Review and help with path of war: expanded
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exelsisxax
Aug 20, 2016, 10:51:12 PM8/20/16
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Nobody was working on it, so I did it. Almost everything is up in the queue (content wise, at least) other than the new disciplines and maneuvers. I'm having plenty of issues with formatting, so if somebody can tell me how to manipulate tables in a way that works, that'd be great.
exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 4:10:06 PM8/22/16
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100% of the content, excepting favored class bonuses, is now in the queue. Still can't do tables correctly (observe archetype tables if you dare).
Brandon Peterson
Aug 22, 2016, 4:11:35 PM8/22/16
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I always found it easiest to steal the code for a table from a page that already had it and then alter the information
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Matt Medeiros
Aug 22, 2016, 4:25:14 PM8/22/16
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Are you using thr most up to date material? I heard there was issues with the PoW material on the site being playtest or the like.
On Aug 22, 2016 4:11 PM, "Brandon Peterson" <meem...@gmail.com> wrote:
I always found it easiest to steal the code for a table from a page that already had it and then alter the information
On Aug 22, 2016 4:10 PM, "exelsisxax" <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% of the content, excepting favored class bonuses, is now in the queue. Still can't do tables correctly (observe archetype tables if you dare).--
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 10:51:12 PM UTC-4, exelsisxax wrote:Nobody was working on it, so I did it. Almost everything is up in the queue (content wise, at least) other than the new disciplines and maneuvers. I'm having plenty of issues with formatting, so if somebody can tell me how to manipulate tables in a way that works, that'd be great.
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exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 5:19:59 PM8/22/16
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I'm uploading the actual path of war - expanded final release version. The one they've been selling for months. Had someone been uploading POW:E playtest or unfinished info? Or do you mean old POW content is wrong on the site?
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-4, Matt Medeiros wrote:
Are you using thr most up to date material? I heard there was issues with the PoW material on the site being playtest or the like.
On Aug 22, 2016 4:11 PM, "Brandon Peterson" <meem...@gmail.com> wrote:
I always found it easiest to steal the code for a table from a page that already had it and then alter the information
On Aug 22, 2016 4:10 PM, "exelsisxax" <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% of the content, excepting favored class bonuses, is now in the queue. Still can't do tables correctly (observe archetype tables if you dare).--
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 10:51:12 PM UTC-4, exelsisxax wrote:Nobody was working on it, so I did it. Almost everything is up in the queue (content wise, at least) other than the new disciplines and maneuvers. I'm having plenty of issues with formatting, so if somebody can tell me how to manipulate tables in a way that works, that'd be great.
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Matt Medeiros
Aug 22, 2016, 5:42:33 PM8/22/16
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Yessir. Its incorrect, sayeth Dreamscarred Press bros. They just hate bugging John. I havent looked it up myself but apparently its just copy pasta from an early pdf, complete with page numbers abd the like.
On Aug 22, 2016 5:20 PM, "exelsisxax" <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm uploading the actual path of war - expanded final release version. The one they've been selling for months. Had someone been uploading POW:E playtest or unfinished info? Or do you mean old POW content is wrong on the site?
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-4, Matt Medeiros wrote:
Are you using thr most up to date material? I heard there was issues with the PoW material on the site being playtest or the like.
On Aug 22, 2016 4:11 PM, "Brandon Peterson" <meem...@gmail.com> wrote:
I always found it easiest to steal the code for a table from a page that already had it and then alter the information
On Aug 22, 2016 4:10 PM, "exelsisxax" <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% of the content, excepting favored class bonuses, is now in the queue. Still can't do tables correctly (observe archetype tables if you dare).--
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 10:51:12 PM UTC-4, exelsisxax wrote:Nobody was working on it, so I did it. Almost everything is up in the queue (content wise, at least) other than the new disciplines and maneuvers. I'm having plenty of issues with formatting, so if somebody can tell me how to manipulate tables in a way that works, that'd be great.
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exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 5:52:17 PM8/22/16
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Do you know where it's wrong, or can link to where the errors are pointed out? Or is it a general "everything is from the playtest version"? I haven't really noticed anything totally wrong off-hand.
Matt Medeiros
Aug 22, 2016, 6:54:29 PM8/22/16
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Ok, sorry, they were talking about the PoW:Expanded stuff, which you're currently repairing? If so, keep it up, Dreamscarred Press thanks you. :D
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Do you know where it's wrong, or can link to where the errors are pointed out? Or is it a general "everything is from the playtest version"? I haven't really noticed anything totally wrong off-hand.
exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 6:57:34 PM8/22/16
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Well I'm not repairing it - i've put it up for the first time.
John Reyst
Aug 22, 2016, 9:30:53 PM8/22/16
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So I am not sure who all is (was) working on POW Expanded but I saw some comments in the Editors Google Group about it then noticed a lot of work had been done (making pages etc.) So in order to not look like I'm slacking off I went ahead and moved a bunch of the pages that were in the work area to the live locations. I had (and have) no idea what is or isn't "current" etc. so if anyone wants to update/edit pages with the correct info, please feel free.
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Well I'm not repairing it - i've put it up for the first time.
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exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 9:44:42 PM8/22/16
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That's been me, and I guess you were moving the pages out.
Should I try automatic linking on the pages? I've barely done any manually so far, but I don't know if it would do much good, seeing as how most of it links internally or to old POW stuff.
Should I try automatic linking on the pages? I've barely done any manually so far, but I don't know if it would do much good, seeing as how most of it links internally or to old POW stuff.
John Reyst
Aug 22, 2016, 10:08:47 PM8/22/16
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Do you know about linker.d20pfsrd.com? You upload html files to it and it returns the html page to you with embedded hyperlinks. You have to go back over the page to remove unnecessary links but it save a crap ton of time.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 9:44 PM, exelsisxax <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's been me, and I guess you were moving the pages out.
Should I try automatic linking on the pages? I've barely done any manually so far, but I don't know if it would do much good, seeing as how most of it links internally or to old POW stuff.
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exelsisxax
Aug 22, 2016, 10:20:20 PM8/22/16
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I'll give it a try.
exelsisxax
Aug 23, 2016, 1:59:15 PM8/23/16
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A try was given, but didn't work out well. I think I removed 80-90% of the links that it created, but more importantly it didn't link to any POW stuff, like disciplines, systems and use, etc. Uses of the word harbinger, on the harbinger page, linked to a class that wasn't the same harbinger.
I'll just manually link the discipline pages.
I'll just manually link the discipline pages.
exelsisxax
Aug 26, 2016, 2:43:31 PM8/26/16
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The base classes, prestige classes, templates, and martial traditions are complete(john moved out the harbinger and a bunch of archetypes already though). Someone with fresh eyes just needs to look them over.
The archetypes still need some work, and the disciplines are mostly unformatted wall-o-text, but it's getting there.
The archetypes still need some work, and the disciplines are mostly unformatted wall-o-text, but it's getting there.
John Reyst
Aug 26, 2016, 4:58:23 PM8/26/16
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sweet!
On Aug 26, 2016 1:43 PM, "exelsisxax" <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
The base classes, prestige classes, templates, and martial traditions are complete(john moved out the harbinger and a bunch of archetypes already though). Someone with fresh eyes just needs to look them over.
The archetypes still need some work, and the disciplines are mostly unformatted wall-o-text, but it's getting there.
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Jonathan Yeung
Aug 26, 2016, 8:44:15 PM8/26/16
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Hey exelsisxax, just wanted to say thanks for pushing this through! My group have started to really dig deep in the PoW material, and this'll be a great help.
I've been slowly updating the pages for the maneuvers of the base PoW material so that it's easier to navigate to the maneuvers. I hope to start helping with the Expanded materials in the same way eventually as well.
I've been slowly updating the pages for the maneuvers of the base PoW material so that it's easier to navigate to the maneuvers. I hope to start helping with the Expanded materials in the same way eventually as well.
exelsisxax
Aug 29, 2016, 2:37:24 PM8/29/16
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Archetypes for primary initiator classes are complete, as are archetypes for non-initiator classes.
Feats and the disciplines are most of what's left - the rest being the POW:E stuff for old POW classes and 4 traits that need to be put somewhere.
Feats and the disciplines are most of what's left - the rest being the POW:E stuff for old POW classes and 4 traits that need to be put somewhere.
exelsisxax
Aug 31, 2016, 1:40:06 PM8/31/16
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new POW:E options for POW classes and all favored class bonuses are all finished and in the class pages.
If the new disciplines thing isn't entirely understandable, let me know how to clear it up.
On that note, POW prestige classes. How do they actually work? POW:E gave disciplines to some of them, in writing that is not at all similar to the "have some maneuvers of X and Z disciplines" of both new and old PrC. So I put the new stuff in as written, but it seems wrong - as written, the PrC grants global access to the discipline to the character(a likely oversight, seeing as how the PrC still read as full initiator levels to all classes). Can anyone clear this up?
oh, and Sleeping Goddess and Elemental Flux are 100% complete.
If the new disciplines thing isn't entirely understandable, let me know how to clear it up.
On that note, POW prestige classes. How do they actually work? POW:E gave disciplines to some of them, in writing that is not at all similar to the "have some maneuvers of X and Z disciplines" of both new and old PrC. So I put the new stuff in as written, but it seems wrong - as written, the PrC grants global access to the discipline to the character(a likely oversight, seeing as how the PrC still read as full initiator levels to all classes). Can anyone clear this up?
oh, and Sleeping Goddess and Elemental Flux are 100% complete.
Jonathan Yeung
Aug 31, 2016, 8:49:43 PM8/31/16
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I can't find any solid answer to using prestige classes to gain access to other disciplines. There's no mention of the scenario in PoW or PoW:E, and a quick google search turned up nothing. My interpretation as a GM leads me to believe that the prestige class does NOT grant full access for the character as a whole to that new discipline. Rather, your access to which discipline maneuvers to add is limited by what class or prestige class you are leveling up as.
Example from Landsknecht: "At every even level, a landsknecht gains a new maneuver known. His available disciplines for these maneuvers are Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne,and two of his previously available disciplines, chosen when he takes his first landsknecht level. He must meet a maneuver’s prerequisites to learn it, as normal. He adds his full landsknecht level to his initiator level to determine his total initiator level and his highest-level maneuvers known. "
A mystic 5 would have access to Elemental Flux, Mithral Current, Riven Hourglass, Shattered Mirror, Solar Wind, and Veiled Moon. An landsknecht would have access to Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne, and 2 other disciplines of the previous class. So the implication is that when you take a another level in this prestige class, your accessible disciplines are limited to Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne, and 2 chosen only. If you take another level in mystic, you wouldn't have access to Scarlet Throne when choosing new maneuvers to know.
Example from Landsknecht: "At every even level, a landsknecht gains a new maneuver known. His available disciplines for these maneuvers are Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne,and two of his previously available disciplines, chosen when he takes his first landsknecht level. He must meet a maneuver’s prerequisites to learn it, as normal. He adds his full landsknecht level to his initiator level to determine his total initiator level and his highest-level maneuvers known. "
A mystic 5 would have access to Elemental Flux, Mithral Current, Riven Hourglass, Shattered Mirror, Solar Wind, and Veiled Moon. An landsknecht would have access to Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne, and 2 other disciplines of the previous class. So the implication is that when you take a another level in this prestige class, your accessible disciplines are limited to Mithral Current, Scarlet Throne, and 2 chosen only. If you take another level in mystic, you wouldn't have access to Scarlet Throne when choosing new maneuvers to know.
exelsisxax
Aug 31, 2016, 9:45:10 PM8/31/16
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Yeah, that seemed like what they were going for. It's just really weird the way they actually wrote it. They should have said more along the lines of "when PrC learns maneuvers, they may also choose from discipline X" like all the PrC actually have in the descriptions. Instead, they wrote not that at all.
Still, POW PrC still aren't anywhere near as clear as other PrC. They explicitly state that grant spellcasting/bloodline/whateverfeature effective levels, but only to a single class with those features if multiple are possessed.
Schrodinger disciplines: if you get advanced study, the interpretation above does not allow you to learn additional PrC discipline maneuvers. PrC don't grant you disciplines, both RAW and if you are correct RAI as well.
What class gets swag: If you already have 2 initiating classes, do you get to choose which class gains (full) initiator level, additional maneuvers, readies, stances, and their recovery method? This seems very likely, but I cannot find any actual rule. It's very important for knowing which class readies you can fill with PrC maneuvers and PrC readies you can also fill with some class's maneuvers.
Basically someone from DSP needs to tell me that PrC initiating applies to a single chosen pre-existing class, excepting PrC disciplines, which are treated as disciplines known.
Also, awakened blade is now hot garbage(unless you're a pathwalker+soulknife already?) considering sleeping goddess... exists. Just pointing it out and complaining.
Still, POW PrC still aren't anywhere near as clear as other PrC. They explicitly state that grant spellcasting/bloodline/whateverfeature effective levels, but only to a single class with those features if multiple are possessed.
Schrodinger disciplines: if you get advanced study, the interpretation above does not allow you to learn additional PrC discipline maneuvers. PrC don't grant you disciplines, both RAW and if you are correct RAI as well.
What class gets swag: If you already have 2 initiating classes, do you get to choose which class gains (full) initiator level, additional maneuvers, readies, stances, and their recovery method? This seems very likely, but I cannot find any actual rule. It's very important for knowing which class readies you can fill with PrC maneuvers and PrC readies you can also fill with some class's maneuvers.
Basically someone from DSP needs to tell me that PrC initiating applies to a single chosen pre-existing class, excepting PrC disciplines, which are treated as disciplines known.
Also, awakened blade is now hot garbage(unless you're a pathwalker+soulknife already?) considering sleeping goddess... exists. Just pointing it out and complaining.
exelsisxax
Sep 2, 2016, 12:41:08 PM9/2/16
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I finished cursed razor, eternal guardian, and mithral current. only 4 disciplines to go.
exelsisxax
Sep 9, 2016, 1:38:55 PM9/9/16
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Piercing thunder, riven hourglass, shattered mirror, and tempest gale disciplines have been completed. That's all of them formatted and linked. All the feats have been completed as well. POW:E is completely uploaded and just waiting on reviews.
John Reyst
Sep 9, 2016, 2:11:16 PM9/9/16
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Woot!
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, exelsisxax <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
Piercing thunder, riven hourglass, shattered mirror, and tempest gale disciplines have been completed. That's all of them formatted and linked. All the feats have been completed as well. POW:E is completely uploaded and just waiting on reviews.
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John Reyst
Sep 9, 2016, 2:12:17 PM9/9/16
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Oh just go ahead and put the pages where you think they need to go. If we wait for reviewing to release it'll never get released. If someone notices something wrong we can update after it's out there.
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Woot!
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, exelsisxax <exels...@gmail.com> wrote:
Piercing thunder, riven hourglass, shattered mirror, and tempest gale disciplines have been completed. That's all of them formatted and linked. All the feats have been completed as well. POW:E is completely uploaded and just waiting on reviews.
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exelsisxax
Sep 9, 2016, 3:35:10 PM9/9/16
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Done then. Anybody that finds something weird can go ahead and bug me about it.
John Reyst
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Do you have a Facebook profile I can tag for credit?
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Done then. Anybody that finds something weird can go ahead and bug me about it.
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exelsisxax
Sep 9, 2016, 9:34:19 PM9/9/16
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Sure. I'm Carson Purnell on facebook.
John Reyst
Sep 9, 2016, 9:54:10 PM9/9/16
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Ok. Friend Request sent :D
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Sure. I'm Carson Purnell on facebook.
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opalescentrain
Dec 1, 2016, 10:37:57 AM12/1/16
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Hiya, I just made pages for the Path of War Kineticist Archetype that was released in a separate mini pdf and added them to the queue for review.
One thing I'm not sure where to put is that the pdf also has a single magic item for kineticists, which doesn't have any good existing page to go on.
Other than that though, I think everything else is good to go.
One thing I'm not sure where to put is that the pdf also has a single magic item for kineticists, which doesn't have any good existing page to go on.
Other than that though, I think everything else is good to go.
exelsisxax
Dec 2, 2016, 3:26:32 PM12/2/16
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I gave it a quick look, I didn't see anything out of place. I don't have any experience with the kineticist itself though, so I could have missed something.
opalescentrain
Dec 8, 2016, 9:18:52 AM12/8/16
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Thanks for checking it over!
Do I move it to the release queue and sort of leave it there until it gets moved to a real place, then? I haven't made pages before so just making sure I know the proper process.
Do I move it to the release queue and sort of leave it there until it gets moved to a real place, then? I haven't made pages before so just making sure I know the proper process.
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