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Chris Saad
Nov 21, 2007, 6:47:28 AM11/21/07
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Thought you guys might like to see this
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APML.org - The OPML of Attention
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From: Ben Metcalfe <ma...@benmetcalfe.com>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: dataportability.org
To: Chris_K...@idg.com
Cc: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com >
Hi Chris,
This email took a little longer than I expected, and due to my work commitments today I was unable to flesh out all of the points to the extent I would have liked. I'm hoping Chris Saad can chip in and elaborate where necessary.
- what's your involvement consist of?
I'm a platform strategist by trade - I help companies such as MySpace (including their involvement with the OpenSocial initiative) and Orange France Telecom build platforms around their products and services, and once they have them make the most of them in terms of integration etc.
I'm supporting DataPortability.org as someone who can see the value to users, businesses and the developer community in supporting common and open protocols within platforms; to allow the greatest opportunity of data exchange to occur.
I'm also a member of the non-profit APML WorkGroup, which is one of the open standards that forms part of the DP.org stack.
- it's one thing to propose such a stack, from a tactical perspective how
are you intending to make it reality?
A very valid observation. I think there's a number of things we're hoping to work on. The key point, for me, is that value of each of these standards increases exponentially when combined with another. For example OAuth is great, but once two systems have authenticated they then need to be able to do something.
Firstly, we want to continue to evangelize the developer community and the start-up community - because as we see more great cases of adoption the value of also participating and supporting exponentially increases (Metcalfe's Law, no relation). Evangelizing and assisting those who can implement these standards the easiest and fastest - the low hanging fruit - gets us there quickly. In many ways it's a simple sell to smaller companies, who can also use this as a competitive advantage over their competition.
But support needs to occur at all levels of the industry and there is also the genuine desire to work with larger companies who need guidance and assistance with implementing these standards - and for that to occur a collective of knowledgeable individuals is required.
For me, one of the things I hear from medium sized companies is that they hear about this stuff and can see the advantage but have difficulty engaging. They are not a 'fashionable Web2.0 startup' but they are also not a big-brand name either. They may also not have the strategic and technical resources available in house to completely understand how to implement all of this successfully. I see initiatives like DataPortability.org helping to proposition some of the standards in ways that these kinds of companies can work with, and provide the resources they need to achieve success.
- Big vendors like Microsoft seem willing to work with OpenID. What about
the rest of the standards, are there particular barriers (or not) to
adoption or potential interference from vendors.
Well, RSS has really become mainstream, and there are very few content providers who are not offering an RSS in one shape or form.
But that's an obvious one, and there's already some amazing examples of established vendors picking up some of the the more 'emerging' standards in the DP.org stack. For example Newsgator ( http://newsgator.com ), a leading newsreader vendor, has announced it will support APML within the majority of it's product range (Nick Bradbury, founder of Newsgator, post: http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2007/10/feeddemon-netne.html). Bloglines, part of Ask.com parent company IAC has also announced it will launch APML support in bloglines soon.
hCard has really been picked up by a lot of large companies - including AOL (for journal pages) and Google (in Google maps), Apple (in their .Mac webmail and other software), plus many sites now mark up their contact details in hCard.
For me, OAuth is particularly exciting because it solves a very valid concern of sites requesting my username and password of other services in order to exchange data/service with each other. There are already a number of sites that are looking to implement this as it solves that immediate need. Twitter already supports OAuth, and there is some discussion around in the OpenSocial public discussion groups as to how OAuth (or at least parts of it) could be implemented in OpenSocial to solve it's authentication requirements.
- Pretend I am a typical CTO or CIO, who is at least aware of social
networking/Web 2.0 etc. Convince me as to why I need to pay attention to
and support this effort.
The main point I would stress to a board would be that there are a growing number of complimentary services out there that are supporting these open standards and as such it means that you can quickly and easily plug into their offerings and extend your value proposition - especially in areas which are outside of the scope of your own business domain. Given the prevalence of these standards in start-up world, enterprise companies get the benefit of working with more agile and highly innovative companies that can bring additional value to your proposition at a fast rate.
These standards also form either the solution or at least partial solution to a lot of internal and enterprise-to-enterprise data exchange issues - the benefit being you don't need to design a potential solution from scratch, you get the thought-work that's already taken place 'for free'.
In all cases a company also benefits from the fact that code examples and libraries may already exist for the development languages they use and that new and existing staff may already be familiar with these standards - which avoids delays and 'ramping up' cost. Mergers & Acquisitions of start-ups become easier to integrate too as the interfaces may already be there with the systems of the purchasing company.
Finally, and perhaps most important of all, users are beginning to realize that they can expect their data to flow freely between systems that they use. Where value is created in one service that they use, they want to be able to access that in another. The values and behaviours of our customers are maturing to the point where they will select the products and services they use based on the openness to their data. Even if, to begin with, that is only the 'technically minded' individual, those people often have an influence over many others who in turn follow their choices and use the same products and services they do. In a personal setting, that might be the more technically inclined family member or friend within a larger social circle. In a business setting that might a developer or support staff who in turn has the power to implement something that cascades through out the company.
Hope this was useful,
Bests,
Ben
From: Ben Metcalfe <ma...@benmetcalfe.com>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: dataportability.org
To: Chris_K...@idg.com
Cc: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com >
Hi Chris,
This email took a little longer than I expected, and due to my work commitments today I was unable to flesh out all of the points to the extent I would have liked. I'm hoping Chris Saad can chip in and elaborate where necessary.
- what's your involvement consist of?
I'm a platform strategist by trade - I help companies such as MySpace (including their involvement with the OpenSocial initiative) and Orange France Telecom build platforms around their products and services, and once they have them make the most of them in terms of integration etc.
I'm supporting DataPortability.org as someone who can see the value to users, businesses and the developer community in supporting common and open protocols within platforms; to allow the greatest opportunity of data exchange to occur.
I'm also a member of the non-profit APML WorkGroup, which is one of the open standards that forms part of the DP.org stack.
- it's one thing to propose such a stack, from a tactical perspective how
are you intending to make it reality?
A very valid observation. I think there's a number of things we're hoping to work on. The key point, for me, is that value of each of these standards increases exponentially when combined with another. For example OAuth is great, but once two systems have authenticated they then need to be able to do something.
Firstly, we want to continue to evangelize the developer community and the start-up community - because as we see more great cases of adoption the value of also participating and supporting exponentially increases (Metcalfe's Law, no relation). Evangelizing and assisting those who can implement these standards the easiest and fastest - the low hanging fruit - gets us there quickly. In many ways it's a simple sell to smaller companies, who can also use this as a competitive advantage over their competition.
But support needs to occur at all levels of the industry and there is also the genuine desire to work with larger companies who need guidance and assistance with implementing these standards - and for that to occur a collective of knowledgeable individuals is required.
For me, one of the things I hear from medium sized companies is that they hear about this stuff and can see the advantage but have difficulty engaging. They are not a 'fashionable Web2.0 startup' but they are also not a big-brand name either. They may also not have the strategic and technical resources available in house to completely understand how to implement all of this successfully. I see initiatives like DataPortability.org helping to proposition some of the standards in ways that these kinds of companies can work with, and provide the resources they need to achieve success.
- Big vendors like Microsoft seem willing to work with OpenID. What about
the rest of the standards, are there particular barriers (or not) to
adoption or potential interference from vendors.
Well, RSS has really become mainstream, and there are very few content providers who are not offering an RSS in one shape or form.
But that's an obvious one, and there's already some amazing examples of established vendors picking up some of the the more 'emerging' standards in the DP.org stack. For example Newsgator ( http://newsgator.com ), a leading newsreader vendor, has announced it will support APML within the majority of it's product range (Nick Bradbury, founder of Newsgator, post: http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2007/10/feeddemon-netne.html). Bloglines, part of Ask.com parent company IAC has also announced it will launch APML support in bloglines soon.
hCard has really been picked up by a lot of large companies - including AOL (for journal pages) and Google (in Google maps), Apple (in their .Mac webmail and other software), plus many sites now mark up their contact details in hCard.
For me, OAuth is particularly exciting because it solves a very valid concern of sites requesting my username and password of other services in order to exchange data/service with each other. There are already a number of sites that are looking to implement this as it solves that immediate need. Twitter already supports OAuth, and there is some discussion around in the OpenSocial public discussion groups as to how OAuth (or at least parts of it) could be implemented in OpenSocial to solve it's authentication requirements.
- Pretend I am a typical CTO or CIO, who is at least aware of social
networking/Web 2.0 etc. Convince me as to why I need to pay attention to
and support this effort.
The main point I would stress to a board would be that there are a growing number of complimentary services out there that are supporting these open standards and as such it means that you can quickly and easily plug into their offerings and extend your value proposition - especially in areas which are outside of the scope of your own business domain. Given the prevalence of these standards in start-up world, enterprise companies get the benefit of working with more agile and highly innovative companies that can bring additional value to your proposition at a fast rate.
These standards also form either the solution or at least partial solution to a lot of internal and enterprise-to-enterprise data exchange issues - the benefit being you don't need to design a potential solution from scratch, you get the thought-work that's already taken place 'for free'.
In all cases a company also benefits from the fact that code examples and libraries may already exist for the development languages they use and that new and existing staff may already be familiar with these standards - which avoids delays and 'ramping up' cost. Mergers & Acquisitions of start-ups become easier to integrate too as the interfaces may already be there with the systems of the purchasing company.
Finally, and perhaps most important of all, users are beginning to realize that they can expect their data to flow freely between systems that they use. Where value is created in one service that they use, they want to be able to access that in another. The values and behaviours of our customers are maturing to the point where they will select the products and services they use based on the openness to their data. Even if, to begin with, that is only the 'technically minded' individual, those people often have an influence over many others who in turn follow their choices and use the same products and services they do. In a personal setting, that might be the more technically inclined family member or friend within a larger social circle. In a business setting that might a developer or support staff who in turn has the power to implement something that cascades through out the company.
Hope this was useful,
Bests,
Ben
On Nov 20, 2007 9:05 AM, <Chris_K...@idg.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
If you want to reply by e-mail, that'd be fine in the interest of time and
your availabilty.
Here are some questions
- what's your involvement consist of?
- it's one thing to propose such a stack, from a tactical perspective how
are you intending to make it reality?
- Big vendors like Microsoft seem willing to work with OpenID. What about
the rest of the standards, are there particular barriers (or not) to
adoption or potential interference from vendors.
- Pretend I am a typical CTO or CIO, who is at least aware of social
networking/Web 2.0 etc. Convince me as to why I need to pay attention to
and support this effort.
Best, and thanks,
Chris Kanaracus
11/20/2007 11:45
"Ben Metcalfe"
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.com> To
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Metcalfe cc
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il.com> Subject
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AM
Please respond to
mail@benmetcalfe.
com
Hi Chris,
Sounds great. Yes, Chris is in Brisbane so on some weird timezone. I'm sure
he'll ping you as soon as he gets your message - I just wanted to make sure
you were talking to him too as he's really the original instigator of all
this.
Do you want to send over some questions, which I can take via email?
Otherwise I can do a short call today (prob post-lunch, I'm on PST).
Let me know what might work best.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris_K...@idg.com
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:09:12
To:ma...@benmetcalfe.com
Subject: Re: dataportability.org
Hi Ben,
Thanks for getting back to me.
Yes, I have reached out to Chris, waiting to hear back. I see he's based in
Brisbane, so its about 3 a.m. there. I contacted a few other folks as
well.
I'm taking the straightest possible angle: Why do you guys want to make
this happen, here's what the proposed stack looks like, what are the
challenges, and importantly, why should enterprise users and developers
take notice or care?
Chris
"Ben Metcalfe"
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.com> To
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Metcalfe cc
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AM
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mail@benmetcalfe.
com
Sure
What's the angle of the piece? Also, have you contacted Chris Saad, chair
of the DataPortability.org group?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris_K...@idg.com
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:48:13
To:bl...@benmetcalfe.com
Subject: dataportability.org
Hi Ben,
I saw your name listed as a contributor to the dataportability.org effort.
I am interested in writing a story about the project; can we talk or
correspond today?
--
Chris Saad
FaradayMedia.com - For Audiences of One
Particls.com - Are You Paying Attention?
Engagd.com - The Open Attention Platform
Media2.0Workgroup.org - Social, Democratic, Distributed
APML.org - The OPML of Attention
Chris Saad
Nov 21, 2007, 6:48:15 AM11/21/07
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And this
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From: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: dataportability.org
To: Chris_K...@idg.com
From: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: dataportability.org
To: Chris_K...@idg.com
Hi Chris,
Tried to call earlier but missed you - I will answer as much as I can here and happy to talk via Voice whenever we connect.
Replies below.
Thanks for that Chris - It's always great to hear when people get it. We have been getting an amazing response to it so far and we have not even properly announced it yet with any fanfair. Been quite incredable.
I understand the concern here. As far as each standard goes, it will be their respective community and workgroups that will need to promote and support proper implementations and help the larger players play by the rules.
We very much believe in the individual efforts that are going on around each of the individual standards, and DataPortability will never try to invent or re-invent something that already exists.
Getting larger players to adopt these standards is going to be a different challenge again. One of the primary goals of DataPortability is actually to help with the adoption proccess.
It is our hope that by contextualizing and evangalizing these standards as an open 'stack' that creates an end-to-end value proposition for everyone - it helps decision makers understand how it all fits together.
For example 'APML' by itself is a harder sell however APML in context to all the other standards is a real solution to a real problem that exists today - empowering users to bring their social life with them when they sign up to your application.
At the end of the day, however, it will take the medium-sized players who are more nimble to implement things and spoil users, and then bigger players will begin to see the value.
Also if you look closely at the list, you will see people who work inside MySpace, BBC, Dow Jones and others - so perhaps we have quite a bit of big-corporate support already ;)
This came about like most things do. You have a need, you look for a solution and when you find none exists you are forced to create your own.
Our company, Faraday Media, has long championed 'Attention' and the Implicit Web as a critical subject for the next generation of information consumption. It was clear, however, that if you are going to capture people's data for them, you had to do it in an open, standards based way. So we invented APML and it has since taken off.
We are now looking towards the next problem. With so many applications springing up on the web (particularly social networks - but others as well) it is clear that social functionality and personal user data will need to be portable if we are going to have any sort of long term sustainability.
Users want to be able to move from tool to tool, vendor to vendor, community to community, and apply different experiences to the same data/connections.
We also saw a lot of discussion groups springing up for each standard hailing the standard as the solution to the problem - "if only we could work out how to do X". The thing is, though, that other standards usually picked up the slack where others left off. So I felt it was a critical time to put it all in context.
The stack you see there right now is very much 'Version 0.1'. It's the first itteration of the idea. The workgroup is discussing the merits of adding and removing standards as they come up.
We also hope to expand the page to point people to the right community for each standard, develop a reference design for actually implementing these things as a cohesive whole and better highlighting landmark/newsworth events.
We also have some great new people coming into the group which you will see over time.
As a rule, anything I put together or get involved in needs to be open and friendly to the ecosystem. So my answer to 'will you co-operate with...' will always be yes, in any way we can. As long as it does not dilute the message or add un-neccessariy complexity.
I really believe that the reason RSS got so much traction was because it was so Simple. The same needs to be true for the stack and the reference implementations.
Cheers,
Chris
Tried to call earlier but missed you - I will answer as much as I can here and happy to talk via Voice whenever we connect.
Replies below.
On Nov 21, 2007 6:08 AM, < Chris_K...@idg.com> wrote:
Hi Chris,
Thanks for getting back to me! This is a pretty cool effort you've got
going here, the implications of it have been gestating in my head as I've
worked on this and other things. I came across it through James Governor's
blog Monkchips, he linked to it yesterday.
Thanks for that Chris - It's always great to hear when people get it. We have been getting an amazing response to it so far and we have not even properly announced it yet with any fanfair. Been quite incredable.
I think those questions are all pretty applicable to yourself as well.
I would prefer to speak with you on the phone, but if you would rather
respond by e-mail, that's cool.
One area Ben didn't get into in much depth regards potential stumbling
blocks you see.
It seems like the big vendors play well on certain types of standards but
there are always deviations. Look at Microsoft getting into it with
Mozilla over the next ECMAScript.
http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/index.cfm?newsID=10525&pagtype=samechan
And also not playing ball with the folks pushing the service component
architecture and service data architecture standards for SOA.
Microsoft is an obvious target but so is their influence on how people
access the Web.
I don't mean to single them out as the only issue, just as an example.
I understand the concern here. As far as each standard goes, it will be their respective community and workgroups that will need to promote and support proper implementations and help the larger players play by the rules.
We very much believe in the individual efforts that are going on around each of the individual standards, and DataPortability will never try to invent or re-invent something that already exists.
Getting larger players to adopt these standards is going to be a different challenge again. One of the primary goals of DataPortability is actually to help with the adoption proccess.
It is our hope that by contextualizing and evangalizing these standards as an open 'stack' that creates an end-to-end value proposition for everyone - it helps decision makers understand how it all fits together.
For example 'APML' by itself is a harder sell however APML in context to all the other standards is a real solution to a real problem that exists today - empowering users to bring their social life with them when they sign up to your application.
At the end of the day, however, it will take the medium-sized players who are more nimble to implement things and spoil users, and then bigger players will begin to see the value.
Also if you look closely at the list, you will see people who work inside MySpace, BBC, Dow Jones and others - so perhaps we have quite a bit of big-corporate support already ;)
Other questions beyond the ones I asked Ben:
- How'd this idea come about?
This came about like most things do. You have a need, you look for a solution and when you find none exists you are forced to create your own.
Our company, Faraday Media, has long championed 'Attention' and the Implicit Web as a critical subject for the next generation of information consumption. It was clear, however, that if you are going to capture people's data for them, you had to do it in an open, standards based way. So we invented APML and it has since taken off.
We are now looking towards the next problem. With so many applications springing up on the web (particularly social networks - but others as well) it is clear that social functionality and personal user data will need to be portable if we are going to have any sort of long term sustainability.
Users want to be able to move from tool to tool, vendor to vendor, community to community, and apply different experiences to the same data/connections.
We also saw a lot of discussion groups springing up for each standard hailing the standard as the solution to the problem - "if only we could work out how to do X". The thing is, though, that other standards usually picked up the slack where others left off. So I felt it was a critical time to put it all in context.
- Are you happy with the way the stack shapes up now? Is it subject to
change, are there discussions ongoing about whether certain components of
it would or wouldn't work out for the best?
The stack you see there right now is very much 'Version 0.1'. It's the first itteration of the idea. The workgroup is discussing the merits of adding and removing standards as they come up.
We also hope to expand the page to point people to the right community for each standard, develop a reference design for actually implementing these things as a cohesive whole and better highlighting landmark/newsworth events.
We also have some great new people coming into the group which you will see over time.
- Are you interested in working with one of the standards bodies, like
OASIS?
As a rule, anything I put together or get involved in needs to be open and friendly to the ecosystem. So my answer to 'will you co-operate with...' will always be yes, in any way we can. As long as it does not dilute the message or add un-neccessariy complexity.
I really believe that the reason RSS got so much traction was because it was so Simple. The same needs to be true for the stack and the reference implementations.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks again,
"Chris Saad"< chris@faradaymed
ia.com> To
Sent by: Chris_K...@idg.com
chris.saad@gmail . cc
com b...@benmetcalfe.com
Subject
Re: dataportability.org
11/20/2007 02:33
PM
Hi Chris,
Just caught up on your thread with Ben etc - Happy to join in!
Would you like me to answer the same questions or do you have different
questions for me as one of the founders?
Cheers,
Chris
On Nov 21, 2007 12:44 AM, <Chris_K...@idg.com> wrote:
Hi Chris,
I came across dataportability.org and would like to write a story about
your efforts, which look quite interesting. Can we talk today, this
morning
if possible?
Josh Patterson
Nov 21, 2007, 4:16:44 PM11/21/07
to DataPortability
Good stuff, definitely.
Josh
On Nov 21, 6:48 am, "Chris Saad" <chris.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And this
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com>
> Date: Nov 21, 2007 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: dataportability.org
> To: Chris_Kanara...@idg.com
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Tried to call earlier but missed you - I will answer as much as I can here
> and happy to talk via Voice whenever we connect.
>
> Replies below.
>
> > Sent by: Chris_Kanara...@idg.com
> > chris.saad@gmail. cc
> > Engagd.com <http://engagd.com/> - The Open Attention Platform
> > Media2.0Workgroup.org <http://media2.0workgroup.org/> - Social,
> Engagd.com <http://engagd.com/> - The Open Attention Platform
> Media2.0Workgroup.org <http://media2.0workgroup.org/> - Social, Democratic,
Josh
On Nov 21, 6:48 am, "Chris Saad" <chris.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And this
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Saad <ch...@faradaymedia.com>
> Date: Nov 21, 2007 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: dataportability.org
> To: Chris_Kanara...@idg.com
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Tried to call earlier but missed you - I will answer as much as I can here
> and happy to talk via Voice whenever we connect.
>
> Replies below.
>
> On Nov 21, 2007 6:08 AM, < Chris_Kanara...@idg.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
>
> > Thanks for getting back to me! This is a pretty cool effort you've got
> > going here, the implications of it have been gestating in my head as I've
> > worked on this and other things. I came across it through James Governor's
>
> > blog Monkchips, he linked to it yesterday.
>
> Thanks for that Chris - It's always great to hear when people get it. We
> have been getting an amazing response to it so far and we have not even
> properly announced it yet with any fanfair. Been quite incredable.
>
> > I think those questions are all pretty applicable to yourself as well.
>
> > I would prefer to speak with you on the phone, but if you would rather
> > respond by e-mail, that's cool.
>
> > One area Ben didn't get into in much depth regards potential stumbling
> > blocks you see.
>
> > It seems like the big vendors play well on certain types of standards but
> > there are always deviations. Look at Microsoft getting into it with
> > Mozilla over the next ECMAScript.
>
> >http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/index.cfm?newsID=10525&pag...
>
> > Hi Chris,
>
> > Thanks for getting back to me! This is a pretty cool effort you've got
> > going here, the implications of it have been gestating in my head as I've
> > worked on this and other things. I came across it through James Governor's
>
> > blog Monkchips, he linked to it yesterday.
>
> Thanks for that Chris - It's always great to hear when people get it. We
> have been getting an amazing response to it so far and we have not even
> properly announced it yet with any fanfair. Been quite incredable.
>
> > I think those questions are all pretty applicable to yourself as well.
>
> > I would prefer to speak with you on the phone, but if you would rather
> > respond by e-mail, that's cool.
>
> > One area Ben didn't get into in much depth regards potential stumbling
> > blocks you see.
>
> > It seems like the big vendors play well on certain types of standards but
> > there are always deviations. Look at Microsoft getting into it with
> > Mozilla over the next ECMAScript.
>
> > chris.saad@gmail. cc
> > com b...@benmetcalfe.com
> > Subject
> > Re: dataportability.org
> > 11/20/2007 02:33
> > PM
>
> > Hi Chris,
>
> > Just caught up on your thread with Ben etc - Happy to join in!
>
> > Would you like me to answer the same questions or do you have different
> > questions for me as one of the founders?
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Chris
>
> > Subject
> > Re: dataportability.org
> > 11/20/2007 02:33
> > PM
>
> > Hi Chris,
>
> > Just caught up on your thread with Ben etc - Happy to join in!
>
> > Would you like me to answer the same questions or do you have different
> > questions for me as one of the founders?
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Chris
>
> > On Nov 21, 2007 12:44 AM, <Chris_Kanara...@idg.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
>
> > I came across dataportability.org and would like to write a story about
> > your efforts, which look quite interesting. Can we talk today, this
> > morning
> > if possible?
>
> > Best,
>
> > Chris Kanaracus
> > US Correspondent
> > IDG News Service
> > 617-239-7827
>
> > --
> > Chris Saad
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> > I came across dataportability.org and would like to write a story about
> > your efforts, which look quite interesting. Can we talk today, this
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> > if possible?
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Chris Saad
Nov 23, 2007, 1:21:07 AM11/23/07
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Here is the resulting article from this email interview:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/11/21/Group-pushes-open-data-portability-stack_1.html
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Jon Cianciullo
Nov 23, 2007, 10:28:38 AM11/23/07
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Great article.
Chris Saad
Nov 25, 2007, 4:57:28 PM11/25/07
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It has been re-posted on another large(ish) site
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/7B78B4726092DA40CC25739E006D1070
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/7B78B4726092DA40CC25739E006D1070
> On Nov 23, 2007 1:21 AM, Chris Saad <chris.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Here is the resulting article from this email interview:
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