TECH-DBUG Digest Friday, August 31 V2018 #014

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datacad-dbug-digest Friday, August 31 2018  Volume 2018:No 014

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  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
  DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement   
  DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
  DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
  DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
  DBUG> Meeting Agenda for September 12th DBUG Meeting in Maynard

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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 17 2018
From: David Sargert


Depends on how you use it. There are many new useful features in Ver 20
__________________________
David K. Sargert, LEED AP


>>> From: "Nyc" <vk3...@gmail.com>
Was just wondering if there is really much missing between DC-LT and the full DC?
Currently use DC11 and think it may be time to upgrade.
>>>

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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 17 2018
From: Neil Blanchard

Well, the jump from DataCAD 11 LT to DataCAD 20 will bring a lot of new 
features - to many to list, I think. 


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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 17 2018
From: Neil Blanchard

Hi Nyc,

Right - I have not looked at LT - here's a comparison chart:


The biggest thing I would miss for 2D in LT is XRef's.  

On 8/16/2018 9:38 PM, Nyc O'Halloran wrote:
Currently DC11 full, thinking about DC20 LT (I’ll be buying it myself rather than company) I mainly do 2d stuff
   Thank you for your prompt reply with this matter,


Sincerely, Neil

 


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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 17 2018
From: Clayton Taylor

To all,

I’ve always thought DC-LT could have been better set out, as many point out, the basic crucial items such as I list below, (different for others) I personally couldn’t live without, as everyday basic drawing tools in my eyes. However, I could live without all matters relating to 3D Modelling, as far easier, for me anyway, in SU-PRO or free BLENDER.

I’m using DC18, as wanted to force myself in learning SPIRIT-2017, so have not upgraded to DC20. I’m still finding this time consuming, but will get there I hope, if not, then back to DC. I’m still using DC for proper paying projects, as way too quick for very good 2D plans for planning design & construction doc’s. The SPIRIT VENTURE was primarily to use their more sophisticated 3D MODELLING, so I could drop SU. But STI-SPIRIT HQ have had a little wobble over the last few years by taking control of the English-speaking market rather than by X-GS in the states. Confidence in any product is key, so this venture is taking more time than first thought. Apologies for wondering off topic.

Polyline and related editing tools
XREFs (External Reference Files)
Self-XREFs (Internal Reference File)
Spell checker with international-language dictionaries
Automatic boundary detection for hatching (Contour search)
Print to PDF with layer
Map 255 colors to 15 pens
.PDF Adobe Acrobat Portable Document file
Maximum drawing file size 32mb
Drawing Session Backups
Line type creator
Text Scale
Identify, Set All
User-definable default drawings
 
Over & out,

Clayton.


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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 18 2018
From: Nick Pyner

This is probably true. 

Why not try the 45 day trial version of the full bottle? 

Nick Pyner 
Dee Why  NSW 

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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 18 2018


Well, I'M now officially in a bit of a pickle.

Work PC and Servers have been hit by Ransom Virus... IT department are working on recovery but it's not sounding to good, as it has been chewing on the backups too.

I have been trying to install DC11 on my personal Win10 PC at home, although install of both software and hardlock drivers is successful, I am getting Unknown Hardlock Error when I go to start it up. [Have downloaded the latest driver]

What am I missing??


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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 20 2018
From: Neil Blanchard

Hi Nyc,

Did you download the latest hardlock driver from the DataCAD web site?




On 8/18/2018 9:45 AM, vk3...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'M now officially in a bit of a pickle.

Work PC and Servers have been hit by Ransom Virus... IT department are working on recovery but it's not sounding to good, as it has been chewing on the backups too.

I have been trying to install DC11 on my personal Win10 PC at home, although install of both software and hardlock drivers is successful, I am getting Unknown Hardlock Error when I go to start it up. [Have downloaded the latest driver]

What am I missing??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Sincerely, Neil



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Subject: DBUG> DBUG› Purchase DC-LT or DC
Date: Aug 22 2018
From: DwightB


Even if just a one-guy drafting firm, can't imagine why you'd still be on v11.  Those guys in MA make a living selling new features; try them.

 
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Subject: DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
Date: Aug 22 2018
From: DwightB

Code official wants exit path measured to main floor exit door from farthest point on upper floor.  Do I just measure around the stairs as if traveled only in 2d or add 3' for the vertical element of fall in a 10' floor to floor with 7/11 steps?
In 45 years, haven't run across this before.
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Subject: DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
Date: Aug 24 2018
From: Roger Donaldson

If you are using a ICC based code, you answer is described in Section 1017.3.1.  Stairs would be measured based along the nosing line.


On 08/21/2018 8:52 AM, DwightB wrote:
Code official wants exit path measured to main floor exit door from farthest point on upper floor.  Do I just measure around the stairs as if traveled only in 2d or add 3' for the vertical element of fall in a 10' floor to floor with 7/11 steps?
In 45 years, haven't run across this before.

-- 
Sincerely,

Roger Donaldson, AIA, CSI, CDT, LEED AP BD+C NCARB

Roger L. Donaldson, AIA P.L.C.
 (517) 694-0011                                                                                                                                                           Roge...@comcast.net
DESIGNING A BETTER FUTURE

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Subject: DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
Date: Aug 24 2018
From: Ted Blockley

That measurement on the stair is, I believe, 3-D from nosing to nosing along the path. You can find a diagram in the commentary for NFPA 101. I too have never seen the requirement enforced.

On Aug 21, 2018, at 5:52 AM, DwightB <dwi...@brennfoerderarchitects.com> wrote:
Code official wants exit path measured to main floor exit door from farthest point on upper floor.  Do I just measure around the stairs as if traveled only in 2d or add 3' for the vertical element of fall in a 10' floor to floor with 7/11 steps?
In 45 years, haven't run across this before.

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Subject: DBUG> Accurate Exit Path Measurement
Date: Aug 24 2018
From: James Horecka

That's how the code says you must measure the path. Down the diagonals.

Means of Egress is one of my top areas of expertise. I have to deal with exceptionally complex environments frequently, often way up in the air.

Some tips on doing this properly, based on Best Practices, assuming an office building:

On a new layer:

You should begin your measurement at the farthest corner of the farthest office. A dot 12" from each wall, in that corner. That's your body at the Start position.

You must work your paths orthogonally through the room. This properly accounts for furniture. Code says you have to follow a natural path, you see, and unless you are a ghost, you cannot walk through desks and such.

Walk out the center of the door. Remember that 36" doors are net 33" clear.

Walk to the center of the hall.

To do the stairs, here is what I do:

Your treads should already be 11". That's the minimum in commercial. Let's assume that's what you have. Let us also assume you have 7" risers. So, at the middle of one tread, draft the following: Over 5.5", up 3.5". Then over 5.5", down 3.5". Do you see what I did there? Good. Now, Copy that Group over for each nosing. Don't forget one more at the bottom. Do the same for the next flight, again capturing the final one as well.

At landings, use right angles or arcs. Either is reasonable.

Make your way down whatever halls and such.

Travel distance stop when at the outer face of the Exit Door. Exit Door is a technical term, defined in the Code. You will see there is more than one means. In most cases, it's the door at grade level. Not always, thought.

So, now you have all these line segments. Zap these all into a polyline, using the appropriate macro.

Note: If you don't know how to do this, that's a separate topic. Alternately: On a new layer, go Polyline, toggle Off Closed, then trace a Polyline over your construction lines.

Once you have those entities properly connected as one polyline, hit Identify, on the Polyline. There's your exact travel distance.

Once you get this down, you can scoot right through this. Imagine the fun doing this for vast queues, or wild catwalks in technical production areas! Yeah, not so much. But one thing's for sure: You get fast & efficient with 'em.

Tip for Commercial: Under the current model codes, the good book pretty much says you need at least two means of egress except when you don't (cases are listed in the book). And beware the CPOET in commercial. That's often a limit, especially in Assembly. Even though that's been in the model codes for ages now, lots of peeps I encounter don't yet fully understand that constraint.

James Horecka

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Subject: DBUG> Meeting Agenda for September 12th DBUG Meeting in Maynard
From: Evan H Shu, FAIA Emeritus <eva...@comcast.net>
Date: 8/30/2018 10:55 AM
                  
                   AGENDA for SEPTEMBER 2018 DBUG MEETING

WHEN: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:00 p.m.

WHERE: Neil Blanchard's House
13 Chandler St. (Directions & Map Link Below)
Maynard, MA 01754

RSVP to HOST: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>

                   PROGRAM AGENDA

* Food / Reception ($5 donation)

* Welcome, Introduction, General Announcements

* Blanchard House Update  
         by Neil Blanchard

Last year at this time, Neil showed us his ambitious plans for a house addition, new solar panels, and cellulose insulation. He will give us an update on how all those items have progressed with an emphasis on the solar panel system installation and performance.

* DH Software: Space Planning Macro
         by David Henderson and Neil Blanchard
We have all missed having an updated Blocker Space Planning macro these many years. We finally have a replacement macro. Neil (and hopefully David Henderson via remote link) will demonstrate how it works. If time allows, we will also take a look at the DH Software Shadow macro.

* DataCAD 20 New Features
          by Neil Blanchard
DataCAD continues to march on with quarterly updates to its flagship product. Neil will demonstrate some of the latest updates (such as Symbol Layer Manager and Installer) as well as give us a heads-up on what may be coming down the line (Pak-N-Go, Symbol Browser, ClipCube enhancements).


DIRECTIONS: Google Map Link: http://goo.gl/maps/e3rSN

13 Chandler St.
Maynard MA 01754

Chandler Street is inside the triangle formed by Routes 117, 62 and
27, pretty much in the center of Maynard. So, not surprisingly all
the approaches to my house will be on at least one of these roads.

Take 128 to 2A (or 2) and then take Rte 62 through Concord into
Maynard. When 62 becomes Rt 27 (Parker St.) at the traffic light
Elmwood Street is the right turn off about 0.3 miles past Waltham St,
at the neighborhood ball field park. Our house is on the northwest
(uphill on the right hand) corner of Chandler Street crossing Elmwood
Street.

From the west on Rt 495 you can take Route 117 (Exit 27) east through
Bolton, Stow into Maynard, and turn left at Rt 27 north (at traffic
light), then take 4th left onto Elmwood Street at the ball field park.

From the west on Rt 495 you can take Route 2 (Exit 29) east through
Littleton and then in Acton take Rt 27 (Exit 42) south into Maynard.
Then you can take the left turn onto Nason Street (soon after
Cumberland Farms), then straight through traffic light at Summer St.,
then right onto Main Street, then immediate left onto Walnut Street
(right in front of The Mill), then second right onto Dartmouth Street,
then bear left onto Chandler.


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