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Neil Hoefs
Jason Dyrdahl
we have had poor results, especially with corn the last couple years
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:32 PM
To: Dakota Southeast PF Chapter
Subject: {Dakota East PF Chapter} Habitat Seed
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Since it sounds like several people have had less-than-expected results, maybe we (and perhaps other PF chapters) should send a "diplomatic" message to PF National. The poor results experienced by several guys could be due to many factors like too long of seed maturity, poor germination, seedbed preparation, planting depth, fertilization, weed control, etc. And of course, Mother Nature plays a big part in results also like soil temperature at time of and following planting, timeliness of moisture, growing-degree days, etc.
No question, however, it all starts with the quality of the seed. The "diplomatic" message I referred to earlier is the suggestion that PF National transition from "donated" seed (of historic poorer quality) to "purchased" seed (of historic better quality). It is frustrating, if not futile, to put in the time, trouble and expense of planting a food crop for the birds if the seed doesn't produce the food the birds need.
It would be interesting to know what experience other PF chapters have had on this issue.
Just my 2 cents . . .
Tim Richard
Since it sounds like several people have had less-than-expected results, maybe we (and perhaps other PF chapters) should send a "diplomatic" message to PF National. The poor results experienced by several guys could be due to many factors like too long of seed maturity, poor germination, seedbed preparation, planting depth, fertilization, weed control, etc. And of course, Mother Nature plays a big part in results also like soil temperature at time of and following planting, timeliness of moisture, growing-degree days, etc.
No question, however, it all starts with the quality of the seed. The "diplomatic" message I referred to earlier is the suggestion that PF National transition from "donated" seed (of historic poorer quality) to "purchased" seed (of historic better quality). It is frustrating, if not futile, to put in the time, trouble and expense of planting a food crop for the birds if the seed doesn't produce the food the birds need.
It would be interesting to know what experience other PF chapters have had on this issue.
Just my 2 cents . . .
On 2017-08-30 07:30, Jason Dyrdahl wrote:
we have had poor results, especially with corn the last couple years
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:32 PM
To: Dakota Southeast PF Chapter
Subject: {Dakota East PF Chapter} Habitat Seed
Forgot to mention tonight.Has anyone else been told by their cooperators that their seed from PF failed to grow or did come up and looks poor?Bruce Pantzke, Kiebke's and one of their neighbors have told me (or Russ).Anyone else?--
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I agree. It would be good to ask Renee about it asap, so as she visits with different chapters, she can survey their results.
On 2017-08-31 08:11, Tim Richard wrote:
Maybe worth asking our new state rep Renee if anybody else has had issues. I think Bruce had issues last year too, but that was more the late maturity seed that we seem to keep getting if I remember correctly.
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:06 AM, <rjoh...@ideaone.net> wrote:
Since it sounds like several people have had less-than-expected results, maybe we (and perhaps other PF chapters) should send a "diplomatic" message to PF National. The poor results experienced by several guys could be due to many factors like too long of seed maturity, poor germination, seedbed preparation, planting depth, fertilization, weed control, etc. And of course, Mother Nature plays a big part in results also like soil temperature at time of and following planting, timeliness of moisture, growing-degree days, etc.
No question, however, it all starts with the quality of the seed. The "diplomatic" message I referred to earlier is the suggestion that PF National transition from "donated" seed (of historic poorer quality) to "purchased" seed (of historic better quality). It is frustrating, if not futile, to put in the time, trouble and expense of planting a food crop for the birds if the seed doesn't produce the food the birds need.
It would be interesting to know what experience other PF chapters have had on this issue.
Just my 2 cents . . .
On 2017-08-30 07:30, Jason Dyrdahl wrote:
we have had poor results, especially with corn the last couple years
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:32 PM
To: Dakota Southeast PF Chapter
Subject: {Dakota East PF Chapter} Habitat Seed
Forgot to mention tonight.Has anyone else been told by their cooperators that their seed from PF failed to grow or did come up and looks poor?Bruce Pantzke, Kiebke's and one of their neighbors have told me (or Russ).Anyone else?--
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Neil Hoefs
Since it sounds like several people have had less-than-expected results, maybe we (and perhaps other PF chapters) should send a "diplomatic" message to PF National. The poor results experienced by several guys could be due to many factors like too long of seed maturity, poor germination, seedbed preparation, planting depth, fertilization, weed control, etc. And of course, Mother Nature plays a big part in results also like soil temperature at time of and following planting, timeliness of moisture, growing-degree days, etc.
No question, however, it all starts with the quality of the seed. The "diplomatic" message I referred to earlier is the suggestion that PF National transition from "donated" seed (of historic poorer quality) to "purchased" seed (of historic better quality). It is frustrating, if not futile, to put in the time, trouble and expense of planting a food crop for the birds if the seed doesn't produce the food the birds need.
It would be interesting to know what experience other PF chapters have had on this issue.
Just my 2 cents . . .
On 2017-08-30 07:30, Jason Dyrdahl wrote:
we have had poor results, especially with corn the last couple years
From: dakotasoutheast@googlegroups.com <dakotasoutheast@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Neil Hoefs <sayda...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:32 PM
To: Dakota Southeast PF Chapter
Subject: {Dakota East PF Chapter} Habitat Seed
Forgot to mention tonight.Has anyone else been told by their cooperators that their seed from PF failed to grow or did come up and looks poor?Bruce Pantzke, Kiebke's and one of their neighbors have told me (or Russ).Anyone else?--
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