What good (use) are file tags?

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Sherry Lake

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Aug 29, 2017, 4:51:04 PM8/29/17
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Who can give me a use case for using file tags?

I can't search for tags or sort based on tags.

I see tags being very useful in a dataset with "lots" of file, but being able to search for specific ones would be even more useful.

Because of the flat structure of files (no hierarchy at this time), I have a researcher using tags to represent "directories". But once tagged, one cannot gather all the files with the same tag together.

Thoughts?

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Sherry Lake

  

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Janet McDougall - Australian Data Archive

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Aug 29, 2017, 6:24:06 PM8/29/17
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Yes we have had the same discussion over file tags. Is there anticipation that they may be utilised for searching at a later date?
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Philip Durbin

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Aug 29, 2017, 9:12:25 PM8/29/17
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It is possible to search file tags but there is no UI for it.

Here's a search for "fileTags:Code" in the UI: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard?q=fileTags%3ACode


If someone would like to create a GitHub issue to build a UI, that would be great. I imagine we would simply add it to the bottom of the Advanced Search page under the "Files" section: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard/search

For more on the history of where the file tags feature came from, please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/303

Sherry, it sounds like your researchers really really want support for a hierarchy of files rather than a flat structure. You might want to mention that they're resorting to using file tags at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2249 . Folks at the community meeting may recall Thomas Leeper's strong pitch for this issue: https://twitter.com/dataverseorg/status/875813833692127232 . That said, we should probably talk about this in a different thread and keep this one focused on file tags.

I'd be happy to read answers to Sherry's original question about file tags. Are people finding them useful? If so, in what use cases?

Thanks,

Phil


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Janet McDougall - Australian Data Archive

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Aug 31, 2017, 11:01:15 PM8/31/17
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hi Phil
I'm in the process of creating a GitHub issue for this.
thanks
Janet


On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 11:12:25 UTC+10, Philip Durbin wrote:
It is possible to search file tags but there is no UI for it.

Here's a search for "fileTags:Code" in the UI: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard?q=fileTags%3ACode


If someone would like to create a GitHub issue to build a UI, that would be great. I imagine we would simply add it to the bottom of the Advanced Search page under the "Files" section: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard/search

For more on the history of where the file tags feature came from, please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/303

Sherry, it sounds like your researchers really really want support for a hierarchy of files rather than a flat structure. You might want to mention that they're resorting to using file tags at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2249 . Folks at the community meeting may recall Thomas Leeper's strong pitch for this issue: https://twitter.com/dataverseorg/status/875813833692127232 . That said, we should probably talk about this in a different thread and keep this one focused on file tags.

I'd be happy to read answers to Sherry's original question about file tags. Are people finding them useful? If so, in what use cases?

Thanks,

Phil
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Janet McDougall - Australian Data Archive <janet.m...@anu.edu.au> wrote:
Hi All
Yes we have had the same discussion over file tags.  Is there anticipation that they may be utilised for searching at a later date?
Thanks
Janet ADA

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Philip Durbin

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On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Janet McDougall - Australian Data Archive <janet.m...@anu.edu.au> wrote:
hi Phil
I'm in the process of creating a GitHub issue for this.
thanks
Janet

On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 11:12:25 UTC+10, Philip Durbin wrote:
It is possible to search file tags but there is no UI for it.

Here's a search for "fileTags:Code" in the UI: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard?q=fileTags%3ACode


If someone would like to create a GitHub issue to build a UI, that would be great. I imagine we would simply add it to the bottom of the Advanced Search page under the "Files" section: https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/harvard/search

For more on the history of where the file tags feature came from, please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/303

Sherry, it sounds like your researchers really really want support for a hierarchy of files rather than a flat structure. You might want to mention that they're resorting to using file tags at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2249 . Folks at the community meeting may recall Thomas Leeper's strong pitch for this issue: https://twitter.com/dataverseorg/status/875813833692127232 . That said, we should probably talk about this in a different thread and keep this one focused on file tags.

I'd be happy to read answers to Sherry's original question about file tags. Are people finding them useful? If so, in what use cases?

Thanks,

Phil
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Janet McDougall - Australian Data Archive <janet.m...@anu.edu.au> wrote:
Hi All
Yes we have had the same discussion over file tags.  Is there anticipation that they may be utilised for searching at a later date?
Thanks
Janet ADA

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Sherry Lake

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Sep 5, 2017, 1:18:44 PM9/5/17
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Thanks, Janet.

I added another use case for needing to search for file tages to the GitHub issue. Phil's suggestion to use "fileTags:Code" to search ONLY works in searches for "Dataverses", it does not work in the "search dataset" box. This is where I think the real use is: searching files within a specific dataset based on tags so those files can be selected (for either download, or editing).
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