TECH-DBUG Digest Monday, December 31 V2018 #020

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Date: Mon, 31 December 2018 23:00:00 -0500
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Subject: TECH-DBUG Digest Monday, December 31 V2018 #020

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datacad-dbug-digest Monday, December 31 2018  Volume 2018:No 020

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  DBUG› WAY OFF TOPIC - Sr. CFO Position in SC
  DBUG> Modular Mini Homes
  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
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  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
  DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
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DBUG› WAY OFF TOPIC - Sr. CFO Position in SC
From: David Sargert
Date: 12/12/18


Greetings,

I was approached by a colleague (we worked together at Dos Brisas Resorts) about an open position they have for their 20,000 Acre Resort Facility in SC. It is a very Sr level position overseeing the entire facilities staff of 800+.  I would take this in a heartbeat if I was not entrenched in TX and getting ready to start our new family venture. 

I am happy to make personal introductions if anyone is interested:


David 
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David K. Sargert, LEED AP
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DBUG> Modular Mini Homes
From: Neil Blanchard
Date: 12/27/18


This was an interesting report on Morning Edition this morning: 


What do you think? 


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Sincerely, Neil 


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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: David Sargert
Date: 12/26/18


Happy Christmas +1. I hope you all had a wonderful day. 
We are visiting our grandkids in N.TX and I toured a 1919 Renovation project my son-in-law (GC) is doing and noticed a framing technique I don't remember encountering before. Second floor joists are full 1x12 at 20' (Brick ledge,Beam,Brick ledge) with an interesting application of 1x4 breaking each span in half from crown to heel of each joist at bridging . I can only assume this was a way to address deflection on these undersized members. Pretty clever . 

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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: David Sargert
Date: 12/26/18

Take a look BEHIND the bridging ON the joists. 
Check out  the 1x4s that form a "V" ON the 2x12s........all the joists have this the full length of the structure each side of the center beam. 

I obviously was not clear about the additional members (NOT the cross-bridging) I noticed.
In 40+ years of Historic Restoration in many regions, this was a first and frankly, pretty impressive.

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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: Nick Pyner
Date: 12/27/18

Herringbone struts. Prevents twisting and also transfers some of the load to the neighbouring joist.

Nick Pyner

Dee Why Beach  NSW


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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: Robert Scott <scottreside...@gmail.com>
Date: 12/26/18

NOW I see it!   Interesting...I've never seen this before.  
Might be a carpenter creating a site built "truss" to prevent deflection.  
How was it working?  

It will be interesting to see if James Horecka has some insight...

Bob


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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: Neil Blanchard
Date: 12/28/18


Ah - I saw that, but I misunderstood your post.  It does look like they "arched" the top chord, to add some strength; but I wonder if a bottom chord wouldn't have added more strength for the size of the material?
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Sincerely, Neil

 


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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: Nick Pyner
Date: 12/28/18


Now I see the extra bits too. God only knows what they are about. They appear to be diagonal across the joists. If it was for extra counter to deflection I would have thought they would be better employed just the bottom. I have never been impressed by the load-sharing idea. You can see rough cut, and split timber. I guess people had more faith in nails in those days.

Nick Pyner

Dee Why Beach   NSW

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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: David Sargert
Date: 12/28/18

Thanks for the input!

Yes this was a High Plains solution to undersized lumber. Yesterday we jacked the center beams of the structure level and repaired a few brick joist pockets . "0" to 2" were the worst areas In 99 years . Each (2x14 actually ) joist still has a "belly" of appx 3/4" over 24ft. Not great.

From  Pontiac Dealership to Railroad Medical Center to Employee housing for the Grand Hotel here to Vacant/ Crack house and now back to Apartments.........floors have stories.


David K. Sargert, LEED AP 


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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: DwightB
Date: 12/28/18


Looks like an applied 1x4 to imitate a truss effect.

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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: Mark Wilhelm


Looks like it might have been a later attempt to repair when problems were detected.  Can't believe it was very effective, whether original or a repair.

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DBUG> Off topic , old school framing technique,share worthy
From: James Horecka
Date: 12/31/2018


Whacky.

Yeah, kids, don't try this at home.

James Horecka, AIA

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