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kaytude

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Ron and I are planning on flying at OWW Sunday around 9:30ish. Could be sooner could be later. Get some fine tuning in on the planes before the NATS. 

  Gilbert 


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Barry Andersen

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Sep 1, 2021, 2:16:22 PMSep 1
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All, 

The OVSS contest in Cincinnati is coming up, two weeks away, September 18 and 19.

After several discussions with a number of you, I’m putting this out as most likely format for the two days.

Day one, Saturday September 18, AMA ALES, using “short tapes” 50 points, -5 per half meter.  Too easy to get those 50’s with a 6 foot circle;) 

Day two, Sunday September 19, F5J “Lite”.  See the attachment below from rcgroups awhile back.  Exception to the attachment is that standard 150 meter cutoffs will be allowed with 10% penalty (150 meters scored as 165 meters).  Also, the AMA short tapes.  Do note, that moving toward full F5J that you will lose your landing points if you’re over in time.  Maximum time will be 600 seconds, so 10:04 and a 50 landing will be scored as 10 minutes, no landing points. 

Goal both days, 6 rounds minimum.  Drop low score at round 6.

I’d like to transition to full F5J next spring for one day, following a day of ALES as above.  That means you’ll need to get a real F5J readout altimeter and be prepared for mass start, mass landing.  Please let me know your thoughts on full F5J.  

Comments appreciated.  I’ll post this right away on rcgroups.

Barry





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Jay I Watkins

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Sep 1, 2021, 2:42:33 PMSep 1
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Barry,

Thanks for detailed proposal. Excellent comparison chart.

First issues is that the nice Soaring Circuits altitude limiters (both ALES and F5J) seem to be unavailable. I find the Altis equipment too fussy. This will probably get better with time.

Your example of a 10:04 flight would seem to encourage flying over task time; taking a second off for every second over task time might discourage that. Also, of course, GliderScore will only accept 9:59 max.

Just my two cents.

Jay Watkins


On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Barry Andersen <ande...@twc.com> wrote:

All, 

The OVSS contest in Cincinnati is coming up, two weeks away, September 18 and 19.

After several discussions with a number of you, I’m putting this out as most likely format for the two days.

Day one, Saturday September 18, AMA ALES, using “short tapes” 50 points, -5 per half meter.  Too easy to get those 50’s with a 6 foot circle;) 

Day two, Sunday September 19, F5J “Lite”.  See the attachment below from rcgroups awhile back.  Exception to the attachment is that standard 150 meter cutoffs will be allowed with 10% penalty (150 meters scored as 165 meters).  Also, the AMA short tapes.  Do note, that moving toward full F5J that you will lose your landing points if you’re over in time.  Maximum time will be 600 seconds, so 10:04 and a 50 landing will be scored as 10 minutes, no landing points. 

Goal both days, 6 rounds minimum.  Drop low score at round 6.

I’d like to transition to full F5J next spring for one day, following a day of ALES as above.  That means you’ll need to get a real F5J readout altimeter and be prepared for mass start, mass landing.  Please let me know your thoughts on full F5J.  

Comments appreciated.  I’ll post this right away on rcgroups.

Barry

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On Aug 14, 2021, at 5:07 PM, 'kaytude' via Dayton ARea Thermal Soarers <dayton...@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Ron and I are planning on flying at OWW Sunday around 9:30ish. Could be sooner could be later. Get some fine tuning in on the planes before the NATS. 

  Gilbert 


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kaytude

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Sep 1, 2021, 3:36:35 PMSep 1
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- No Vario's
- No ALES
- No Drop Rounds

   Just My 2 Cents
                               Gilbert 

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Marc Marcum

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Sep 1, 2021, 4:17:02 PMSep 1
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ALES then F5J lite okay with me. Prefer no dropped rounds.

Barry Andersen

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Sep 3, 2021, 3:40:59 PMSep 3
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OK, here’s the final scoop.  ALES Saturday, AMA rules, AMA short tapes (5 points per .5 meter)

F5J Lite Sunday as per the chart sent previously.  Details as per the info below.  No telemetry in F5J.  

No drop rounds.  New pedalions, thanks to Mark Groves for inspiration and Joe Sampietro for design and generating the 3D files.  Genuine PLA plastic medals through 5th, in gold, silver and bronze.  

Cincinnati Aeromodelers field, update on conditions as we get closer.  Pilots meeting 8:30, first flight 9am.  6 rounds per day goal.  

Hope you can find time to come and fly with your buddies.

Barry

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Barry Andersen <ande...@twc.com> wrote:

All, 

The OVSS contest in Cincinnati is coming up, two weeks away, September 18 and 19.

After several discussions with a number of you, I’m putting this out as most likely format for the two days.

Day one, Saturday September 18, AMA ALES, using “short tapes” 50 points, -5 per half meter.  Too easy to get those 50’s with a 6 foot circle;) 

Day two, Sunday September 19, F5J “Lite”.  See the attachment below from rcgroups awhile back.  Exception to the attachment is that standard 150 meter cutoffs will be allowed with 10% penalty (150 meters scored as 165 meters).  Also, the AMA short tapes.  Do note, that moving toward full F5J that you will lose your landing points if you’re over in time.  Maximum time will be 600 seconds, so 10:04 and a 50 landing will be scored as 10 minutes, no landing points. 

Goal both days, 6 rounds minimum.  Drop low score at round 6.

I’d like to transition to full F5J next spring for one day, following a day of ALES as above.  That means you’ll need to get a real F5J readout altimeter and be prepared for mass start, mass landing.  Please let me know your thoughts on full F5J.  

Comments appreciated.  I’ll post this right away on rcgroups.

Barry

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Barry Andersen

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Sep 3, 2021, 4:09:53 PMSep 3
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The details have been posted on rcgroups.  Please view and advise if there are errors or something needs to be added or clarified.  

Hope to see lots of you soaring junkies soon

Barry



Barry Andersen

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Sep 3, 2021, 4:14:21 PMSep 3
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Thanks for the reply.  Check the post in rcgroups.  

You’re correct about the 9:59.  I don’t think it will encourage flying over task time as you lose all landing points. This is the normal method of scoring in F5J.  

Check around again for the limiters.  I believe that they are back in stock in some dealers.  
Johnny Berlin often has one or the other and ships them quickly:  rcb...@consolidated.net

See you soon



Marc Marcum

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Sep 3, 2021, 5:04:10 PMSep 3
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Sounds great Barry. Thanks for the planning. I hope I have a plane ready to fly. Burned up a motor today.😣🙄

Johnny Berlin

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Sep 3, 2021, 6:08:18 PMSep 3
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I sold my stock at the Nat's. I have placed another order however, I do not have a ETA at this time.

 

Johnny

 

 

 

 

Check around again for the limiters.  I believe that they are back in stock in some dealers.  

Johnny Berlin often has one or the other and ships them quickly:  rcb...@consolidated.net

Barry Andersen

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Sep 15, 2021, 11:47:15 AMSep 15
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Weather looks good with temps in the 80s and light wind.  The road to the field is in good condition, any expected rain today, Wednesday, should not effect the road.

Some clarifications about the contest.  Saturday will be AMA ALES using "short tapes".  All other AMA ALES rules will apply.

Sunday will be F5J Lite: this means, ALES limiters will be allowed with a 10% penalty.  Landing tapes will be the ALES short tapes.   All other F5J rules will apply.  Notably, after 4 rounds low round is dropped, at launch, the model must fly straight ahead for 3 seconds.  CD has discretion on landing direction.  It will be announced at the pilots meeting.
F5J matrix is random, it will be scored man-on-man, but not seeded.  Again, F5J rules…...

GliderScore will be used for both contests.  

F5J rules and USA Tour rules can be reviewed at http://www.f5j-usa.com

Should be a great contest, please join us.  



On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Barry Andersen <ande...@twc.com> wrote:

All, 

The OVSS contest in Cincinnati is coming up, two weeks away, September 18 and 19.

After several discussions with a number of you, I’m putting this out as most likely format for the two days.

Day one, Saturday September 18, AMA ALES, using “short tapes” 50 points, -5 per half meter.  Too easy to get those 50’s with a 6 foot circle;) 

Day two, Sunday September 19, F5J “Lite”.  See the attachment below from rcgroups awhile back.  Exception to the attachment is that standard 150 meter cutoffs will be allowed with 10% penalty (150 meters scored as 165 meters).  Also, the AMA short tapes.  Do note, that moving toward full F5J that you will lose your landing points if you’re over in time.  Maximum time will be 600 seconds, so 10:04 and a 50 landing will be scored as 10 minutes, no landing points. 

Goal both days, 6 rounds minimum.  Drop low score at round 6.

I’d like to transition to full F5J next spring for one day, following a day of ALES as above.  That means you’ll need to get a real F5J readout altimeter and be prepared for mass start, mass landing.  Please let me know your thoughts on full F5J.  

Comments appreciated.  I’ll post this right away on rcgroups.

Barry

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On Aug 14, 2021, at 5:07 PM, 'kaytude' via Dayton ARea Thermal Soarers <dayton...@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Ron and I are planning on flying at OWW Sunday around 9:30ish. Could be sooner could be later. Get some fine tuning in on the planes before the NATS. 

  Gilbert 


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kaytude

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Sep 15, 2021, 12:56:23 PMSep 15
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I thought you said in a previous email we were not doing the drop. I may be wrong, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken. 

  Gilbert 

  



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Barry Andersen

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Hi Ron,

Very glad to hear you’re coming.  ALES launch height will be our usual 150 meters.  Sorry to not include that earlier. 

B



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Barry

    Looking forward to flying with you on Saturday.  Have you selected the launch height for Ales?

Thanks 

Ron Smith

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Barry Andersen

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Anyone know what flying site for tomorrow? Main big NATS site or the south site by the airport?

See you tomorrow

Barry


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Big NATS site 5

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Barry Andersen

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Main site, site 5 NATS central...
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Jerry Shape

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I'm sure its the same as the NATS 
 
 
 
 
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