OT- Adobe Illustrator / InDesign ?

[SDES...@aol.com]

How many of you use these programs and for what ?

 

I've had themand have still not figured out what the "hype" is for them in terms of use in an AEC Office .

 

I'm sure I'm missing something, but could it be something that ACAD folks use frequently for their work ?

 

I've only used them to paste images and text for competitions but beyond that I just am clueless as to what is so powerful about them.

 

My reason for asking is that they are always mentioned in RFP's under "Required Softwares".

 

Any insights appreciated.

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[Michael Kriegh]

I have them both too. I illustrator I barely ever use. Mostly to convert pdf drawings to dwg or dxf format. Its basically a graphic design sofware, but most of the things I would do in it I find easier to do elsewhere, largely because I don't know how to use it, and have not had enough to do on it to figure out how to use it. I might find more use for it if I had reason enough to learn it. How is that for chicken and egg argument?

Indesign can be very useful when you want to do a super slick job on a report and have lots of control over content placement and appearance. It is a desktop publishing program and it is powerful when you get to know it. Still I would say that I don't use it often. Most of my PR material is prepared in Microsoft Word, which has powerful enough desktop publishing capability for most circumstances and is generally easier to use since most of us have to use it a lot anyway.

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[JAID]

Hi David,

 

I do use each of them a little but am far from fluent.

 

Illustrator is a fantastic vector drawing tool but unless you need it for signage or for producing image components for Photoshop, Premier Pro, web design or for sophisticated and probably jazzy reworking and specialised printing of your presentations I don’t think it would be very useful in most AEC setups. If uses of that sort fit then it is superb.  My use has never stretched to reworking of presentations. Have a play with it though. After playing with curves for a while you will have a new wish list item for DataCAD. It manipulates objects beautifully. Does basic things like copy, add panels of colour and produce gradient very nicely too.

 

InDesign I have used even less. My use has only been in producing diagrams but I tend to use Microsoft Visio Professional in preference. I think InDesign is probably more sophisticated in building related tools than Visio not because I have managed to make It work that way but because I have had a few corporate clients bring in projects with quite superb drawings forming part of the brief. These have had people who do use InDesign in-house (for other purposes) and they really know how to make it sing. Unfortunately they didn’t show comparable design talent or I would have used their drawings and revelled in the free run or walk.  When I say the drawings looked fantastic I say it setting aside a type of architectural expectation, the application may be able to be made to do most of what we require but these blokes were not wired that way.

 

As a tool it does automate some planning procedures but I suspect other areas would take considerable time to form into the type of documentation you or I expect. While it probably does more, from my  perspective it would be a useful tool for adding  quick diagrams to reports and the like. It is often used for office fit-outs and the like.

 

I suspect that unless you are quite unusual the learning curve would be a difficult one for an Architect of Interior Designer to make pay with either of these applications.

 

Regards

 

Ian

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[SDES...@aol.com]

Thanks for the tips - I pretty much use it as you both do. After reading Ian's comments I think I'll dig just a bit deeper into it to see if I can find any "jewels" that I might have overlooked.

 

Best wishes -

David K. Sargert

 

 

In a message dated 11/23/2009 6:32:26 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, mkr...@gmail.com writes:

I have them both too. I illustrator I barely ever use. Mostly to convert pdf drawings to dwg or dxf format. Its basically a graphic design sofware, but most of the things I would do in it I find easier to do elsewhere, largely because I don't know how to use it, and have not had enough to do on it to figure out how to use it. I might find more use for it if I had reason enough to learn it. How is that for chicken and egg argument?

Indesign can be very useful when you want to do a super slick job on a report and have lots of control over content placement and appearance. It is a desktop publishing program and it is powerful when you get to know it. Still I would say that I don't use it often. Most of my PR material is prepared in Microsoft Word, which has powerful enough desktop publishing capability for most circumstances and is generally easier to use since most of us have to use it a lot anyway.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM, <SDES...@aol.com> wrote: