What key deliverables do you want to see and/or contribute to for the DataPortability Project in 2009?
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danielabarbosa
Jan 8, 2009, 1:46:08 AM1/8/09
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During this week's Steering Committee call we discussed putting an
official list of items that the Project wanted to accomplish in 2009.
I was about to just post this on our Steering discussion list - but in
the continued spirit of the project i have decided to post it here
were it really belongs!
We will be discussing the list on our next Steering call (Tuesday
12pmPST open to all)- and i would like to open up the discussion here
as well:
-What would you like to see the DataPortability Project achieve in
2009?
-How would you like to contribute?
Once again our official Mission & Vision for the Project is listed
here: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/SoA0
To catch up on what the Project has been up to in 2008 see our
reports: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/gQMR
If you prefer to send me a private note please send it to:
daniela...@gmail.com
Thanks in advance and we all look forward to a successful 2009!
-daniela
Daniela Barbosa
DataPortability Co-founder and Chairperson
Mobile: 1.415.321.9502
http://www.danielabarbosa.com
www.dataportability.org
official list of items that the Project wanted to accomplish in 2009.
I was about to just post this on our Steering discussion list - but in
the continued spirit of the project i have decided to post it here
were it really belongs!
We will be discussing the list on our next Steering call (Tuesday
12pmPST open to all)- and i would like to open up the discussion here
as well:
-What would you like to see the DataPortability Project achieve in
2009?
-How would you like to contribute?
Once again our official Mission & Vision for the Project is listed
here: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/SoA0
To catch up on what the Project has been up to in 2008 see our
reports: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/gQMR
If you prefer to send me a private note please send it to:
daniela...@gmail.com
Thanks in advance and we all look forward to a successful 2009!
-daniela
Daniela Barbosa
DataPortability Co-founder and Chairperson
Mobile: 1.415.321.9502
http://www.danielabarbosa.com
www.dataportability.org
Steve Repetti
Jan 8, 2009, 9:28:07 AM1/8/09
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The top list of things I would like to see Data Portability accomplish
this year is:
1. Increased visibility
2. Creation of DP "Bill of Rights" for consumers and data stores.
3. DP "Badge" to display on websites indicating what level of
compliance to DP principals the site supports
4. Increased membership of individuals and companies that actually
support the concepts of DP
5. More vocal "calling-out" of DP offenders
-- Steve Repetti
DP Board Member,
CEO/CTO RadwebTech
www.radwebtech.com
On Jan 8, 1:46 am, danielabarbosa <danielaVbarb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> During this week's Steering Committee call we discussed putting an
> official list of items that the Project wanted to accomplish in 2009.
>
> I was about to just post this on our Steering discussion list - but in
> the continued spirit of the project i have decided to post it here
> were it really belongs!
>
> We will be discussing the list on our next Steering call (Tuesday
> 12pmPST open to all)- and i would like to open up the discussion here
> as well:
>
> -What would you like to see the DataPortability Project achieve in
> 2009?
> -How would you like to contribute?
>
> Once again our official Mission & Vision for the Project is listed
> here: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/SoA0
>
> To catch up on what the Project has been up to in 2008 see our
> reports: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/gQMR
>
> If you prefer to send me a private note please send it to:
> danielavbarb...@gmail.com
this year is:
1. Increased visibility
2. Creation of DP "Bill of Rights" for consumers and data stores.
3. DP "Badge" to display on websites indicating what level of
compliance to DP principals the site supports
4. Increased membership of individuals and companies that actually
support the concepts of DP
5. More vocal "calling-out" of DP offenders
-- Steve Repetti
DP Board Member,
CEO/CTO RadwebTech
www.radwebtech.com
On Jan 8, 1:46 am, danielabarbosa <danielaVbarb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> During this week's Steering Committee call we discussed putting an
> official list of items that the Project wanted to accomplish in 2009.
>
> I was about to just post this on our Steering discussion list - but in
> the continued spirit of the project i have decided to post it here
> were it really belongs!
>
> We will be discussing the list on our next Steering call (Tuesday
> 12pmPST open to all)- and i would like to open up the discussion here
> as well:
>
> -What would you like to see the DataPortability Project achieve in
> 2009?
> -How would you like to contribute?
>
> Once again our official Mission & Vision for the Project is listed
> here: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/SoA0
>
> To catch up on what the Project has been up to in 2008 see our
> reports: http://wiki.dataportability.org/x/gQMR
>
> If you prefer to send me a private note please send it to:
jaymyers
Jan 9, 2009, 1:00:07 PM1/9/09
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All,
I would like to see us put forward more "plain-language" documentation
of what Data Portability is, and the benefits of portable concepts and
techniques. If the intent is spreading this to the masses and
increasing membership of individuals and companies, it is important to
realize that the purse strings for most business projects that could
use DP concepts are held by people who often have little technical or
overall understanding of the benefits.
- Jay Myers
DataPortability Volunteer Project Analyst
http://jay.beweep.com
I would like to see us put forward more "plain-language" documentation
of what Data Portability is, and the benefits of portable concepts and
techniques. If the intent is spreading this to the masses and
increasing membership of individuals and companies, it is important to
realize that the purse strings for most business projects that could
use DP concepts are held by people who often have little technical or
overall understanding of the benefits.
- Jay Myers
DataPortability Volunteer Project Analyst
http://jay.beweep.com
Brett McDowell
Jan 9, 2009, 1:33:30 PM1/9/09
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I don't want to discount the value of "principals" or "concepts", but if we are ever going to actually *deliver* data portability we are going to need real, robust, professional assessment programs (certification/accreditation backed-up via trademark license agreements).
DPP as we know it today is not up to the challenge of bringing such programs to market. But what I want to know for 2009 is whether the DPP community has the will to put DPP in a position where it could bring such programs to market.
We don't have to do it all by ourselves, it could be a partnership with another organization who already does this sort of thing (and I say that as both a DPP Steering Committee member and as the E.D. for Liberty Alliance who already does this sort of thing). It doesn't have to be Liberty Alliance, it just has to happen some how, by someone. If others agree with taking this on as a strategic goal in 2009, I will sign-up to the effort.
Thoughts?
DPP as we know it today is not up to the challenge of bringing such programs to market. But what I want to know for 2009 is whether the DPP community has the will to put DPP in a position where it could bring such programs to market.
We don't have to do it all by ourselves, it could be a partnership with another organization who already does this sort of thing (and I say that as both a DPP Steering Committee member and as the E.D. for Liberty Alliance who already does this sort of thing). It doesn't have to be Liberty Alliance, it just has to happen some how, by someone. If others agree with taking this on as a strategic goal in 2009, I will sign-up to the effort.
Thoughts?
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Jan 9, 2009, 3:28:50 PM1/9/09
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Elias Bizannes
Jan 9, 2009, 7:09:28 PM1/9/09
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I agree with Brett about a certification and would like to see something developed there (I've incorporated that below)
My goals are split between "products" and "organisation". Products are what the DataPortability Project 'generates' to create lasting value in our community & world. Organisational goals help us execute our value, as to support our goals, we need a solid backing.
Products (ie, things the worlds see as coming from us)
1) Template EULA and ToS: I think this is a huge thing if we can create a legally tight, concise, and easy to understand way for consumers and vendors to agree to terms of use. Now that we have a formal vision, we can create a 'policy' product which allows companies to comply with it, by recognising what rights people have
2) Data licence: Building on the EULA/ToS work, I believe we should create a licensing scheme that allows people to determine how data about themselves in used in the same way the creative commons works for content.
3) Market reports: I would like us to produce regular research papers that show consumer perceptions, as I believe the Internet sector is influenced highly from the Silicon Valley echo chamber which is an artificial reality. One of the strengths of the DataPortability Project (DPP) is that we have a multi-national team. I would like to extend this by doing actual country specific surveys
4) Assessment tool: I would like to see an API accessible database that assess companies based on what open standards they support and what DPP principles they comply with.
5) Verticals analysis: I would like us to clearly articulate data portability across multiple industries such as health care, publishing, and any others than go beyond the focus to date of social networking. This means assessments of these various industries, what there current state is and what needs to be done to achieve our vision.
Organisation (ie, things we need to strengthen our internal mechanics)
6) Principles: I would like us to create principles derived from our vision that allows people to more tangibly understand what we want to do. For example, "supporting open standards" is a principle. Why? Because our goal is interoperability, and you need standards for that; further we support open standards so as to reduce the costs of transition (no royalties; developer know-how can be reused, etc). This means however, more precise definitions like what exactly constitutes an open standard.
7) Staggered board: I would like us to see elections when they are due post July, to ensure we have a staggered Steering group so that the top voted people get two year terms for continuity and the rest get one year terms.
8) Plenary: I would like us to more formally activate the plenary (which are the people on this mailing list). Currently, the Steering group is the most active governance group, but the plenary can have a lot of influence. This means you can make decisions that impact DPP by simply contributing. I think we need better clarity and drive to bring up this group
9) Communications Action Group: I would like the CAG to get more active and develop a better organisational flow. The group has recently started the official blog which is a good start, but I would like to see more activity and direction from this group that shows a strong presence of the DPP in the community.
10) Legal entity and logo: I would like us to finalise this discussions by mid year at the latest. They possibly are the last remaining organisational issues we have in terms of our "foundations" but they have been lingering for over a year, and have cost us dearly. The sooner we can resolve these issues, the more focus we can put on enhancing the organisation and focusing out product outputs (ie, outward facing, and not inward)
My goals are split between "products" and "organisation". Products are what the DataPortability Project 'generates' to create lasting value in our community & world. Organisational goals help us execute our value, as to support our goals, we need a solid backing.
Products (ie, things the worlds see as coming from us)
1) Template EULA and ToS: I think this is a huge thing if we can create a legally tight, concise, and easy to understand way for consumers and vendors to agree to terms of use. Now that we have a formal vision, we can create a 'policy' product which allows companies to comply with it, by recognising what rights people have
2) Data licence: Building on the EULA/ToS work, I believe we should create a licensing scheme that allows people to determine how data about themselves in used in the same way the creative commons works for content.
3) Market reports: I would like us to produce regular research papers that show consumer perceptions, as I believe the Internet sector is influenced highly from the Silicon Valley echo chamber which is an artificial reality. One of the strengths of the DataPortability Project (DPP) is that we have a multi-national team. I would like to extend this by doing actual country specific surveys
4) Assessment tool: I would like to see an API accessible database that assess companies based on what open standards they support and what DPP principles they comply with.
5) Verticals analysis: I would like us to clearly articulate data portability across multiple industries such as health care, publishing, and any others than go beyond the focus to date of social networking. This means assessments of these various industries, what there current state is and what needs to be done to achieve our vision.
Organisation (ie, things we need to strengthen our internal mechanics)
6) Principles: I would like us to create principles derived from our vision that allows people to more tangibly understand what we want to do. For example, "supporting open standards" is a principle. Why? Because our goal is interoperability, and you need standards for that; further we support open standards so as to reduce the costs of transition (no royalties; developer know-how can be reused, etc). This means however, more precise definitions like what exactly constitutes an open standard.
7) Staggered board: I would like us to see elections when they are due post July, to ensure we have a staggered Steering group so that the top voted people get two year terms for continuity and the rest get one year terms.
8) Plenary: I would like us to more formally activate the plenary (which are the people on this mailing list). Currently, the Steering group is the most active governance group, but the plenary can have a lot of influence. This means you can make decisions that impact DPP by simply contributing. I think we need better clarity and drive to bring up this group
9) Communications Action Group: I would like the CAG to get more active and develop a better organisational flow. The group has recently started the official blog which is a good start, but I would like to see more activity and direction from this group that shows a strong presence of the DPP in the community.
10) Legal entity and logo: I would like us to finalise this discussions by mid year at the latest. They possibly are the last remaining organisational issues we have in terms of our "foundations" but they have been lingering for over a year, and have cost us dearly. The sooner we can resolve these issues, the more focus we can put on enhancing the organisation and focusing out product outputs (ie, outward facing, and not inward)
Elias Bizannes
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Chris Saad
Jan 10, 2009, 2:39:55 AM1/10/09
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Not had a chance to go over the other suggestions - but I like steve's initial list very much
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Steven Greenberg
Jan 11, 2009, 9:10:30 PM1/11/09
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I'm with jamyers and the non-technical part of Encyclopedia Australia (elias). Market reports, marketing docs, thought papers.
Again, I vote *against* technical validation.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Elias Bizannes <elias.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bah! I look after you so you sound more consistent, and all I get is abuse. Sheesh!Just change it from saying he defined open to trying to explain why standards matter.
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Christian Scholz / Tao Takashi (SL)
Jan 12, 2009, 4:47:42 AM1/12/09
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Hi!
I also think technical validation is problematic as was the idea of
creating some best practice document.
I would like to think more about control of data and it would be great
to produce some output in this area, like some categorization of what
sorts of control might be needed and where this metadata should be
used.
That means:
- more visibility / raising awareness
- market research on how much customers understand what we are talking about
- developing better descriptions of why data portability is good for
everbody (users, businesses, ...)
- making clear that also control is important (also cross-network)
- classify what control can mean
What I also think is missing is some sort of place where people from
all those technologies can meet and simply discuss ideas (also
technical ones) and it would be great if we could be a place for this
as well (but making sure we stay neutral regarding technology).
-- Christian
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Steven Greenberg
<gree...@puzzlingevidence.net> wrote:
> I'm with jamyers and the non-technical part of Encyclopedia Australia
> (elias). Market reports, marketing docs, thought papers.
> Again, I vote *against* technical validation.
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Elias Bizannes <elias.b...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Bah! I look after you so you sound more consistent, and all I get is
>> abuse. Sheesh!
>> Just change it from saying he defined open to trying to explain why
>> standards matter.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 10/01/2009, at 6:39 PM, "Chris Saad" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not had a chance to go over the other suggestions - but I like steve's
>> initial list very much
>>
>> Chris Saad
>>
>> JS-Kit . Media 2.0 Workgroup . APML . DataPortability
>> Chat: Google Talk: chris...@gmail.com Skype: chris.saad
>> Contact Me:
--
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http://mrtopf.de/blog
New Podcast: http://datawithoutborders.net
I also think technical validation is problematic as was the idea of
creating some best practice document.
I would like to think more about control of data and it would be great
to produce some output in this area, like some categorization of what
sorts of control might be needed and where this metadata should be
used.
That means:
- more visibility / raising awareness
- market research on how much customers understand what we are talking about
- developing better descriptions of why data portability is good for
everbody (users, businesses, ...)
- making clear that also control is important (also cross-network)
- classify what control can mean
What I also think is missing is some sort of place where people from
all those technologies can meet and simply discuss ideas (also
technical ones) and it would be great if we could be a place for this
as well (but making sure we stay neutral regarding technology).
-- Christian
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Steven Greenberg
<gree...@puzzlingevidence.net> wrote:
> I'm with jamyers and the non-technical part of Encyclopedia Australia
> (elias). Market reports, marketing docs, thought papers.
> Again, I vote *against* technical validation.
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Elias Bizannes <elias.b...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Bah! I look after you so you sound more consistent, and all I get is
>> abuse. Sheesh!
>> Just change it from saying he defined open to trying to explain why
>> standards matter.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 10/01/2009, at 6:39 PM, "Chris Saad" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not had a chance to go over the other suggestions - but I like steve's
>> initial list very much
>>
>> Chris Saad
>>
>> JS-Kit . Media 2.0 Workgroup . APML . DataPortability
>> Contact Me:
Christian Scholz
http://mrtopf.de/blog
New Podcast: http://datawithoutborders.net
J. Trent Adams
Jan 12, 2009, 11:45:23 AM1/12/09
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I think that Elias has a great list that is primarily on target and
reasonably achievable. The notable exception, IMO, is the "Assessment
Tool". I believe we should focus on what Steve G. was calling "Market
reports, marketing docs, thought papers" first.
That being said, I think we need to draw a line in the sand and pick a
couple of items and measure our progress against them. That way we can
call the group a success if we achieve them. Otherwise, we won't have a
way to gauge whether we're accomplishing anything.
I propose that we reserve some time on the Steering telecons remaining
in January to nail down achievable milestones. We can use this list to
generate the ideas, holding moderate debate, and then have a final
discussion and votes for adoption on the calls.
YMMV,
Trent
Elias Bizannes wrote:
> I agree with Brett about a certification and would like to see
> something developed there (I've incorporated that below)
>
> My goals are split between "products" and "organisation". Products are
> what the DataPortability Project 'generates' to create lasting value
> in our community & world. Organisational goals help us execute our
> value, as to support our goals, we need a solid backing.
>
> *Products* (ie, things the worlds see as coming from us)
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reasonably achievable. The notable exception, IMO, is the "Assessment
Tool". I believe we should focus on what Steve G. was calling "Market
reports, marketing docs, thought papers" first.
That being said, I think we need to draw a line in the sand and pick a
couple of items and measure our progress against them. That way we can
call the group a success if we achieve them. Otherwise, we won't have a
way to gauge whether we're accomplishing anything.
I propose that we reserve some time on the Steering telecons remaining
in January to nail down achievable milestones. We can use this list to
generate the ideas, holding moderate debate, and then have a final
discussion and votes for adoption on the calls.
YMMV,
Trent
Elias Bizannes wrote:
> I agree with Brett about a certification and would like to see
> something developed there (I've incorporated that below)
>
> My goals are split between "products" and "organisation". Products are
> what the DataPortability Project 'generates' to create lasting value
> in our community & world. Organisational goals help us execute our
> value, as to support our goals, we need a solid backing.
>
>
> 1) Template EULA and ToS: I think this is a huge thing if we can
> create a legally tight, concise, and easy to understand way for
> consumers and vendors to agree to terms of use. Now that we have a
> formal vision, we can create a 'policy' product which allows companies
> to comply with it, by recognising what rights people have
>
> 2) Data licence: Building on the EULA/ToS work, I believe we should
> create a licensing scheme that allows people to determine how data
> about themselves in used in the same way the creative commons works
> for content.
>
> 3) Market reports: I would like us to produce regular research papers
> that show consumer perceptions, as I believe the Internet sector is
> influenced highly from the Silicon Valley echo chamber which is an
> artificial reality. One of the strengths of the DataPortability
> Project (DPP) is that we have a multi-national team. I would like to
> extend this by doing actual country specific surveys
>
> 4) Assessment tool: I would like to see an API accessible database
> that assess companies based on what open standards they support and
> what DPP principles they comply with.
>
> 5) Verticals analysis: I would like us to clearly articulate data
> portability across multiple industries such as health care,
> publishing, and any others than go beyond the focus to date of social
> networking. This means assessments of these various industries, what
> there current state is and what needs to be done to achieve our vision.
>
> *Organisation (ie, things we need to strengthen our internal mechanics)*
> 1) Template EULA and ToS: I think this is a huge thing if we can
> create a legally tight, concise, and easy to understand way for
> consumers and vendors to agree to terms of use. Now that we have a
> formal vision, we can create a 'policy' product which allows companies
> to comply with it, by recognising what rights people have
>
> 2) Data licence: Building on the EULA/ToS work, I believe we should
> create a licensing scheme that allows people to determine how data
> about themselves in used in the same way the creative commons works
> for content.
>
> 3) Market reports: I would like us to produce regular research papers
> that show consumer perceptions, as I believe the Internet sector is
> influenced highly from the Silicon Valley echo chamber which is an
> artificial reality. One of the strengths of the DataPortability
> Project (DPP) is that we have a multi-national team. I would like to
> extend this by doing actual country specific surveys
>
> 4) Assessment tool: I would like to see an API accessible database
> that assess companies based on what open standards they support and
> what DPP principles they comply with.
>
> 5) Verticals analysis: I would like us to clearly articulate data
> portability across multiple industries such as health care,
> publishing, and any others than go beyond the focus to date of social
> networking. This means assessments of these various industries, what
> there current state is and what needs to be done to achieve our vision.
>
> DataPortability.Org - SiliconBeachAustralia.Org
> Chat: Skype: elias.bizannes
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>
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Brett McDowell
> <em...@brettmcdowell.com <mailto:em...@brettmcdowell.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't want to discount the value of "principals" or "concepts",
> but if we are ever going to actually *deliver* data portability we
> are going to need real, robust, professional assessment programs
> (certification/accreditation backed-up via trademark license
> agreements).
>
> DPP as we know it today is not up to the challenge of bringing
> such programs to market. But what I want to know for 2009 is
> whether the DPP community has the will to put DPP in a position
> where it could bring such programs to market.
>
> We don't have to do it all by ourselves, it could be a partnership
> with another organization who already does this sort of thing (and
> I say that as both a DPP Steering Committee member and as the E.D.
> for Liberty Alliance who already does this sort of thing). It
> doesn't have to be Liberty Alliance, it just has to happen some
> how, by someone. If others agree with taking this on as a
> strategic goal in 2009, I will sign-up to the effort.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Brett McDowell | +1 (413) 652-1248 | Blog
> <http://blog.brettmcdowell.com> | vCard
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Brett McDowell
> <em...@brettmcdowell.com <mailto:em...@brettmcdowell.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't want to discount the value of "principals" or "concepts",
> but if we are ever going to actually *deliver* data portability we
> are going to need real, robust, professional assessment programs
> (certification/accreditation backed-up via trademark license
> agreements).
>
> DPP as we know it today is not up to the challenge of bringing
> such programs to market. But what I want to know for 2009 is
> whether the DPP community has the will to put DPP in a position
> where it could bring such programs to market.
>
> We don't have to do it all by ourselves, it could be a partnership
> with another organization who already does this sort of thing (and
> I say that as both a DPP Steering Committee member and as the E.D.
> for Liberty Alliance who already does this sort of thing). It
> doesn't have to be Liberty Alliance, it just has to happen some
> how, by someone. If others agree with taking this on as a
> strategic goal in 2009, I will sign-up to the effort.
>
> Thoughts?
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> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:00 PM, jaymyers <jmy...@visi.com
> <mailto:jmy...@visi.com>> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> I would like to see us put forward more "plain-language"
> documentation
> of what Data Portability is, and the benefits of portable
> concepts and
> techniques. If the intent is spreading this to the masses and
> increasing membership of individuals and companies, it is
> important to
> realize that the purse strings for most business projects that
> could
> use DP concepts are held by people who often have little
> technical or
> overall understanding of the benefits.
>
> - Jay Myers
> DataPortability Volunteer Project Analyst
> http://jay.beweep.com
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>
>
>
>
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> >
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>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:00 PM, jaymyers <jmy...@visi.com
> <mailto:jmy...@visi.com>> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> I would like to see us put forward more "plain-language"
> documentation
> of what Data Portability is, and the benefits of portable
> concepts and
> techniques. If the intent is spreading this to the masses and
> increasing membership of individuals and companies, it is
> important to
> realize that the purse strings for most business projects that
> could
> use DP concepts are held by people who often have little
> technical or
> overall understanding of the benefits.
>
> - Jay Myers
> DataPortability Volunteer Project Analyst
> http://jay.beweep.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
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Phil Wolff
Jan 13, 2009, 3:00:39 PM1/13/09
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I like Elias' breakdown of deliverables to build into products and
capabilities.
capabilities.
Before going forward, some products I enjoyed in 2008:
- Daniela's bimonthly newsletter
- Public weekly conference calls
- The logo
- The video contributions "What Data Portability Means To Me"
- Technical discussions by engineers
- The blog
- f2f with other dataportability.org people
- speakouts and the speakers bureau
- dataportability.org participation in events like the data sharing
summit and IIW
Things I didn't enjoy in 2008:
- caving in twice to merit-free trademark infringement complaints
- taking a whole year to organize and still be unincorporated
- my not sticking to the diy data portability project
- driving off key influencers and many members
Big trends:
- Open Stack rhetoric (I'll take a little credit for visualizing this
as I sketched the social stack for insiders around the time of the
first data sharing summit) overtaking the personal data portability
meme
- The quiet switch from community standards bodies to de facto interop
protocols (google, myspace, facebook, etc.)
- data portability issues in verticals (health, personal finance, education)
I'm going to weigh in on specific goals after I think about our public
accomplishments, organizational limits, new environmental forces, and
some of our aspirations.
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Brett McDowell
Jan 13, 2009, 3:19:50 PM1/13/09
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I'm not sure we are all talking about the same thing when I see Steve and Christian refer to "technical validation". That means I'm not sure Elias was agreeing with me or not. Let me try again.
I would like to see an organization do the following:
(1) define data portability requirements for data services on the web (to sufficient detail to be "audit-able")
e.g. take the principles to the next level of detail so a site could be assessed to whether they *do* to *don't* comply
(2) launch an accreditation program to ensure that all assessors are qualified (i.e. to do the assessments in a consistent and fair manner) to perform these assessment (this could be a self-assessment program as well, but still backed by commitments made by the sites who assess themselves)
e.g. take the existing Grid Tool project to the next level
(3) certify data service providers as being compliant (or failing them if they are not)
e.g. this might just be collecting and reporting on what comes out of #2 above, but I'd still like to see it tied to TMLA that the site would "lose" if they were later found to be in violation.
I would like to see an organization do the following:
(1) define data portability requirements for data services on the web (to sufficient detail to be "audit-able")
e.g. take the principles to the next level of detail so a site could be assessed to whether they *do* to *don't* comply
(2) launch an accreditation program to ensure that all assessors are qualified (i.e. to do the assessments in a consistent and fair manner) to perform these assessment (this could be a self-assessment program as well, but still backed by commitments made by the sites who assess themselves)
e.g. take the existing Grid Tool project to the next level
(3) certify data service providers as being compliant (or failing them if they are not)
e.g. this might just be collecting and reporting on what comes out of #2 above, but I'd still like to see it tied to TMLA that the site would "lose" if they were later found to be in violation.
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