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Yes, of course, I agree :)
While this is probably more important for software citation, I think having PIDs for individual versions of a dataset is basically a must going forward. How else are you going to have machine-actionable citations. Or, in the word of some obscure working paper on the topic:
Persistent identifiers for datasets must support multiple levels of granularity to support both the
citation of a specific version and/or individual dataset, as well the citation of an unspecified
version of a dataset and/or a collection of primary data.I also think the Zenodo implementation is exactly right in the choices they made on how to do this (i.e. only force version changes on file changes -- similar to what DV does already -- not use suffixes)
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Philip Durbin <philip...@harvard.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the link to the Zenodo article. There was some lively discussion on this topic on the Force11 Software Citation Working Group* mailing list in early April under the thread "Question: Who does DOI versioning well [and doesn't rely on dot suffixing to do it]" but I'm not aware of any plans to change the way Dataverse handles DOIs in the context of versioning.What do you and others from the community think?Phil
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Philipp at UiT <uit.op...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just saw that Zenodo has introduced DOI versioning, cf. https://blogs.openaire.eu/?p=2010.I this something Dataverse is considering?Best,Philipp
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Hi all,
We've had an ongoing discussion here at the Australian Data Archive (ADA) about this. I agree with Sebastian's points, particularly that the end-game here is machine-actionable citations. The DV DOI as it currently stands is NOT machine-actionable as best I can tell - or am I missing something? Although you can reference a dataset through a combination of the DOI and the version number, I think that is sub-optimal - why not just have a DOI assigned to the specific version.
It's problematic for us in terms of our longitudinal and time series datasets, where each new wave of data collected results in a new release (version) - but right now NOT a new DOI. We will be implementing a policy where each release is established as a new dataset, given Dataverse's current versioning approach. This will allow a user can reference the specific release/version of the data - but I think the better option really would be to increment the DOI with each version.
(There is an additional complication when you think about variable metadata - if I change a label or a column name, should these trigger a new version? And a new DOI?)
ADA staff would be happy to contribute to a more detailed discussion if that would be of interest.
Regards,
Steve
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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:47:56 PM UTC+10, Merce wrote:
Yes, of course, I agree :)
While this is probably more important for software citation, I think having PIDs for individual versions of a dataset is basically a must going forward. How else are you going to have machine-actionable citations. Or, in the word of some obscure working paper on the topic:
Persistent identifiers for datasets must support multiple levels of granularity to support both the
citation of a specific version and/or individual dataset, as well the citation of an unspecified
version of a dataset and/or a collection of primary data.I also think the Zenodo implementation is exactly right in the choices they made on how to do this (i.e. only force version changes on file changes -- similar to what DV does already -- not use suffixes)
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Philip Durbin <philip...@harvard.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the link to the Zenodo article. There was some lively discussion on this topic on the Force11 Software Citation Working Group* mailing list in early April under the thread "Question: Who does DOI versioning well [and doesn't rely on dot suffixing to do it]" but I'm not aware of any plans to change the way Dataverse handles DOIs in the context of versioning.
What do you and others from the community think?
Phil
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Philipp at UiT <uit.op...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just saw that Zenodo has introduced DOI versioning, cf. https://blogs.openaire.eu/?p=2010.I this something Dataverse is considering?
Best,Philipp
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