Benefits of ORCID Association

[Pedro Luis]

People,

Currently we use integration with the Public ORCID for authentication, but I was asked about the advantages of using the ORCID consortium in Dataverse.

I ask, with the public profile we can use authentication and controlled vocabulary, is that correct? What other possibilities would we have when using ORCID member/supporter credentials that would justify the association?

I believe this is a difficult question to answer, purely strategic, but I would like to know if it really makes a difference.

Pedro Luís

Faculdade de Biblioteconomia e Comunicação

Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul - Brazil

[Julian Gautier]

Hey Pedro. Others in the community who might answer this question better than I can are just coming back from last week's Dataverse Community Meeting, so hopefully others will chime in to correct what I've shared below or add more info.

From what I understand from https://info.orcid.org/ufaqs/what-are-the-differences-between-the-public-and-member-apis, with ORCID member/supporter credentials you can use the member API, which can have more info about ORCID profiles than the public API might. So when a field on the dataset deposit form has been redesigned to suggest names from ORCID's member API, and a depositor starts typing a name, the field might suggest names that it wouldn't if the public API was used. And this might result in depositors more quickly finding the right person and the Dataverse repository including more ORCIDs of authors or other people associated with the datasets.

Hope this helps!

Julian Gautier (he/him)

Product Research Specialist, IQSS

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[Philip Durbin]

If it helps, back when we first added ORCID auth, I was under the false belief that one would have to pay something to use it. Then https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/7025 came along that explained how to use the public API.

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[Julian Gautier]

Ah, hmmm. Pedro it looks like I made assumptions about what you meant when you wrote that you "use integration with the Public ORCID for authentication" and when you asked if it's correct that "with the public profile we can use authentication and controlled vocabulary".

In my reply, I was thinking entirely about the "controlled vocabulary" part of your question, specifically how we can change the dataset deposit form fields to suggest names from the ORCID database:

But Phil, you mentioning "ORCID auth" and the pull request at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/7025 makes me think that there's an aspect of Pedro's questions that I missed entirely, that's about how users create Dataverse accounts by using their ORCID credentials:

[Pedro Luis]

Julian and Philip,

Both of you helped with the clarifications, but I need to be more specific with my questions.

Regarding the controlled vocabulary, it's excellent that it's possible to use the public API. Implementing this feature in the metadata is something for the future in my facilities, but it hasn't been a requirement yet.

Using ORCID as a form of authentication is something I've been doing for some time, and I find the possibility of converting local accounts to access via ORCID credentials very interesting. Again, this is possible with the public API, as I can see the researchers' data when they register on Dataverse, but as an ORCID member, it would be possible to have complete information. It's not impactful, as the information can be entered manually.

The million-dollar question is: what other benefits would I have in Dataverse if I were a member? This question arose because in DSpace, when you're an ORCID member, you can push biographical data to ORCID, push publications to ORCID (Works), and push projects to ORCID (funding).

In summary, there are no unique features in Dataverse that require ORCID membership. Is that correct?

Thank you very much, and I hope to be able to attend the events in person someday and talk to you all.