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Seb Bacon

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:33:14 AM4/25/10
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Hi,

I realise it might be far too late to include such a thing in our
survey code, but I just wanted to report on some informal "research"
I've been doing over the weekend.

The 4 people I've described the survey to is baffled that they won't
be able to "do" it themselves. They appreciate the point that we
don't want to appear to tell people how to vote, but they are all
really motivated by the questions we're asking and want to answer
them. I wondered if the "click to reveal" function could happen
after someone has clicked how much they agree with a statement.

This does also tie onto the point that's been made before about how we
propagate the meme more widely. We really need some kind of
tell-a-friend or status-update type output at the end. Suggestions
previously have been

- merging faces of the leaders
- asking "who do you most agree with?" at the end, and then pushing
that to social network status feeds
- just saying "I've just found out what my local candidates think" on
status feeds

Personally, I would go for a format that asks you what you think
before revealing the candidates, and then asking who you most agree
with, and giving the option to tweet/email/whatever this. Asking the
user questions gives us a point to record that they are viewing the
page, and therefore a hook for my suggestion for a "petition"-like
page for bugging candidates (rather than allowing randoms to just spam
them directly).

I could dedicate some time to this on Tuesday, I think, if it would help.

Thoughts?

Seb

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Tim Green

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Apr 25, 2010, 1:53:23 PM4/25/10
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Maybe this could be a good compromise between a great big quiz and just
showing the data - I do like the idea of you responding to each question
and then it popping out with the candidate responses, coloured according
to whether they agree or disagree with you. It sort of encourages you to
systematically click through the data. I don't buy ones that say "click
on what you're interested in" - I'm usually interested in all of them!

I was also wondering if there's some sort of way a big overview of the
data could be made. Maybe a coloured grid chart with each candidate as a
column, each question as a row, and then their response the colour of
that grid square?

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Francis Irving

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Apr 25, 2010, 3:40:59 PM4/25/10
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Chatting to Seb on the phone just now, we reckoned having a button by
each answer saying "This is the one I agree with most" then a summary
at the end (all done in Javascript) would work.

The reason I'm very wary about having voters directly choose
agree/disagree, is it then makes it very hard to clearly describe
whether the candidates are agreeing with the statement or the voter
(we've had that problem a lot on the Public Whip site).

Francis
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Tom Steinberg

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Apr 26, 2010, 4:35:58 AM4/26/10
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Hi all

(From hols) - given how little time there is now, can I suggest that Francis continues to build aaccording to the original plan, but that we encourage people to reuse the data in different ways, including this model suggested?

Short msg, on phone...

tara,

Tom

On 25 Apr 2010 18:53, "Tim Green" <timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe this could be a good compromise between a great big quiz and just showing the data - I do like the idea of you responding to each question and then it popping out with the candidate responses, coloured according to whether they agree or disagree with you. It sort of encourages you to systematically click through the data. I don't buy ones that say "click on what you're interested in" - I'm usually interested in all of them!

I was also wondering if there's some sort of way a big overview of the data could be made. Maybe a coloured grid chart with each candidate as a column, each question as a row, and then their response the colour of that grid square?

-t



On 25/04/10 16:33, Seb Bacon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>

> I realise it might be far too late to include such...

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Seb Bacon

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Apr 26, 2010, 5:16:29 AM4/26/10
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Hi,

I think this (not necessarily the grid, just selecting who you agree
with most or similar)
is important enough that I spend any available time (tomorrow) on
helping implement a version of it...

Francis, if you think it's achievable with two of us by end of
tomorrow, then I suggest we go for it... if not, we do whatever's
easiest for a launch end of tomorrow. What do you think?

Seb

Francis Irving

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Apr 26, 2010, 5:22:11 AM4/26/10
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I think Tom should disable the data connection on his phone while he
is on holiday :)

We'll have a go.

Tim Green

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Apr 26, 2010, 5:24:05 AM4/26/10
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I agree that the interactive aspect is very important from the point of
view of making sure it propagates well. Other displays can certainly
wait for people to do data reuse. I'll try to supply opinion/help on any
design aspects when appropriate :)

-t

Joe Lanman

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Apr 29, 2010, 8:03:11 AM4/29/10
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Hullo - just messaged seb, but thought I'd better reply here - great work on the survey thing - it's really interesting and I've been forwarding it to friends.

However, it's a bit odd that it asks for your postcode to see your candidates responses, and then doesn't show them.

Looking at it again, it does have quite a lot of messaging to explain, but I didn't see it the first time. I wonder whether the 'Help us get answers from all your candidates!' headline and intro box takes precedent and attention away from the more important 'To see what your MP candidates said, select how you feel on each issue' section.

Maybe the top yellow box could be moved over to the right panel? 

Just my own observations - it may be that others don't have the same confusion - and again - great work in such a short time!

Joe
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Tim Green

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Apr 29, 2010, 8:06:24 AM4/29/10
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Cheers, good points - it does take rather a lot of explanation and it'd be nicer if it was just intuitive.

We discussed in IRC moving the hassle box to the right column to make the survey the first thing you see - but we thought that hassling the candidates should take precedence right now, though maybe it'd still be visible enough? I'm not sure. Keep as it is for now, I suspect. I might go find a few new users to try it on.

-t

Francis Irving

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Apr 29, 2010, 9:35:11 AM4/29/10
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I think we should leave the hassle box very prominent for now, as it
is getting the candidates response rate up.

Maybe change it in a few days time, if we think there is less need for
hassling?

Francis
> ><mailto:timoth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I agree that the interactive aspect is very important from the
> > point of view of making sure it propagates well. Other displays
> > can certainly wait for people to do data reuse. I'll try to supply
> > opinion/help on any design aspects when appropriate :)
> >
> > -t
> >
> >
> > On 26/04/10 10:16, Seb Bacon wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think this (not necessarily the grid, just selecting who you
> > agree
> > with most or similar)
> > is important enough that I spend any available time (tomorrow) on
> > helping implement a version of it...
> >
> > Francis, if you think it's achievable with two of us by end of
> > tomorrow, then I suggest we go for it... if not, we do whatever's
> > easiest for a launch end of tomorrow. What do you think?
> >
> > Seb
> >
> > On 26 April 2010 09:35, Tom Steinberg<t...@mysociety.org
> > <mailto:t...@mysociety.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > (From hols) - given how little time there is now, can I
> > suggest that Francis
> > continues to build aaccording to the original plan, but
> > that we encourage
> > people to reuse the data in different ways, including this
> > model suggested?
> >
> > Short msg, on phone...
> >
> > tara,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On 25 Apr 2010 18:53, "Tim Green"<timoth...@gmail.com
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