Can be transferred from donor to patient hard drive

[Hien Nguyen]

Heads can be transferred from donor to patient hard drive is attached below. Image 1. HDD  patien; Image 2. HDD Donor.

[Hien Nguyen]

Thank you for all comments

[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

WD3003FYYS-02B1B0 is a fake.

[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

Spelling errors.

On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 3:14:50 AM UTC+10 pbzcbf...@gmail.com wrote:

WD3003FYYS-02B1B0 is a fake.

[Hien Nguyen]

Can you tell me more specifically. My customers said they still use it normally. then there was an error and I checked, the head was damaged. So what's the solution. Thank you

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Spelling errors.

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WD3003FYYS-02B1B0 is a fake.

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[Hien Nguyen]

Sorry. need your support heads HDD donor.  Thanks

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 00:34 Hien Nguyen <nguyenth...@gmail.com> đã viết:

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Please provide a full resource dump. 

Module 0xC5 should contain the real family name, although this could have been hacked.

Show us both sides of the PCB. What is the PCB part number? The date codes on the ICs can also tell us a lot.

[Hien Nguyen]

I can only backup Rom on HDD patient. I attach below. Thanks

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2060-771822 is the PCB part number.

Possible candidates ...

https://www.hdd-parts.com/nsearch.html#search/q=2060-771822

Please show us the other side of the PCB.

This is the ROM:

Analysing ROM_WD3003FYYS-02B1B0.bin ...

Searching for LDSCs and verifying PCMBlocks ...

LDSC   LDSC    Att   PCMBlock          RAM         size      PCMBlk CS
Start  ID CS        Start -  End     address     RAM / ROM    Exp/Act
-----  -- --   --   -----   -----   --------   ------ -----  ---------
    0  5A 75   04      20 -   FA1       1000      F80   F80  755E 755E   OK
 1000  01 FC   04    1120 -  37C4      12498     26A4  26A4    67   67   OK
 1020  02 90   0C    37C5 -  3DA5   88800000      5E0   5E0    94   94   OK
 1040  03 87   01    3DA6 -  BF86          0 c   A684  81E0    44   44   OK
 1060  04 F5   01    BF87 -  C6AB      116E4 c    99C   724    6F   6F   OK
 1080  05 63   03    C6AC -  C8C4      80320 c    2D4   218    D6   D6   OK
 10A0  06 AE   03    C8C5 -  CB99   1017F800 c    594   2D4    5B   5B   OK
 10C0  07 49   01    CB9A - 269C2   101E7000 c  22AD0 19E28    10   10   OK
 10E0  08 AA   01   269C3 - 43D03   10000230 c  2CF80 1D340    84   84   OK
81000  01 FC   04   81120 - 837C4      12498     26A4  26A4    67   67   OK
81020  02 90   0C   837C5 - 83DA5   88800000      5E0   5E0    94   94   OK
81040  03 87   01   83DA6 - 8BF86          0 c   A684  81E0    44   44   OK
81060  04 F5   01   8BF87 - 8C6AB      116E4 c    99C   724    6F   6F   OK
81080  05 63   03   8C6AC - 8C8C4      80320 c    2D4   218    D6   D6   OK
810A0  06 AE   03   8C8C5 - 8CB99   1017F800 c    594   2D4    5B   5B   OK
810C0  07 49   01   8CB9A - A69C2   101E7000 c  22AD0 19E28    10   10   OK
810E0  08 AA   01   A69C3 - C3D03   10000230 c  2CF80 1D340    84   84   OK

LDSC   = PM Loader Config String (32 bytes)
ID     = ID byte of LDSC (byte #0)
CS     = Checksum byte or word
Att    = Attributes
PCMBlk = Program Code Memory Block
Exp    = Expected checksum for PCMBLock
Act    = Actual checksum for PCMBLock
c      = compressed PCMBlock
size   = size of decompressed (in RAM) and compressed (in ROM) PCMBlock in bytes


ROYL directory module 0x000B found at 0x7FADE

Active directory flag = 0x03

Identifying SA regions ...

Reg#    Reg size     Reg loc
----  ----------  ----------
0x00  0x0005A000  0x00000000
0x01  0x0005A000  0x00078000
0x02  0x0005A000  0x000F0000
0x03  0x0005A000  0x00168000
0x04  0x0005A000  0x001E0000
0x05  0x0005A000  0x00258000
0x06  0x0005A000  0x002D0000
0x07  0x0005A000  0x00348000

Verifying ROYL modules ...

 ID          Size (bytes)         Address    Checksum
 dir   hdr        dir       hdr
----  ----   --------  --------   --------   --------
0001  N/A    00003000  N/A        00041790             N/A
000A  OK     0000004E  00000200   0007F000   00000000  OK
000B  OK     00000129  00000200   0007FADE   00000000  OK
020B  OK     00000129  00000200   0007EADE   00000000  OK
0030  OK     00000400  OK         000FF000   00000000  OK
0047  OK     00000600  OK         0007F4DE   00000000  OK
000D  OK     00000090  00000200   0007F04E   00000000  OK
004F  OK     00000400  OK         0007F0DE   00000000  OK
005D  OK     00001000  OK         00080000   00000000  OK

ROYL directory module 0x020B found at 0x7EADE

Active directory flag = 0x02

Identifying SA regions ...

Reg#    Reg size     Reg loc
----  ----------  ----------
0x00  0x0005A000  0x00000000
0x01  0x0005A000  0x00078000
0x02  0x0005A000  0x000F0000
0x03  0x0005A000  0x00168000
0x04  0x0005A000  0x001E0000
0x05  0x0005A000  0x00258000
0x06  0x0005A000  0x002D0000
0x07  0x0005A000  0x00348000

Verifying ROYL modules ...

 ID          Size (bytes)         Address    Checksum
 dir   hdr        dir       hdr
----  ----   --------  --------   --------   --------
0001  N/A    00003000  N/A        000591A0             N/A
000A  OK     0000004E  00000200   0007E000   00000000  OK
000B  OK     00000129  00000200   0007FADE   00000000  OK
020B  OK     00000129  00000200   0007EADE   00000000  OK
0030  OK     00000400  OK         000FF000   00000000  OK
0047  OK     00000600  OK         0007E4DE   00000000  OK
000D  OK     00000090  00000200   0007E04E   00000000  OK
004F  OK     00000400  OK         0007E0DE   00000000  OK
005D  OK     00001000  OK         00080000   00000000  OK

dir  -  Module ID/Size as reported in directory module (0x20B or 0x0B)
hdr  -  Module ID/Size as reported in module's header
N/A  -  Not Applicable
BAD  -  Module has invalid checksum. This may be due to non-existent module.

ROM modules saved to Flash_00\000Bmods and Flash_00\020Bmods

Active directory is 0x0B

Analysing active 0x0A module ...

Head map checksum (Expected / Actual) = 0x0000 / 0x0000 - OK
Number of heads (physical / in use) = 10/8
Head map #1 = 0x02FE / 0b0000001011111110
Head map #2 = 0x03FF / 0b0000001111111111

DCM = | N | Z Y E U G Z C
      : : : : : : : : : :
      : : : : : : : : : unknown
      : : : : : : : : top VCM
      : : : : : : : ACA
      : : : : : : bottom VCM
      : : : : : HSA
      : : : : media
      : : : preamp
      : : latch
      : base
      spindle motor

Analysing active 0x0D module ...

Firmware Version = 0      
World Wide Name = 50014EE55558309C
Model Number = WD3003FYYS-02B1B0                      
Serial Number =                    

PUIS flag byte is 0x02
PUIS Disabled

Analysing active 0x4F module ...

ROM version = 000700VP

Analysing active 0x47 module ...

Preamp values
-----------
0  06285417
1  05305413
2  062E5512
3  042E4518
4  06306514
5  05305418
6  052E5414
7  042A531C
8  00000000
9  00000000

Microjogs
-------
0  1163
1  10BC
2  11DD
3  10F8
4  11F0
5  10F4
6  11E6
7  1198
8  0A0A
9  0A0A

Head/Media DCM = EY  <-----------------------------------------

[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

Possible candidates at hddsurgery.com.

On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 4:25:02 AM UTC+10 pbzcbf...@gmail.com wrote:

2060-771822 is the PCB part number.

Possible candidates ...

https://www.hdd-parts.com/nsearch.html#search/q=2060-771822

Please show us the other side of the PCB.

This is the ROM:

Analysing ROM_WD3003FYYS-02B1B0.bin ...

ROM version = 000700VP

[Hien Nguyen]

you don't understand what I mean. I now have the replacement PCB. But it's not a PCB error. After confirmation, the Head was damaged. I need to find donor hard drive Head repracment. Thanks

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[jol qwerr]

"Possible candidates ..."

it cant b a wd20...

cuz there is 8 heads in use

and since its refurbished I would say it most likely a wd40....

any barcode on the HDA (on the side)?

also @frank wrote: "Show us both sides of the PCB. What is the PCB part number? The date codes on the ICs can also tell us a lot."

[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

Yes, I know. I think it's a WD3000FYYZ or perhaps a depoped WD4000FYYZ.

[Hien Nguyen]

I opened it and there are 10 heads in use.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 01:35 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

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[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

I understand what you mean. What is the point of trying to find a donor for a WD3003FYYS when the drive obviously isn't a WD3003FYYS? Don't you get it?

[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

Number of heads (physical / in use) = 10/8
Head map #1 = 0x02FE / 0b0000001011111110
Head map #2 = 0x03FF / 0b0000001111111111

[jol qwerr]

The reason im going for wd40 n not wd30

I think there is no point going all the trouble by printing a label just to take a wd30 n make of it another wd30 

thats y i wote for wd40 

my 2c

[Hien Nguyen]

I understand. i think this model is 4TB as you said. Tomorrow I go back to the lab. I will remove the HDA and send you specific pictures.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 01:40 pbzcbf...@gmail.com <pbzcbf...@gmail.com> đã viết:

I understand what you mean. What is the point of trying to find a donor for a WD3003FYYS when the drive obviously isn't a WD3003FYYS? Don't you get it?

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[jol qwerr]

if there is a barcode on the side of the HDA n u got lucky they didnt bother to mess with it

then u have the original sn...

[Hien Nguyen]

Thank you. If what you say is true, will I have to look for the WD4000FYYZ Hard Drive with DCM “V2”?

Or what additional information do I have to send you to give you the correct answer? thanks

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[Hien Nguyen]

Tomorrow I will send specific images of the barcode on the side of the HDA. Can you confirm for me.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 01:50 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

if there is a barcode on the side of the HDA n u got lucky they didnt bother to mess with it

then u have the original sn...

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[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

The DCM in the ROM doesn't match the DCM on the label, even for genuine drives. Instead, it matches the DCM in SA mod 0x02. 

You definitely need a 4TB model because all 5 platters are in use. I suspect that this drive was refurbished and then returned to the field as a 3TB warranty replacement. Someone then faked the label.

This is my fake checker tool. It runs in a CMD window.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230522150548/http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/FreeBasic_W32/WD/wdfakchk.exe

[jol qwerr]

as frank said

the label is fake

the WWN doesnt match

then y do u think u need a V2?

[Hien Nguyen]

if so. It's very difficult for me to choose to buy a hard drive. I have to buy all 4TB codes with DCM: VJ, TJ, V2, T2. Basically need 4 good working ones to replace one after another.

I think this is the 4TB version refurbished to 3TB with 02 defective heads cut out, there are a total of 10 Heads in the refurbished drive as I checked.

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[jol qwerr]

dont worry will get to it...

[Hien Nguyen]

Tomorrow I go back to the lab. I will open and take barcode on the side of the HDA
send you specific pictures.  

Can you identify for me with DCM it is?

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dont worry will get to it...

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[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

Let's first examine the date codes on the ICs and PCB. That will tell us when the drive was manufactured. That may help to narrow down your choices.

Also, if you input the real serial number into WD's warranty checker, that may also tell us the manufacture date and the family. (warranty expiry date = manufacture date + 3 or 5 years + 1 month).

https://support-en.wd.com/app/warrantystatusweb

[Hien Nguyen]

My customer does not have accurate information about this hard drive. 

I would like to send you a photo of the back of the PCB

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[Hien Nguyen]

My customer does not have accurate information about this hard drive. 

I would like to send you a photo of the back of the PCB

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[pbzcbf...@gmail.com]

It looks like the drive was manufactured during or after week 40 of 2013.

• PCB - 3313 - week 33 of 2013
• motor cont - 337 - week 37 of 2013
• 5V TVS diode - 340 - week 40 of 2013 <--
• ROM - 1330 - week 30 of 2013
• MCU - 1326 - week 26 of 2013
• SDRAM - 1339 - week 39 of 2013

[Hien Nguyen]

Thanks. 

I will try to find the WD4000FYYZ hard drive with DCM: VJ, V2, TJ, T2. date Year 2013 and 2014

Example:

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[Hien Nguyen]

And PCB: 

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 10:38 Hien Nguyen <nguyenth...@gmail.com> đã viết:

[Hien Nguyen]

Thanks you verry much! 

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It looks like the drive was manufactured during or after week 40 of 2013.

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[jol qwerr]

no barcode on the side?

[Hien Nguyen]

You wait for me. Today I will open it and send detailed pictures to you

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no barcode on the side?

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[jol qwerr]

the barcode i'm referring 2 u dont need to open the drive its on the side (from the outside of the HDA)

[jol qwerr]

Example

[Hien Nguyen]

I send information

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Example

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[jol qwerr]

wow some1 was absolutely bored n took the time to mess around with that barcode 2

its a fake

[Hien Nguyen]

If so, as I said. The only way is to search for drives with different DCM and replace them for accurate testing.

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wow some1 was absolutely bored n took the time to mess around with that barcode 2

its a fake

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[Hien Nguyen]

I also had success with a Seagate hard drive using this method.

Do you guys have any better ideas? give me some idea. thanks

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[jol qwerr]

from about 200 donor drives (here) i cant seem to find a single drive who has V2 or T2, all of them r TJ or VJ

cant b sure but maybe they dont exist

[Hien Nguyen]

i tried a VJ model but no success

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from about 200 donor drives (here) i cant seem to find a single drive who has V2 or T2, all of them r TJ or VJ

cant b sure but maybe they dont exist

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[Hien Nguyen]

The link is not accessible.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 12:58 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

from about 200 donor drives (here) i cant seem to find a single drive who has V2 or T2, all of them r TJ or VJ

cant b sure but maybe they dont exist

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[jol qwerr]

Can u upload a pic from the label (the donor u have tried)?

[Hien Nguyen]

Yes

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 13:20 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

Can u upload a pic from the label (the donor u have tried)?

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[Hien Nguyen]

or still fake

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 13:23 Hien Nguyen <nguyenth...@gmail.com> đã viết:

[jol qwerr]

whats the HM on this 1?

[Alandata Recovery]

Serial number doesn't match

Lid has 4UY

Bar code has 4UV

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whats the HM on this 1?

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[Hien Nguyen]

Above you said hard drive fake label

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[jol qwerr]

@alandata... both r fake

[jol qwerr]

@Hien whats the HM of the donor u have tried?

[Hien Nguyen]

I'm not in the Lap room, can't check HM yet

Is this really important when the drive I replace is not compatible?

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 14:10 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

@Hien whats the HM of the donor u have tried?

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[jol qwerr]

if the donor HM is 2 3 4....

then it will not work

[jol qwerr]

I've examined 2 similar FW to urs n something doesnt add up

Both r manufactured in late Apr. "2016"

The marking on the PCB suggest that ur drive is manufactured from ww40 yy2013 up to (I would say) ~half 2014

So... either this drive was refurbished by WD n @some point some1 refurbed it again

or it was only refurbed by that some1 n went all the trouble to mess around with everything not leaving any trace to anything

if i go with option 2 then the only way finding a suitable donor will b trial and error n the only thing u know for sure is the HM, preamp n MJ

[Hien Nguyen]

I'm learning more. But I agree with your opinion: “So... either this drive was refurbished by WD n @some point some1 refurbed it again”!

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 23:34 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

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[jol qwerr]

there is another posibility

that this drive was by another company/DR/tech/whatevrr n the PCB isnt native

[Hien Nguyen]

I want to test replacing it with this hard drive. but it costs too much. This is the second hard drive.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 23:39 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

there is another posibility

that this drive was by another company/DR/tech/whatevrr n the PCB isnt native

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You need a drive that is guaranteed to have 5 platters and 10 heads. A 3TB drive would be a gamble, unless the seller could tell you the head map.

[Hien Nguyen]

I checked. and it is exactly 5 platters and 10 Heads. I don't understand why the 3TB drive is like that. The 2 drives I have are the same. Hix

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 23:48 pbzcbf...@gmail.com <pbzcbf...@gmail.com> đã viết:

You need a drive that is guaranteed to have 5 platters and 10 heads. A 3TB drive would be a gamble, unless the seller could tell you the head map.

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[jol qwerr]

y wouldnt u start to bouild up the case step by step?

since there is a posibility that the PCB isnt native

I would have tried to find out if the PCB is native

[Hien Nguyen]

I don't see anything unusual from the PCB. Or it is replaced with rom on another PCB instead of the previous old PCB.

Vào Th 3, 23 thg 7, 2024 lúc 23:56 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

y wouldnt u start to bouild up the case step by step?

since there is a posibility that the PCB isnt native

I would have tried to find out if the PCB is native

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[jol qwerr]

u dont supposed to c anything (if some1 replaced the pcb)

u have to check withe client if he sent it to some1 b4 u got it

[Hien Nguyen]

I received the hard disk in absolutely perfect condition.

Vào Th 4, 24 thg 7, 2024 lúc 00:07 jol qwerr <qjol...@gmail.com> đã viết:

u dont supposed to c anything (if some1 replaced the pcb)

u have to check withe client if he sent it to some1 b4 u got it

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Could  WD4001FAEX-00MJRA0 be another possibility?

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" I checked. and it is exactly 5 platters and 10 Heads. I don't understand why the 3TB drive is like that. The 2 drives I have are the same. Hix"

why a 3tb has 10 heads

because sometimes they build 4tb drives

and in testing find problems

so they disable some heads and sell it as a 3tb

They can also just choose to build 4tb's and sell them as 3's,

Back in the beginning of time...

The OEM i was working for was selling priam 35mb and 70 mb winchester disk drives.

We noticed they seemed to be exactly the same. So we swapped the 70mb rom onto the 35 and reformatted the drive.

Worked fine.

So we paid the lower price and sold them as 70's.

Supplier eventually noticed....

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[jol qwerr]

>I received the hard disk in absolutely perfect condition.<

I dont understand 

1. u got it in a perfect working condition how com its now in this stage?

2. dont u have a backup of the SA?