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TECH-DBUG-digest Friday, November 13 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 147
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In this issue:
DBUG> November 18, 2009 Users Group Meeting at Build Boston
DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
DBUG> Creating 3D models with a simple webcam
DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
DBUG> Squiggle
DBUG> Re: TRANSFER TO ACAD
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> Fwd: DBUG member in the local news!
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> DataCAD on Mac hardware
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:50:30 -0500
From: "Evan H. Shu, FAIA" <eva...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> November 18, 2009 Users Group Meeting at Build Boston
DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
(Check Event Board for Room Location, may be Amphitheater)
Register for Build Boston Trade Show
(Event SA15)at http://www.buildboston.com
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
Host: DATACAD and DBUG
It's hard to believe that nearly twenty-two years have passed since an
enthusiastic group of DataCAD users got together and decided to host
monthly
meetings. Please join us for a retrospective look back, informative
presentations, and a preview of DataCAD X3.
AGENDA
* Welcome
Introductions, Announcements, and Anniversary Cake
* Exploring DataCAD 3D
Having more downtime is giving many of you the opportunity to explore
DataCAD's modeling and rendering capabilities. We'll take a few pages
out
of our Advanced Training Guide to provide the insight you need to put
DataCAD's 3D tools to work.
* Break / Group Photo
We will be taking a group photo to mark this special occasion during
the
break.
* DataCAD X3
The next major upgrade to DataCAD will advance 2D automation by
introducing
view and scale-dependent text, dimensions, and symbols. 3D
enhancements
will facilitate the creation of 2D elevations from models. During
this
presentation, we'll show you how X3 will help you get down to details
via
3D.
Economic Recovery Act: If you are not attending Build Boston, you may
be able
use the Plaza Level (upper level) entrance, without an attendee badge,
from
World Trade Center Avenue to access the Mezzanine Level where the
Amphitheater
(probable location of meeting) is located.
*Note: AIA Members can earn 1.5 CEU credits for attending this DBUG
Meeting,
Directions to Build Boston & Parking Information
Build Boston is at the Seaport World Trade Center, 200 Seaport
Boulevard,
Boston. There is limited indoor parking located directly across the
street from
the World Trade Center in addition to several outdoor lots in the
neighborhood.
For Further Directions to the Seaport World Trade Center Complex
http://www.seaportboston.com/SeaBos/Home/RightPage.asp?PID=7154366
FROM Points West via I-90:
Follow the Massachusetts Turnpike/Interstate 90 East to Exit 25 –
South Boston.
At the top of the ramp, bear left towards Seaport Boulevard. At the
first set of
lights, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take
a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage is located ahead on the right.
FROM Points South via I-93:
Heading northbound on I-93 towards Boston, take Exit 20, which will
be
immediately after Exit 18. Follow the signs to “I-90 East.” Take the
first
tunnel exit to "South Boston.” At the first set of lights at the top
of the
ramp, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take a
right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage will be ahead on the right.
FROM Logan International Airport and Route 1A South:
Follow the signs towards I-90 West - Ted Williams Tunnel. Take the Ted
Williams
Tunnel to Exit 25. At the top of the ramp proceed straight onto B
Street. Follow
B Street to the end and take a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The
Seaport
Boulevard entrance to the Seaport Garage will be on your right.
FROM Points North via I-93:
Heading southbound on Interstate 93 Boston, take Exit 23, Purchase
Street and
move into the left lane. At the top of the ramp, take a left turn onto
the
Evelyn Moakley Bridge/Seaport Boulevard. Follow Seaport Boulevard for
approximately .8 miles, the Seaport Boulevard entrance to the Seaport
Garage
will be on the right, after the Seaport Boulevard/B Street
intersection.
FROM Points West via Storrow Drive:
Take Storrow Drive East to Leverett Circle and follow signs for
Interstate 93
South/Logan Airport. Once on Interstate 93 South, follow directions
from “Points
North”.
From Public Transportation:
From South Station, take the MBTA Silver Line Waterfront (one level
above the
Red Line, one below the food court) to World Trade Center Station.
Take the
stairs/escalators/elevators to the second level and exit onto World
Trade Center
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:26:34 EST
From: SDES...@aol.com
Subject: DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
Dang - I miss you guys.
Have fun !!
David
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com (please use the AOL Email websites are
updated)
www.sargertdesign.com <http://www.sargertdesign.com/> (Being Updated)
http://www.epitomedesign.com/dev/sargert/ Temp Location of Past Work
Website
www.sargertdesign.blogspot.com <http://www.sargertdesign.blogspot.com/
>
(Blogs are current)
www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com <http://www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com/>
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
Check Event Board for Room Location
Register for Build Boston Trade Show (Event Code SA15)
<http://www.buildboston.com/>
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
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From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Subject: Creating 3D models with a simple webcam
Hello folks,
This might interest a few of you:
http://www.physorg.com/news177180374.html
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Squiggle
I think we got it years ago with the CD's. I use it for making a block
symbol in plan, however, along the line JdrDash (one I made myself)
got wiggled instead on the old files. Boy, the mask function is a
lifesaver there. There also used to be a LineType maker macro but it's
included in DC12 or something similar.
>>I'M TRYING TO DOWNLOAD SQUIGGLE FOR DATACAD. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT?
>
> You are probably thinking of the Wiggle Linetype, which is part of the R212 item
> on the Cheap Tricks Ware Network: <http://CheapTricksWare.com>
>
> http://world.std.com/~eshu/ctw/ctwh.htm#markB
>
> R212 (Internet Deliverable)
> Wiggles, Hatch & Wood Linetypes
> A great line type collection that includes 23 linetype favorites, including the
> former individual items R3 Wiggle Linetype, R6 Hatch Linetypes & R43 Infill
> Linetype, R57 Wiggle Line Plus , R149 Wood Wall, R179 Cement Hatch, R180 CSWAVY
> & CSWood & P26 Special Linetypes, and with one easy installation you get 8 items
> ($45 value) for the price of one. $5.00
>
> You can order it at this link:
> http://world.std.com/~eshu/cheap/cheapcc.htm
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: TRANSFER TO ACAD
The PDF needs to be moved to the proper coordinates for AutoCAD and
traced, like Virginia State Plane 83 etc. to get it right. Of course
if it is for a vicinity map just ignore me. Now if you need to move z
all of this becomes much more tedious in DataCAD. AutoCAD really is
better for survey data, and gears, but not so good for architectural
drawings. I still wish you could enter a point in DataCAD in X, Y, and
Z not just X and Y. It's not easy to get z into points, lines, and
polylines in DataCAD. We'll you do have the 3D line, but survey data
usually comes in as 3D points. It looks like you should be able to
connect the dots. Mostly DataCAD is fixated on creating 3d slabs, and
complicated objects, but where is the simple stuff? For a point x,y,
and z and/or n,e, and z would be sufficient. Why have a z base and z
height for a point. Positive and negative numbers would do there and
most are going to be positive unless you live in the dead sea or
somewhere like that.
Most of the time this doesn't matter as the surveyor takes care of
this and this process goes the other direction. Sometimes on hilly
sites the automatic stuff can do some odd things that need fixing on
the Datacad end. Now, why would I need a z base and z height for a 3d
line or 3d point (that's what survey data is, a bunch of 3d points)?
If I need that, I have a slab or a plane but not a line. A line is the
distance between two points. 3 numbers can describe where those points
are in space.
If you will notice Relative Cartesian and Absolute Cartesian have no
z. If it is for a vicinity map I usually just trace it. If I had z, I
would have the tools to fix problems like that a lot easier.
> I've been unsuccessful at figuring this out in ACAD 2000LT or ACAD 2009. I'd l love to know "on forum" how to do it. :-)
> You'll need to open the imported files in Acad and re-insert the images
> there.
>
> Let me know (off-forum) if you need help on it and I can insert them for
> you.
> > I recently completed a build-out for a government agency and I am to provide
> > them with CD's, of course I need to export them as AutoCAD files, my dilemma
> > is that I have a site location map that is a .png image (downloaded from the
> > city's GIS site) and an overall bldg plan that was imported as a .pdf image
> > (from the .pdf drawing file provided), both images are blank on the CD.
>
> > Is there a way and/or is it possible for me to export these images into
> > AutoCAD?
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
- ...I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is
very big in--
Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
Brittany Spears in return.
> ...I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is very
> big in
> America, after eight years it's time to move on to new pastures. Besides,
> our weather is better...
>
> A bit more mainland rain would be nice though.
>
> I suppose a September 11th type event is remarkably complex but it amazes
> me, given it's significance, firstly that sufficient gaps are left in
> explanation of, at least, the science involved for there still to be mystery
> or the potential to suggest mystery. Secondly that anyone expounding mystery
> and alternative explanation wouldn't find the alternative of it being an
> in-house job just too outlandishisly devoid of reason to be worth delving
> too far into.
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From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Subject: DBUG member in the local news!
Hi folks,
Mike Smith is featured in a story in our local paper:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/maynard/news/x2087393642/New-fire-station-waiting-for-funds
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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From: JAID <i...@jaid.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DR retorted:
...Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
Brittany Spears in return...
Murdoch...I do recall a distant connection...so long ago...he's stars
n
stripes forever now. Enjoy.
BS...thanks for that, very kind.
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From: Nick Pyner <npy...@tig.com.au>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
>--I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is
>very big in--
>
>Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
>Brittany Spears in return.
You've got him. He's yours.You must have known what he was like, you
also
must have known that the US was just the place he needed, and you
still let
him in. You deserve everything you get.
And while you are at it, you can have the plastic Britney back too. I
understand she is down here in God'sown right now and is really on the
nose. There is a British knock-off artist who is actually doing a
better
job than the real (?) thing..... :)
Nick Pyner
Dee Why Beach NSW
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~npyner/yadpage.htm
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From: David Bergman <ber...@cyberg.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> DataCAD on Mac hardware
On a somewhat related note, I thought I'd relay the frustrating
experience I had (and the knowledge gained) updating my Macbook
Bootcamp installation of XP to Service Pack 3. When i attempted to
install the update, it told me I had insufficient free space. So I
deleted some extraneous stuff to get to the 4 GB it said was required.
But it still said there was not enough free space. So I deleted more
stuff, which was actually a good occasion to get rid of temp files,
etc. But still no go. Deleted more to the point where I had way more
than the free space it said I didn't have.
So I (finally) googled the error message and. somewhere down the
google results, saw a post about this problem in Mac dual boot
installs. Turned out I had to make a registry change (something about
how it recognizes the XP boot drive -- I will dig it up if anyone
needs it) and then all was fine. Wasted several hours though.
David
DAVID BERGMAN ARCHITECT / FIRE & WATER LIGHTING + FURNITURE
architecture . interiors . ecodesign . lighting . furniture
ber...@cyberg.com www.cyberg.com
241 Eldridge Street #3R, New York, NY 10002
t 212 475 3106 f 212 677 7291
At 01:38 AM 11/10/2009, you wrote:
My last Windows system is dying again (third time) of a virus that got
past
AVG and now several other anti-malware tools. This bugger is better
than
the best guys and software I can throw at it. We just can't find it.
The
station just slowy gets out of control. The mouse seems to be the
symptom
I notice first. It gradually becomes uncontrolable doing eratic
things you
don't expect. It is somewhere, but not where you think it is when you
click. For a while you can figure out it's quirks, then not so much.
Eventually the system doesn't work at all. finding and fixing a myriad
altered files restores normal function for a while.
Anyway, I am really too tired of this. Lots of dollars and two
tries
thoroughly searching and replacing a lot of altered system files
followed
by a week or less of operation while slowly relapsing into chaos
twice, I'm
out of patience. I know it does not have to be like this because we
have
three Os's running here. I would not have bothered even to try to
patch
this station up except this station runs a huge number of
applications and
upgrading and reinstalling it all when a major OS upgrade comes along
is a
big job with real costs that always turn out to be way outside any
reasonable expectations for time complexity and peripheral hardware
implications.
I have lots of very trouble free linux software running and some zero
trouble apple systems here and I think I am finally going to limit the
stuff we use in Windows to just DataCAD and things that absolutely
must run
with it. That at least will make the restoring wrecked windows
systems
simpler and tolerable. Everything else is going into another OS.
I am curious about trying to run DataCAD in a fresh XP environment in
a VM
bottle on one of our Apple systems, I would like to be able to drag
files
to running aps in both OS environments. and I like Apples 24 inch iMac
screens. So, who is successfully running DataCAD on Apple hardware?
Who
is running it on anything else? I want to try this, and I would
really
like to take advantage of your experience, so I can put together the
right
set up. Hardware and Software.
I promise to post everything about the system once I have made all the
unavoidable mistakes fixed them and it is up and running.
I think it makes sense for me to go for the biggest screen I can
afford.
I'm getting older. I have a 24inch iMac which we like a lot, and I
suppose we could buy a new 27 inch iMac or the big Mac aluminum can
and a
30 inch display, but that seems like it might be over shooting my real
needs if the iMacs will work and can spread the screen across a second
monitor I think that two 24s could be the big screen ticket.
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TECH-DBUG-digest Friday, November 13 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 147
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In this issue:
DBUG> November 18, 2009 Users Group Meeting at Build Boston
DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
DBUG> Creating 3D models with a simple webcam
DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
DBUG> Squiggle
DBUG> Re: TRANSFER TO ACAD
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> Fwd: DBUG member in the local news!
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DBUG> DataCAD on Mac hardware
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:50:30 -0500
From: "Evan H. Shu, FAIA" <eva...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> November 18, 2009 Users Group Meeting at Build Boston
DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
(Check Event Board for Room Location, may be Amphitheater)
Register for Build Boston Trade Show
(Event SA15)at http://www.buildboston.com
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
Host: DATACAD and DBUG
It's hard to believe that nearly twenty-two years have passed since an
enthusiastic group of DataCAD users got together and decided to host
monthly
meetings. Please join us for a retrospective look back, informative
presentations, and a preview of DataCAD X3.
AGENDA
* Welcome
Introductions, Announcements, and Anniversary Cake
* Exploring DataCAD 3D
Having more downtime is giving many of you the opportunity to explore
DataCAD's modeling and rendering capabilities. We'll take a few pages
out
of our Advanced Training Guide to provide the insight you need to put
DataCAD's 3D tools to work.
* Break / Group Photo
We will be taking a group photo to mark this special occasion during
the
break.
* DataCAD X3
The next major upgrade to DataCAD will advance 2D automation by
introducing
view and scale-dependent text, dimensions, and symbols. 3D
enhancements
will facilitate the creation of 2D elevations from models. During
this
presentation, we'll show you how X3 will help you get down to details
via
3D.
Economic Recovery Act: If you are not attending Build Boston, you may
be able
use the Plaza Level (upper level) entrance, without an attendee badge,
from
World Trade Center Avenue to access the Mezzanine Level where the
Amphitheater
(probable location of meeting) is located.
*Note: AIA Members can earn 1.5 CEU credits for attending this DBUG
Meeting,
Directions to Build Boston & Parking Information
Build Boston is at the Seaport World Trade Center, 200 Seaport
Boulevard,
Boston. There is limited indoor parking located directly across the
street from
the World Trade Center in addition to several outdoor lots in the
neighborhood.
For Further Directions to the Seaport World Trade Center Complex
http://www.seaportboston.com/SeaBos/Home/RightPage.asp?PID=7154366
FROM Points West via I-90:
Follow the Massachusetts Turnpike/Interstate 90 East to Exit 25 –
South Boston.
At the top of the ramp, bear left towards Seaport Boulevard. At the
first set of
lights, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take
a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage is located ahead on the right.
FROM Points South via I-93:
Heading northbound on I-93 towards Boston, take Exit 20, which will
be
immediately after Exit 18. Follow the signs to “I-90 East.” Take the
first
tunnel exit to "South Boston.” At the first set of lights at the top
of the
ramp, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take a
right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage will be ahead on the right.
FROM Logan International Airport and Route 1A South:
Follow the signs towards I-90 West - Ted Williams Tunnel. Take the Ted
Williams
Tunnel to Exit 25. At the top of the ramp proceed straight onto B
Street. Follow
B Street to the end and take a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The
Seaport
Boulevard entrance to the Seaport Garage will be on your right.
FROM Points North via I-93:
Heading southbound on Interstate 93 Boston, take Exit 23, Purchase
Street and
move into the left lane. At the top of the ramp, take a left turn onto
the
Evelyn Moakley Bridge/Seaport Boulevard. Follow Seaport Boulevard for
approximately .8 miles, the Seaport Boulevard entrance to the Seaport
Garage
will be on the right, after the Seaport Boulevard/B Street
intersection.
FROM Points West via Storrow Drive:
Take Storrow Drive East to Leverett Circle and follow signs for
Interstate 93
South/Logan Airport. Once on Interstate 93 South, follow directions
from “Points
North”.
From Public Transportation:
From South Station, take the MBTA Silver Line Waterfront (one level
above the
Red Line, one below the food court) to World Trade Center Station.
Take the
stairs/escalators/elevators to the second level and exit onto World
Trade Center
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:26:34 EST
From: SDES...@aol.com
Subject: DBUG> DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda at Build Boston
Dang - I miss you guys.
Have fun !!
David
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com (please use the AOL Email websites are
updated)
www.sargertdesign.com <http://www.sargertdesign.com/> (Being Updated)
http://www.epitomedesign.com/dev/sargert/ Temp Location of Past Work
Website
www.sargertdesign.blogspot.com <http://www.sargertdesign.blogspot.com/
>
(Blogs are current)
www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com <http://www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com/>
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
Check Event Board for Room Location
Register for Build Boston Trade Show (Event Code SA15)
<http://www.buildboston.com/>
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
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From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Subject: Creating 3D models with a simple webcam
Hello folks,
This might interest a few of you:
http://www.physorg.com/news177180374.html
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Squiggle
I think we got it years ago with the CD's. I use it for making a block
symbol in plan, however, along the line JdrDash (one I made myself)
got wiggled instead on the old files. Boy, the mask function is a
lifesaver there. There also used to be a LineType maker macro but it's
included in DC12 or something similar.
>>I'M TRYING TO DOWNLOAD SQUIGGLE FOR DATACAD. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT?
>
> You are probably thinking of the Wiggle Linetype, which is part of the R212 item
> on the Cheap Tricks Ware Network: <http://CheapTricksWare.com>
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: TRANSFER TO ACAD
The PDF needs to be moved to the proper coordinates for AutoCAD and
traced, like Virginia State Plane 83 etc. to get it right. Of course
if it is for a vicinity map just ignore me. Now if you need to move z
all of this becomes much more tedious in DataCAD. AutoCAD really is
better for survey data, and gears, but not so good for architectural
drawings. I still wish you could enter a point in DataCAD in X, Y, and
Z not just X and Y. It's not easy to get z into points, lines, and
polylines in DataCAD. We'll you do have the 3D line, but survey data
usually comes in as 3D points. It looks like you should be able to
connect the dots. Mostly DataCAD is fixated on creating 3d slabs, and
complicated objects, but where is the simple stuff? For a point x,y,
and z and/or n,e, and z would be sufficient. Why have a z base and z
height for a point. Positive and negative numbers would do there and
most are going to be positive unless you live in the dead sea or
somewhere like that.
Most of the time this doesn't matter as the surveyor takes care of
this and this process goes the other direction. Sometimes on hilly
sites the automatic stuff can do some odd things that need fixing on
the Datacad end. Now, why would I need a z base and z height for a 3d
line or 3d point (that's what survey data is, a bunch of 3d points)?
If I need that, I have a slab or a plane but not a line. A line is the
distance between two points. 3 numbers can describe where those points
are in space.
If you will notice Relative Cartesian and Absolute Cartesian have no
z. If it is for a vicinity map I usually just trace it. If I had z, I
would have the tools to fix problems like that a lot easier.
> I've been unsuccessful at figuring this out in ACAD 2000LT or ACAD 2009. I'd l love to know "on forum" how to do it. :-)
> You'll need to open the imported files in Acad and re-insert the images
> there.
>
> Let me know (off-forum) if you need help on it and I can insert them for
> you.
> > I recently completed a build-out for a government agency and I am to provide
> > them with CD's, of course I need to export them as AutoCAD files, my dilemma
> > is that I have a site location map that is a .png image (downloaded from the
> > city's GIS site) and an overall bldg plan that was imported as a .pdf image
> > (from the .pdf drawing file provided), both images are blank on the CD.
>
> > Is there a way and/or is it possible for me to export these images into
> > AutoCAD?
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From: David Ramey OVLH <datac...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
- ...I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is
very big in--
Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
Brittany Spears in return.
> ...I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is very
> big in
> America, after eight years it's time to move on to new pastures. Besides,
> our weather is better...
>
> A bit more mainland rain would be nice though.
>
> I suppose a September 11th type event is remarkably complex but it amazes
> me, given it's significance, firstly that sufficient gaps are left in
> explanation of, at least, the science involved for there still to be mystery
> or the potential to suggest mystery. Secondly that anyone expounding mystery
> and alternative explanation wouldn't find the alternative of it being an
> in-house job just too outlandishisly devoid of reason to be worth delving
> too far into.
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From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Subject: DBUG member in the local news!
Hi folks,
Mike Smith is featured in a story in our local paper:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/maynard/news/x2087393642/New-fire-station-waiting-for-funds
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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From: JAID <i...@jaid.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
DR retorted:
...Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
Brittany Spears in return...
Murdoch...I do recall a distant connection...so long ago...he's stars
n
stripes forever now. Enjoy.
BS...thanks for that, very kind.
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From: Nick Pyner <npy...@tig.com.au>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Re: OT: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
>--I guess he is coming because, while the frootloop industry is
>very big in--
>
>Yeah, and you guys sent us one named Murdoch ;) We will give you
>Brittany Spears in return.
You've got him. He's yours.You must have known what he was like, you
also
must have known that the US was just the place he needed, and you
still let
him in. You deserve everything you get.
And while you are at it, you can have the plastic Britney back too. I
understand she is down here in God'sown right now and is really on the
nose. There is a British knock-off artist who is actually doing a
better
job than the real (?) thing..... :)
Nick Pyner
Dee Why Beach NSW
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~npyner/yadpage.htm
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From: David Bergman <ber...@cyberg.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> DataCAD on Mac hardware
On a somewhat related note, I thought I'd relay the frustrating
experience I had (and the knowledge gained) updating my Macbook
Bootcamp installation of XP to Service Pack 3. When i attempted to
install the update, it told me I had insufficient free space. So I
deleted some extraneous stuff to get to the 4 GB it said was required.
But it still said there was not enough free space. So I deleted more
stuff, which was actually a good occasion to get rid of temp files,
etc. But still no go. Deleted more to the point where I had way more
than the free space it said I didn't have.
So I (finally) googled the error message and. somewhere down the
google results, saw a post about this problem in Mac dual boot
installs. Turned out I had to make a registry change (something about
how it recognizes the XP boot drive -- I will dig it up if anyone
needs it) and then all was fine. Wasted several hours though.
David
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At 01:38 AM 11/10/2009, you wrote:
My last Windows system is dying again (third time) of a virus that got
past
AVG and now several other anti-malware tools. This bugger is better
than
the best guys and software I can throw at it. We just can't find it.
The
station just slowy gets out of control. The mouse seems to be the
symptom
I notice first. It gradually becomes uncontrolable doing eratic
things you
don't expect. It is somewhere, but not where you think it is when you
click. For a while you can figure out it's quirks, then not so much.
Eventually the system doesn't work at all. finding and fixing a myriad
altered files restores normal function for a while.
Anyway, I am really too tired of this. Lots of dollars and two
tries
thoroughly searching and replacing a lot of altered system files
followed
by a week or less of operation while slowly relapsing into chaos
twice, I'm
out of patience. I know it does not have to be like this because we
have
three Os's running here. I would not have bothered even to try to
patch
this station up except this station runs a huge number of
applications and
upgrading and reinstalling it all when a major OS upgrade comes along
is a
big job with real costs that always turn out to be way outside any
reasonable expectations for time complexity and peripheral hardware
implications.
I have lots of very trouble free linux software running and some zero
trouble apple systems here and I think I am finally going to limit the
stuff we use in Windows to just DataCAD and things that absolutely
must run
with it. That at least will make the restoring wrecked windows
systems
simpler and tolerable. Everything else is going into another OS.
I am curious about trying to run DataCAD in a fresh XP environment in
a VM
bottle on one of our Apple systems, I would like to be able to drag
files
to running aps in both OS environments. and I like Apples 24 inch iMac
screens. So, who is successfully running DataCAD on Apple hardware?
Who
is running it on anything else? I want to try this, and I would
really
like to take advantage of your experience, so I can put together the
right
set up. Hardware and Software.
I promise to post everything about the system once I have made all the
unavoidable mistakes fixed them and it is up and running.
I think it makes sense for me to go for the biggest screen I can
afford.
I'm getting older. I have a 24inch iMac which we like a lot, and I
suppose we could buy a new 27 inch iMac or the big Mac aluminum can
and a
30 inch display, but that seems like it might be over shooting my real
needs if the iMacs will work and can spread the screen across a second
monitor I think that two 24s could be the big screen ticket.
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