Fwd: FW: After AI Symposium - Call for Submissions

[ben sweeting]

Hi Cybcom - Thought some of you might be interested in this upcoming online symposium, on what happens “After AI”.

 

It is organised by “Shifting Power” is a UKRI Future Leaders Fellowship project exploring the long-term impacts of AI, particularly those that do not centre (primarily) White, Western European notions of innovation, morality and justice. I have copied part of the call below.

 

Call for submissions: https://afteraisymposium.com/

 

Deadline for abstract submission: 28 March 2024

 

Symposium date: 17 May 2024

 

 

Best wishes

Ben

 

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“Shifting Power” is a UKRI Future Leaders Fellowship project exploring the long-term impacts of AI, particularly those that do not centre (primarily) White, Western European notions of innovation, morality and justice.

 

To help us explore the future of this technology, and the consequences we expect it to have on people, society, the planet and beyond, the Shifting Power team is hosting a symposium on what happens “After AI”.

 

As part of our current explorations into the topic with researchers and enthusiasts from all over the world, we have learned that our understanding of AI and its impacts is often coupled with a sense of urgency, what’s right in front of our faces, the real and present impacts of AI now and in the near future. With this event, we want to look further.

 

We are therefore asking you to use whatever form of prediction you find relevant – science, intuition, divine inspiration, prophecy, astrology, folklore, etc. – and help us explore the question: After AI?

 

For us, "after" indexes both a temporality and object of inquiry - something that may come about following another event and something we are chasing. How might we imagine our futures within and without AI (as it is coming to be known, or will be known)? What is your prediction? Will the dreams and nightmares all come to pass? What can we recognise right now and from the past that makes this future happen?

 

We have a long history, globally, of examining the present and the past through the future. We want this event to be an interdisciplinary and holistic exploration of the future After AI. We welcome anyone who has something to share, be they academics, technology enthusiasts or luddites, artists, activists, healers, etc.

 

[Jason Hu]

Hi Ben,

I don't understand what "particularly those that do not centre (primarily) White, Western European notions" means and why it is relevant here.

Recently some AI app generated image of George Washington as a black person. How about Alan Turning, von Neumann,  John McCarthy and Marvin Minsky etc.  Are they white or are they "Western"?

I'm confused. Enlight me. Best regards - Jason

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[Miguel Marcos Martinez]

Jason, see here: 

https://afteraisymposium.com

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[Lucas Pawlik]

Dear Jason,

                     Thank you for trying to make everyone aware that identifying "particularly those that do not center (primarily) White, Western European notions" does mean the democratic values from the French Revolution are not relevant to this conference?

Discours sur l'organisation des gardes nationales
Article XVI.
On their uniforms, engraved these words: THE FRENCH PEOPLE, & below: LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY. The same words are inscribed on flags which bear the three colors of the nation.
(French: XVI. Elles porteront sur leur poitrine ces mots gravés : LE PEUPLE FRANÇAIS, & au-dessous : LIBERTÉ, ÉGALITÉ, FRATERNITÉ. Les mêmes mots seront inscrits sur leurs drapeaux, qui porteront les trois couleurs de la nation.)

— Maximilien Robespierre, 1790^[1][6][7]

       

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9

LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY what will take its place for modeling our future after AI? 

Best Lucas

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[Jason Hu]

Dear Lucas,

Any good value, if pushed beyond its boundary, can be abused. I call that phenomenon "Abuse of Value," lining up with
"Abuse of Wealth" and "Abuse of Power" are all evil forces that we humans need to be alert to. This includes the three values you quote from the French Revolution. Robespierre himself was responsible for the emergence of violent communism. 

Since this group is about cybernetics, I would like to suggest that we try to stay with science and not slip into an ideology - or, we could use cybernetic perspectives to study (model) various ideologies.  For example, what do you see from this piece coming from Alexander Dugin this morning? Shall we have a discussion on Club of Remy about it? - Jason

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Multipolar Humanity

The multipolar world is primarily a philosophy. At its core lies a critique of Western universalism. The West has racistly and imperialistically identified itself with humanity. There was a time when Britain claimed all seas and oceans as its own. Western civilisation declared all of humanity its property — primarily its consciousness. This led to the formation of a unipolar world. In this world, there are only Western values. Only one political system — liberal democracy. Only one economic model — neoliberal capitalism. Only one culture — postmodernism. Only one conception of genders and family — LGBT. Only one version of development — technological perfection up to post-humanism and the complete displacement of humanity by AI and cyborgs. According to its proponents, the unipolar world is the ‘triumph of world history’, the total victory of the modern Western era — liberalism, which has become the sole and indisputable ideology of all humanity. Multipolarity is an alternative philosophy. It is based on the fundamental objection: the West is not all of humanity but only a part of it — a region, a province. It is not the civilisation in the singular, but one of several civilisations. There are at least seven such civilisations today — hence the most important concept of the multipolar theory — the heptarchy. Some civilisations are already united into huge continental States, civilisation-states, or wénmíng guójiā (文明国家). For others, this is yet to come. The collective West, NATO countries, and vassals of the USA are just one of the poles. Three more are: — Russia-Eurasia, — Great China (Zhōngguó 中国) or Tiānxià (天下), — Greater India. All of them are civilisation-states, which means something more than ordinary countries. And three other large spaces, integrated to varying degrees: — The Islamic world, tightly bonded by religion but politically disunited so far, — Black Trans-Saharan Africa, — Latin American ecumene. All seven civilisations have completely different religious profiles, different systems of traditional values, different development vectors, and different cultural identities. Western civilisation, contrary to its claims, is just one of them. Arrogant, bold, aggressive, deceitful, predatory, and dangerous. However, its claims to universalism are baseless, and its dominance is based on double standards. Multipolarity stands in opposition not to the West itself but specifically to the West’s claims of uniqueness and universality. These claims are not unfamiliar to us; they permeate all systems of our culture, science, and education. The West, with its toxic ideology, has infiltrated our societies, seduced and corrupted the elites, placed our society under its informational control, and tried to lead our youth as far away from faith and tradition as possible. However, the era of the West’s sole hegemony has ended. Its conclusion was marked by Russia’s stance and personally by our President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, when we refused to sacrifice our sovereignty and entered into mortal combat with the West in Ukraine. We are fighting in Ukraine not against Ukrainians but against the unipolar world. And our inevitable victory will be not only ours but a victory for all humanity, which will see first-hand that the power of the West is not absolute, that its policy of neocolonialism and de-sovereignisation can be decisively rejected, and that one can insist on one’s own stance. Russia is one of the poles of the multipolar world. This is not a return to the old bipolar model but the beginning of a completely new world architecture. The rapid growth of the Chinese economy and the strengthening of China’s sovereignty, especially under the leadership of the great leader Xi Jinping, has turned China into another completely independent pole. Seeing this, the West, represented by the globalist elite of the United States, immediately declared a trade war on it. The Islamic world has challenged the West primarily in the religious and cultural spheres. Western values — openly calling for the destruction of traditions, family, gender, culture, and religion — are incompatible with the foundations of Islam. This is understood today by each of the nearly two billion Muslims. And today, the Islamic world has its own war with the globalist West — in Palestine, in the Middle East, where a shameful genocide of the Palestinian people — the killing of Palestinian infants, women, and the elderly — is underway with the total approval of the West. India is another pole. Today — especially under the rule of Narendra Modi — it is an entire civilisation returning to its Vedic roots, its ancient tradition, its foundations. It is no longer a cultural and economic colony of the West but a rising world giant. Africa and Latin America are methodically and consistently, albeit not without problems, following the same path. The Pan-African movement is paving the way for a unified and comprehensive African integration, free from neocolonial control. This is a new theory, a new practice, incorporating the best aspects of previous stages of the liberation struggle, but based on a different philosophy, where religion, spirit, and traditional values play a crucial role. Latin America also continues its path of anti-colonial struggle. Here, peoples are seeking new ways of consolidation and unity — overcoming outdated models that divided everyone into right and left. In many Latin American countries, supporters of traditional values, religion, and family unite with those who advocate for social justice under the banner of a common fight — against the neocolonialism of the collective West and its perverted anti-human culture. The multipolar world today is not a utopia and not just a theoretical project. Six civilisations out of seven (from the planetary heptarchy) have united in a new bloc within BRICS. There are representatives from each of them. We are dealing with the institutionalisation of multipolarity. Great Humanity is uniting, understanding itself, and beginning to harmonise its traditions and orientations, its systems of traditional values, and its interests. Only the collective West, trying at any cost to maintain its hegemony, categorically refuses to engage in this inevitable multipolar process. It opposes it. It plots and provokes conflicts. It carries out interventions. It tries to suppress all foci of independence with sanctions and direct pressure. And if that fails, it enters into direct military confrontation — as in Ukraine, in Gaza, and tomorrow possibly in the Pacific. However, the West is not monolithic. There are two Wests. The globalist West of the liberal elites and the traditional West — the West of peoples and societies. The traditional West itself suffers from the tyranny of perverted globalists and tries, where it can, to rise in rebellion. The peoples of the West are not enemies of the multipolar world. They are primarily victims. As shown by our President’s interview with conservative politician and journalist Tucker Carlson, there is much more in common between Russia and the anti-globalists in the USA than it seems. Therefore, the real victory of multipolarity will not be the defeat of the collective West but its salvation, its return to its own — Western — traditional (not perverted) values, to its culture (not to cancel culture), to its classical Greco-Roman, Christian roots. I believe that the peoples freed from the globalist yoke of the real West will someday in the future also join Great Humanity, becoming a respected pole of the multipolar world. To stop being a hegemon is in the interest not only of all non-Western civilisations but also in the interest of the West itself. I welcome all participants of our Forum. We have gathered here to build the future, to comprehend the present, and to save our glorious past, ensuring the continuity of culture. So different, special, unique, self-sufficient, sovereign — humanity is us! Translated by Constantin von Hoffmeister

@constantinvonh

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[Lucas Pawlik]

Dear Jason,

                      Let us advertise that we are non-white for scientific conferences and then ignore this fact and model values scientifically together!  

 I was just mentioning the uniting values of the French Revolution. Then, you tell me a friend we should switch topics and discuss a blog, which culminates in my point about the values of the French Revolution.

I prefer connecting both themes and noticing the pattern that connects. What was tried in the French Revolution was precisely what Alexander Dugin claims multipolarity will lead to a return to our Greco-Roman Christian Roots. I notice this all the time in this group. Even when we say the same thing, we disagree and act as if we don't. 

Therefore, the real victory of multipolarity will not be the defeat of the collective West but its salvation, its return to its own — Western — traditional (not perverted) values, to its culture (not to cancel culture), to its classical Greco-Roman, Christian roots. I believe that the peoples freed from the globalist yoke of the real West will someday in the future also join Great Humanity, becoming a respected pole of the multipolar world. 

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[Jason Hu]

OK, dear Lucas, let's each prepare about 20 minutes talk and meet at CoR Zoom to discuss this. Dugin's points are presented very clear to the point that I can see what I agree and what I disagree. Through discussion, we may find out something better than both the WEF perspective and the Dugin perspective, which I see in direct clash - presented in a number of wars currently going on.

A CoR discussion needs at least three discussants, so who else is interested in joining? Most of CYBCOM members know who I am so please shoot me an email if you're interested.  Otherwise we can post a Call for Discussants to CoR members to find our third discussant. 

Agreed? The date could be in early April. Pls let me know. 

Thanks - Jason

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[Lucas Pawlik]

Dear Jason

                      I am missing the part of our last Remy talk, in which I explained how Heinz appeared in my NDE, and the following discussion. Also,  I am searching for a  Chinese translator who is up for translating my book into Chinese and estimating how much this costs so that I can budget it.  I am in the middle of a medical, ethical, and scientific information campaign on mystical experiences and God encounters. I am preparing for a meeting that could get me the support of the Vatican for doing so. The person I have to convince is an expert in biochemics and theology.  I am already fully occupied in the realization of Greco-Roman Christian values. I would love to reference our last Remy conversation and the arguments I used there, but this is as much as I can offer for now. 

Best Regards,

Lucas  

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