In our 4.3 test installation of Dataverse access permissions/roles at the dataverse level seem to be inherited to the dataset level. If you enter into a dataset as admin, and you then go to Edit > Permissions > Dataset, I would expect to see a list of those who are assigned a role for this dataset, most often this would be the role Contributor for the creator of the dataset. But instead I get a list of all roles assigned at the dataverse level within the dataverse in question. For instance all “common” users in the Dataverse are here listed with the Dataset Creator role. Can this inheritance feature be switched off, or is this a bug that will be fixed?
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I know some work went into a "permissions UX" branch at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/tree/2572-permissions-ux but it hasn't been merged and I don't think it changes anything with inheritance. There's some related chatter at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2255Hi Leif,Would you be able to attach a screenshot of what you're looking at? I think this will help us understand. It sounds like at the very least what you see is confusing or at least unexpected so you're welcome to open an issue and upload the screenshot there.Thanks,Phil
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Leif Longva <leif....@uit.no> wrote:
In our 4.3 test installation of Dataverse access permissions/roles at the dataverse level seem to be inherited to the dataset level. If you enter into a dataset as admin, and you then go to Edit > Permissions > Dataset, I would expect to see a list of those who are assigned a role for this dataset, most often this would be the role Contributor for the creator of the dataset. But instead I get a list of all roles assigned at the dataverse level within the dataverse in question. For instance all “common” users in the Dataverse are here listed with the Dataset Creator role. Can this inheritance feature be switched off, or is this a bug that will be fixed?
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Thank you PhilPlease see enclosed, from our 4.2.3 test-version (it is still the same in 4.3) When I, as Dataverse Admin try to look at permissions for a single dataset (at root), all users with various roles in root are listed. Even users with no access to this dataset are listed. Should the list not be limited to those users who have access to do something with the actual dataset?Leif
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I know some work went into a "permissions UX" branch at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/tree/2572-permissions-ux but it hasn't been merged and I don't think it changes anything with inheritance. There's some related chatter at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2255Hi Leif,Would you be able to attach a screenshot of what you're looking at? I think this will help us understand. It sounds like at the very least what you see is confusing or at least unexpected so you're welcome to open an issue and upload the screenshot there.Thanks,Phil
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Leif Longva <leif....@uit.no> wrote:
In our 4.3 test installation of Dataverse access permissions/roles at the dataverse level seem to be inherited to the dataset level. If you enter into a dataset as admin, and you then go to Edit > Permissions > Dataset, I would expect to see a list of those who are assigned a role for this dataset, most often this would be the role Contributor for the creator of the dataset. But instead I get a list of all roles assigned at the dataverse level within the dataverse in question. For instance all “common” users in the Dataverse are here listed with the Dataset Creator role. Can this inheritance feature be switched off, or is this a bug that will be fixed?
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After I read yesterday's email from Sherry Lake, I suddenly understood what Phil had written in this discussion: that there are contributor/curator roles at both the dataverse level and the dataset level – and you can't (easily) see the difference in the permissions view.
It reminded me of the issue that I had raised on the unclear relationship between the Edit Access panel and Users/Groups panel in the dataverse permissions page. I added my "epiphany" as a comment: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2255#issuecomment-221291334
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After I read yesterday's email from Sherry Lake, I suddenly understood what Phil had written in this discussion: that there are contributor/curator roles at both the dataverse level and the dataset level – and you can't (easily) see the difference in the permissions view.
It reminded me of the issue that I had raised on the unclear relationship between the Edit Access panel and Users/Groups panel in the dataverse permissions page. I added my "epiphany" as a comment: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2255#issuecomment-221291334
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Here's the key... in your root dataverse (or any dataverse, really) you can choose whether "common" users are granted the "Contributor" role (the default) or the "Curator" role on the datasets they create within that dataverse. This role is granted on the dataset level. The root dataverse at https://dataverse.harvard.edu is configured the non-default way, which is to say that if a user signs up for an account and creates a dataset in the root dataverse, they get the "Curator" role for the dataset they created. This allows the user to publish their own dataset and manage the permissions on their dataset (things that a "Contributor" can't do).
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Thank you for this really nice overview.I've been trying to get my head around this the whole day (and I think that it started smoking...).
I was actually only looking for a practical solution to have "ManageDatasetPermissions" enabled by default for dataset creators - but not "PublishDataset", e.g. a role somehwere in between "Contributor" and "Curator" (the ones labelled B1 and B2 in the pdf).
I find the use of the different roles here confusing (B1 and B2) - wouldn't the question here rather be, whether creators are allowed to publish the datasets themselves or whether this has to be done by another curator (what I would call a "review process")?Are there any other differences between "Contributor" and "Curator" on dataset level that I have overlooked? (The other options "AddDataverse", "AddDataset", "ViewUnpublishedDataverse" and "ViewUnpublishedDataset" don't seem to make any sense here.)
My use case is the following:- All users should be allowed to create, edit and delete their own datasets (within a given Dataverse).- They should also be allowed to restrict access to their own files themselves.- They should be allowed to change permission to the dataset and the files within (e.g. to work together with collaborators).- They should NOT be allowed to publish themselves.
It seems like I can do that as described here: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5307 (though it seems like new roles and permissions will have to be set for each Dataverse manually, since they don't get inherited from root).
However, I'm wondering what the original intention of B1 and B2 was?
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thanks a lot. I simply wasn't aware of that users could change their own permissions to 'publish' as well.
Seems like I have to rethink the setup that I had in mind. I want it to be as easy as possible for researchers to collaborate on a draft dataset, but still have all items reviewed before publication (to make sure that the access terms are correct and no confidential information are accidently disclosed). If anyone has had similar thoughts, please let me know.
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