling stop if Manny stops boxing? It raises other questions of the same principle: Can a christian be a politician? Can a christian be a soldier (e pumapatay yun!)? Can a christian enter showbiz? Or become a 'magician'?
- If Manny retired from boxing because of his newfound faith, would it be a good testimony? Or would it give people from other religious beliefs more reasons to give condescending remarks or thoughts to Manny? Kapag 'born again' ka na ba hindi ka na hiyang/bagay/dapat sa mga paligsahan?
- If God has given Manny the ability/gift to acquire riches (and fame) , should he stop from fulfiling this gift? Should a strong and high-flying eagle be trapped in a cage? Or a strong bear be chained? Isn't it going against God's design? Bibihira lang ang pinagkalooban ng Diyos ng ganitong kakayahan (ex. would be King Solomon). I hope people know na hindi masama ang pagkakaroon ng kayamanan. Lalo pa nga't may takot sa Diyos ang nagtataglay nito.
O wag naman kayong masyadong tataas ang kilay mga kaps... Ito po'y napapanahong talakayan lamang...
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Joyce Barol-Cajilog
Dahil kahit saan naman pwede tayong gamitin ni God, and probably that's the field where God wants to use Manny - sa boxing. like Garry V sa show business, kelangan din ba nya mag stop as a singer and performer because he is a Christian? God in not controlling and stiff, what is more important to him is the heart/ our heart regardless of what our profession/ passion is as long as we have a pure and clean heart before Him and we honor Him in all we do.
Then we cannot decide for Manny nor can judge on what he is doing is right or wrong because only GOD knows and sees his heart and mind.
opinion lng din mga kapatid. don't take this or any opinion against each other nor think we are creating something to debate on but this is just a HEALTHY SHARING OF OPINIONS. I encourage every one to learn from each other's opinion and if you think it's helpful for you then you can add it to you library, if not then you are free to disregard it. "no offense meant- sabi ni kuya jayce"
and it's healthy to exchange opinions and thoughts of one another, for me ha because para sa akin it adds to my intelligence and wisdom... Gob bless mga kaps. and let, love...love... love... :)
Joyce Barol-Cajilog
Jayson Celestra
hahaha ;)
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ritzel cortez
Masyado npong naging malawak ang ating talakayan. Ang akin lamang po ay hindi ko nman binanggit n dapat n siyang tumigil for what he is doing and enjoying to do nor minasama ang kanyang pagiging mayaman or should I say sobrang yaman as I said he is blessed at di nmn yata kailanman naging masama ang blessed. But if we are going to look at d other side of the coin, whether he likes it or not alam po nating lahat na siya ay aware n s tuwing siya ay lumalaban ay nagkakaruon ng malawakan or worldwide n pustahan at sugalan n minsan nga ay humahantong p s krimen di po b? Hindi ko po jina judge si Pacman s pamamaraan niya ng pag exalt kay God because Sabi nga we can only judge ourselves at si God lang ang maaring mang husga. Kung tau po b ay biglaang nag fail s ating profession, race or whatever undertaking hahayaan nlng b natin n ganun nlang? E s natalo e...s
bumagsak e...di po b man lang natin i si seek ang wisdom kay God? Lord ano ang nais mong ipahiwatig dito? Hindi b ntin hihingiin ang kanyang kalooban? Basta ipagpapatuloy pdin natin dahil ito ang ating propesyon at ito ang pagpapala at gift nya sa atin. Ganun po b? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android |
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Masyado npong naging malawak ang ating talakayan. Ang akin lamang po ay hindi ko nman binanggit n dapat n siyang tumigil for what he is doing and enjoying to do nor minasama ang kanyang pagiging mayaman or should I say sobrang yaman as I said he is blessed at di nmn yata kailanman naging masama ang blessed. But if we are going to look at d other side of the coin, whether he likes it or not alam po nating lahat na siya ay aware n s tuwing siya ay lumalaban ay nagkakaruon ng malawakan or worldwide n pustahan at sugalan n minsan nga ay humahantong p s krimen di po b? Hindi ko po jina judge si Pacman s pamamaraan niya ng pag exalt kay God because Sabi nga we can only judge ourselves at si God lang ang maaring mang husga. Kung tau po b ay biglaang nag fail s ating profession, race or whatever undertaking hahayaan nlng b natin n ganun nlang? E s natalo e...s bumagsak e...di po b man lang natin i si seek ang wisdom kay God? Lord ano ang nais mong ipahiwatig dito? Hindi b ntin hihingiin ang kanyang kalooban? Basta ipagpapatuloy pdin natin dahil ito ang ating propesyon at ito ang pagpapala at gift nya sa atin. Ganun po b?
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Failure or a lesson to be learn or lesson learned but still we need God's wisdom and His guidance before we move on. Sabi nga history repeats itself bakit? Kc nagpapatuloy tau without seeking and discerning kung ano God's will.
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Jayson Celestra
Can one then say, 'Si Manny hindi nagsi-seek ng wisdom ni God dahil tuloy pa rin sya sa boxing'? We may not know unless we ask him. But for him to continue does not mean hindi na sya nag-seek ng God's will.
I may say it's a case to case basis. For some, ang pagkabigo sa kanyang sariling larangan ay pangungusap ng Diyos na umalis na sa larangang ito. Sa iba naman, ang mga dagok na ito'y pagsubok lamang at hamon upang lalong lumakas at tumibay sa muling pagbangon. Whichever side you're in, wag kaliligtaang unahin ang pagsumpong sa karunungan ng Diyos.
Tungkol sa kay Manny, ewan ko kung anong tingin nya ngunit ayon sa kanyang tinuran sa interview nya ay babalik sya sa ring. So its the latter case, i suppose.
Mga kaps, with this i rest my pen on this topic. Hopefully may natutunan tayo: intellectually, morally, emotionally, spiritually.
GBU all
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Alexander Del Pilar
ang sigurado ay naitalaga na nang Diyos ang mangyayari sa kanya sa mga darating pang panahon.
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Jayson Celestra
pampasaya ;-)
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Dahil dyan sa magaganda nyong kuro kuro magiging
masaya ang lahat kong may...
At kung inyong mamarapatin ang akin namang
masasabi ay sa pamamagitan ng isang joke:
tanong ni Pedro: ilang beses
umiikot ang aso bago ito mahiga at tuluyang matulog?
sagot ni Petra : Lima
ani Pedro: Mali
dahil maraming hula si Petra
na mali raw, siya ay nagturan: Sirit, ilan ba?
ani Pedro: Marunong ka pa sa
aso kung ilang ikot ang kanyang gagawin bago mahiga!
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Ang sa atin ay mga suhestiyon lang ika nga,
nasa aso este sa tao pa rin kung maiintindihan at makikinig sa mga suhestiyon,
tiyak napakarami na ang umusbong na tagapayo nya sa oras na ito.
una,
kasi nga naman, mapera ka nga pero may alzeimer ka naman dahil sa bugbog
na inabot at iyo pang aabutin kong ipagpapatuloy ang laban, nitong huling
laban nya ay sa wari ko ay kinasiyahan siya ng Panginoon, maari kasing
ikamatay nya ang suntok na yon dahil napurohan siya. Salamat na lang nagising
pa siya at nasa maayos pa ang pag iisip, marami na kasing boksingero ang
hindi na nabuhay sa ganong sitwasyon.
pangalawa,
bilang manggagawa o manlalaro na nagsimula sa isang abang pamumuhay, ang
iyong unang pangarap ay iyong maiangat ang kabuhayan, kung ito ay iyo nang
nakamtan at sa mura pang edad bilang bahagi na marahil nang biyaya nang
Panginoon, di ba mas mahaba ang panahon na magugugol mo upang iyong pagsaluhan
ang iyong pinaghirapan?
kaya nga kailangan ni Manny
ang masusing pag aaral, pananaliksik at lalo na panalangin sa kanyang susunod
na hakbang, kung itutuloy ba niya ang laban upang maitayo ang dangal o
sa ano pa mang kadahilanan, (na hindi naman nakakasiguro na magtatagumpay
siya) o kanya nang isasabit ang kanyan glab at 1) maging pulito na lang
2) ipagpatuloy ang pagiging alagad ng Diyos 3) pangasiwaan ang bilyong
piso na niyang nalikom 4) magpakasaya...
Ano't ano pa man, tulad ng
isang aso, marunong pa ba tayo kung ilang ikot ang kanyang gagawin...ang
sigurado ay naitalaga na nang Diyos ang mangyayari sa kanya sa mga darating
pang panahon.
trabaho muna ,
Ri'An Dacanay
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Ri'An Dacanay
Cebu Daily News
8:43 am | Monday, June 25th, 2012
66 6085 4932
They started stalking the Filipino ring idol after the Pacquiao-Marquez fight in November 2011, when the world’s eight-division boxing champ decided to change his lifestyle and began holding daily Bible study with his family, friends and supporters.
But there were just two or three pastors then attending in the Bible study.
“They are making our boxing idol a milking cow. The real Manny Pacquiao doesn’t know how to say no. But if they are real disciples of God, they should be ashamed of what they are doing,” the source said.
Another pastor joined the Pacquiao team during the training camp in Los Angeles. “He asked for 36 tickets in the Pacquiao-Bradley fight. The guy got what he wanted,” the source said.
According to the Philippine Daily Inquirer source, it was the first time that someone asked for 36 tickets and eight hotel rooms from the boxing champ.
Another source has admitted being convinced that religion is the opium of the masses. “And the preachers are the pushers,” the source added. “Before, we were expecting that these pastors would help or guide Manny Pacquiao towards the path of salvation. We didn’t expect that they would abuse his kindness and generosity,” the source lamented.
“They assigned Manny Pacquaio as the main speaker. From what I’ve heard during the discussion, they wanted Pacquiao to settle all the bills before the staging of the concert,” the source disclosed.
However, according to the source, Pacquiao insisted that all the bills for the venue rental, catering, transportation, etc. be settled only after the concert.
“Manny Pacquiao tend to listen to these pastors more than to his advisers and friends from political and boxing circles,” one of the sources claimed.
Before, he said, the distractions in Pacquiao’s life were his gambling and drinking buddies. “Now, the distractions are the pastors and they are far more costly than the previous ones.”
“The old Manny Pacquiao is gone. Atop the ring, he is no longer as ferocious as before. Unless he learns to temper his new-found passion and obsession, we would no longer see knock-out victories in his future fights,” he said./INQUIRE
Jayson Celestra
ano kayang basis ng write-up na ito?
it's very one-sided... wala bang statement from Manny reg this issue?
or any reaction from those pastors?
a very 'interesting' article indeed..
:))
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Jayson Celestra
Lessons para sa tin :
1. wag mapagsamantala sa mababait na kapatiran
2. wag sumakay sa kasikatan ng isa/iba
3. atbp....
But, still, I am forced to ask the following questions:
1. mauuto ba talaga nila si Manny na hingan? o may sarili syang isip bago magbigay ng pera/items?
2. walang kayang consent ng asawa nya ang mga 'pagbibigay' na ito?
3. gaano katotoo ang mga paratang sa mga pastors dito? obviously this is a very biased report...
4. ganun ba talaga kasama/kautak ang mga pastors na ito?
5. hindi kaya naninira lang ang writer na ito? possibly nasaktan sa pagpalit ni Manny ng beliefs?
nakakatuwa si Manny, napaka controvesial nowadays... ;))
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