Feature request: SCP Support
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sugoruyo
Jan 4, 2011, 8:07:18 AM1/4/11
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I would like to suggest that SCP (not SFTP) support be implemented in
Cyberduck sometime in the future.
I have been using Cyberduck as my file transfer client of choice for
some time now.
Relatively recently the need for me to transfer files to Unix/Linux
systems using SCP has arisen.
When this is done from a Windows machine I normally use WinSCP which
is an excellent utility for the job (arguably the very best).
On the Mac however there are no good graphical SCP clients. Fugu is
old and breaks half the time, all the others are either shareware or
SFTP-only (like Cyberduck).
The lack of a good Mac SCP client has me using WinSCP via Wine (ugly,
really ugly).
SCP support for Cyberduck would a great addition to an already
excellent program. There also seems to be quite a number of people
that are actually looking for something like this on the Mac. In fact,
I think I saw a ticket in Trac for this some time back although I
can't seem to find it right now.
What do you think?
PS: Hopefully this isn't already discussed at length anywhere else and
I'm not double-posting...
Cyberduck sometime in the future.
I have been using Cyberduck as my file transfer client of choice for
some time now.
Relatively recently the need for me to transfer files to Unix/Linux
systems using SCP has arisen.
When this is done from a Windows machine I normally use WinSCP which
is an excellent utility for the job (arguably the very best).
On the Mac however there are no good graphical SCP clients. Fugu is
old and breaks half the time, all the others are either shareware or
SFTP-only (like Cyberduck).
The lack of a good Mac SCP client has me using WinSCP via Wine (ugly,
really ugly).
SCP support for Cyberduck would a great addition to an already
excellent program. There also seems to be quite a number of people
that are actually looking for something like this on the Mac. In fact,
I think I saw a ticket in Trac for this some time back although I
can't seem to find it right now.
What do you think?
PS: Hopefully this isn't already discussed at length anywhere else and
I'm not double-posting...
David Kocher
Jan 4, 2011, 9:14:14 AM1/4/11
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We do support to use SCP for file transfers. You can change this in the preferences in SFTP → File Transfers [1]. To browse servers without SFTP there hasn't been enough demand so far. What server is it that only supports plain SSH without a SFTP subsystem?
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David
[1] http://trac.cyberduck.ch/wiki/help/en/howto/sftp#UsingSCPforfiletransfers
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sugoruyo
Jan 4, 2011, 11:35:29 AM1/4/11
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Yes I am aware of the support for SCP file transfers, I was referring
to browsing and generally complete support.
Well, AFAIK SFTP == FTP over an encrypted SSH tunnel. So, if say you
install a linux system and for whatever reasons you don't want or
can't be bothered to set up proper FTP and still want to occasionally
or even rather frequently transfer files to and from that system, I
have found, SCP is one of the better ways to do it (assuming you have
a shell account). In my work environment machines with SSH but not FTP
are actually rather common... I believe about 9 out of 10 servers are
like that.
Of course, that can just be my particular situation but I recall
seeing quite a few posts on the lack of a good SCP client. It is also
quite possible that the people who use SCP tend to do it by CLI (since
they're mostly Linux people - and Linux also lacks a proper SCP
client) and the transfers tend to involve small numbers of files that
are more likely to be collectively referenced using a shell glob or
wildcard.
On Jan 4, 4:14 pm, David Kocher <dkoc...@cyberduck.ch> wrote:
> We do support to use SCP for file transfers. You can change this in the preferences in SFTP → File Transfers [1]. To browse servers without SFTP there hasn't been enough demand so far. What server is it that only supports plain SSH without a SFTP subsystem?
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> [1]http://trac.cyberduck.ch/wiki/help/en/howto/sftp#UsingSCPforfiletrans...
> > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cyberduck?hl=en?hl=en
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to browsing and generally complete support.
Well, AFAIK SFTP == FTP over an encrypted SSH tunnel. So, if say you
install a linux system and for whatever reasons you don't want or
can't be bothered to set up proper FTP and still want to occasionally
or even rather frequently transfer files to and from that system, I
have found, SCP is one of the better ways to do it (assuming you have
a shell account). In my work environment machines with SSH but not FTP
are actually rather common... I believe about 9 out of 10 servers are
like that.
Of course, that can just be my particular situation but I recall
seeing quite a few posts on the lack of a good SCP client. It is also
quite possible that the people who use SCP tend to do it by CLI (since
they're mostly Linux people - and Linux also lacks a proper SCP
client) and the transfers tend to involve small numbers of files that
are more likely to be collectively referenced using a shell glob or
wildcard.
On Jan 4, 4:14 pm, David Kocher <dkoc...@cyberduck.ch> wrote:
> We do support to use SCP for file transfers. You can change this in the preferences in SFTP → File Transfers [1]. To browse servers without SFTP there hasn't been enough demand so far. What server is it that only supports plain SSH without a SFTP subsystem?
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> David
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Birger J. Nord?lum
Jan 4, 2011, 3:29:39 PM1/4/11
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I second this.
I'm currently helping out on a XBMC Linux distro which use Dropbear instead of OpenSSH. Dropbear doesn't include any SFTP support, only SCP.
Being able to transfer files to my HTPC with SCP would be a really nice addition.
Btw, Cyberduck rocks ;)
David Kocher
Jan 5, 2011, 5:50:35 AM1/5/11
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SFTP is its own protocol that is used usually as a subsystem on top of a secure SSH2 connection and has per se nothing to do with FTP. What we are actually talking here is that in addition to existing SCP support you want to connect to a server with SSH only and then use a UNIX(-like) login shell to issue commands like `cd` and `ls` allowing to browse the remote filesystem.
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David
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sugoruyo
Jan 7, 2011, 4:49:27 AM1/7/11
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Yes, I see that now that I read up on it. It seems SFTP actually
covers my needs. Maybe my problems browsing a remote filesystem with
it where caused by something else, I tried it with Cyberduck and
certain Macs and Linux PCs and it works flawlessly. SCP is indeed a
far more restricted protocol in terms of functionality and I see now
why anyone who's implemented SFTP and SCP file transfer support
wouldn't bother implementing browsing etc.
For my part I withdraw my request for full SCP support as SFTP is
exactly what I need and Cyberduck works great with it.
As far as anyone else is concerned is suppose those running minimal/
embedded/old SSH systems might find they actually lack SFTP so I can't
speak for them.
covers my needs. Maybe my problems browsing a remote filesystem with
it where caused by something else, I tried it with Cyberduck and
certain Macs and Linux PCs and it works flawlessly. SCP is indeed a
far more restricted protocol in terms of functionality and I see now
why anyone who's implemented SFTP and SCP file transfer support
wouldn't bother implementing browsing etc.
For my part I withdraw my request for full SCP support as SFTP is
exactly what I need and Cyberduck works great with it.
As far as anyone else is concerned is suppose those running minimal/
embedded/old SSH systems might find they actually lack SFTP so I can't
speak for them.
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