Intel Optane Drive

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Philip Shaw

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Jul 29, 2021, 11:00:11 AM7/29/21
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Good morning. I received a Dell computer with an Intel Optane drive yesterday. Basically, it is a 500GB SSD and a 1TB mechanical drive. I am not sure if they are supposed to act like a fusion drive on a Mac but the SSD shows nothing in the main data folder and a raw recovery produced only six bogus mp3 files. The 1TB drive says it has bitlocker and the PC3K allows me to decrypt it without a password. There is a folder structure but it is missing the most important folders like Desktop, Documents, Pictures, and Downloads. A raw recovery produced a number of pictures but few of any value. Some of the pictures were over 1MB so I am guessing these drives aren't in a RAID0 configuration. Has anybody worked on one of these drives?

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Jul 29, 2021, 12:08:34 PM7/29/21
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See below. It looks like it is very similar to a Fusion drive with the SSD being the ‘controller’ of where the data is stored. You might be able to mount both of these drives in your system and run Optane software to mount it. I have no idea if that would work. Hopefully someone may have had experience of these and can chip in. We may have to wait for UFS to develop a solution.

 

I would be very interested to have a look at it if you cannot work it out. As its NTFS at least it makes it easier to work out that HFS/APFS.

 

Question: What are the benefits of Optane Memory?
Answer: Intel Optane is a large cache file location for your spindle type hard drive. Working in line with this hard drive, the Optane device will save and intercept file requests for the most often requested files on the system. Typically, this would be Windows kernel files but, will also save things like Microsoft Office, Quicken, and other application information and drivers.

When the system requests information from the hard drive, it requests it by an address, this information is passed along the chain to the Optane drive and if the Optane has the requested information, it will serve it up as requested allowing the hard drive additional time to work on what is next in line. Also, when writing files to the disk, they will go to the Optane drive and will stay in a buffer state, allowing the hard drive to write the information when timing is better. If a file is being written and a read request comes along, the hard drive will simply stop writing, read the requested data and the continue with the write when possible. Since one of the largest performance impacts on a spindle drive is the seek time, this caching process eliminates some of the largest performance hits by allowing the hard drive to skip reading some info and allowing more time to write the information to the disk.

Optane drives are like Hybrid hard drives in that they will have a spindle hard drive with an associated flash memory card. The included flash memory is faster than the hard drive but, still on the controller's hard drive management bus. The Optane drive is larger, and faster as it has direct access to the processor as it is mounted on the motherboard.

While this may seem like a minimal gain, this technology was designed for medium and large businesses.

With a large lot of systems is being purchased, this allows them to select a larger spindle drive paired with Optane memory at a much lower cost, allowing for Hybrid Hard Drive like performance, without the additional cost. Since the Optane drive is a smaller higher performance option with a long lifespan, the hard drive can even be replaced with another spindle drive and an operating system reinstallation can be completed and use the Optane acceleration on the replacement spindle drive.

This method of deployment allows a larger order to save thousands while maintaining higher performance and versatility on the devices allow for better productivity from the systems.

 

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Jul 29, 2021, 5:49:25 PM7/29/21
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UFS already have an Optane solution in ver 8.16:

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Good to know.

 

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Philip Shaw

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Jul 29, 2021, 6:30:58 PM7/29/21
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Wow, that's great news. I have UFS Pro already but it says the update isn't covered. Any idea how much they are going to stick me for?

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LarrySabo

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Jul 29, 2021, 8:09:35 PM7/29/21
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I paid $383.40 CAD for my license update to 8.17, which is about $310 USD.

Fraser Corrance

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Just take the hard drive portion of the Optane drive and scan it with any logical data recovery tool. The file system should be easily detectable. The SSD is not needed to recover the data.

Fraser Corrance

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Aug 24, 2021, 5:35:38 PM8/24/21
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I originally thought the same and assumed they SSD was needed for recovery as in the case with the Fusion drive. That is not the case with any Optane drive I have seen so far. 

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https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?t=38091&p=291530

 

It is different to Fusion. Fusion stores the entire file system and commonly accessed files on the SSD, so if you don’t get the SSD back, then RAW from the HDD is the best you can do. With Optane it does not store the file system on the SSD but it does store some data, again commonly accessed files or programs.

 

You might have been lucky in that only programs were stored on the SSD and not real data. I have seen (or heard of) a few and scanning just the HDD did have big chunks of data missing (some user profile data). But UFS did not see the combination as Optane either.

 

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I originally thought the same and assumed they SSD was needed for recovery as in the case with the Fusion drive. That is not the case with any Optane drive I have seen so far. 

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-7 Fraser Corrance wrote:

Just take the hard drive portion of the Optane drive and scan it with any logical data recovery tool. The file system should be easily detectable. The SSD is not needed to recover the data.

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 5:09:35 PM UTC-7 LarrySabo wrote:

I paid $383.40 CAD for my license update to 8.17, which is about $310 USD.

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 6:30:58 PM UTC-4 Philip Shaw wrote:

Wow, that's great news. I have UFS Pro already but it says the update isn't covered. Any idea how much they are going to stick me for?

 

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