Re: Definition and Determination

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Jon Awbrey

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May 3, 2021, 8:08:30 AM (11 days ago) May 3
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Cf: Definition and Determination • 18
http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2021/05/02/definition-and-determination-18/

All,

Various discussions in sundry places led me by
a commodius vicus of recirculation back to the
environs of old notes I gathered on the topics
of Definition and Determination, that being on
the occasion of a return to graduate school in
a system engineering program where I needed to
start thinking of semiotics and sign relations
in the light of cybernetics and systems theory.

That required me to convert from understanding
a sign relation as a relation among three sets,
the Object, Sign, and Interpretant domains, to
thinking of a sign relation as involving three
active systems, Object, Sign, and Interpretant
systems, respectively.

It will take a few posts to recover my notes from
the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine), after which
I’ll present the excerpts in a more digestible fashion
and discuss more fully their implications. Just for
starters, a link-repaired version of the anchor post
for this series is copied below.

Definition and Determination • 1
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It looks like we might be due for one of our recurring reviews
on the closely related subjects of definition and determination,
with special reference to what Peirce himself wrote on the topics.

Arisbe List Archive
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Here is a collection of excerpts on the subject of
determination, mostly from Peirce but with a sampling
of thoughts from other thinkers before and after him,
on account of the larger questions of determinacy I was
pursuing at the time

Excerpts on Determination

• May 2001
https://web.archive.org/web/20150131204200/https://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-May/thread.html#489

• Aug 2001
https://web.archive.org/web/20141219190201/https://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-August/thread.html#942

Collection Of Source Materials
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One naturally looks to the Baldwin and Century dictionaries for
Peirce-connected definitions of definition but I’d like to start
with a series of texts I think are closer to Peirce’s own thoughts
on definition, where he is not duty-bound to give a compendious account
of every significant thinker’s point of view. It may be a while before
I get all the excerpts all copied out.

• Excerpts on Definition
https://oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey/EXCERPTS#Definition


• Excerpts on Determination
https://oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey/EXCERPTS#Determination

Regards,

Jon
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