START AGAIN!

[Centurion]

This discussion group has been dormant for sometime, but is now ready
to start again. Please feel free to join and begin what will hopefully
become a though provoking forum on cult involvment.

[Centurion]

[jeffd]

You group is real small.

Cult mentality is pervasive. You see it in the fringe groups. But
cult thinking is blended into mainstream society. It is there anytime
people believe uncritically what they are being told, and then put
their faith in something which is false.

Douglas Rushkoff is a writter who most impresses me with his insights.
He has a book Coercion, why we believe what they say.

Come and join our group, FreeYourThoughts
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/FreeYourThoughts

You can continue to promote your group there, and we can find other
groups one which to promote them both.

Are you involved in any interesting and active Google Groups?

[jeffd]

There is the Rick Ross institute which lists many many cults. But
cult thinking pervades many institutions.

I believe that idolotry is part of the human condition, a kind of
concretized thinking, instead of a healty spirituality.

I believe we can do well by promoting our small groups together.

Come and join our group, FreeYourThoughts
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/FreeYourThoughts

I am making a personal blog. Unless you object, I want to promote
your group, along with ours there.

Also, I want to get into some other google groups, and I will promote
both our groups in there together.

Know of any good google groups?

[jeffd]

I've invited all the members of Brainstorms. They know about
FreeYourThoughts. I've even added a few of them. But they won't post.
They know that if they did, and if they engaged in any discussions
about Brainstorms, they would be expelled. They have a big part of
their lives invested in it. But all it takes is someone to start an
uproar, and a show trial will begin. Of coarse those who administrate
BS are afraid of the mob. Old Howard Rheingold lets it run in his
name, but pretends to be powerless. Other people take the heat for
him.

The numberone rule in BS is secrecy. They really can be cruel to
people.

The next time they do it, I will use the FYT_newsletter, public
cyberspace, to feed their own words back at them.

[jeffd]

My own interest in cults has spaned many many years. First, cults are
a kind of counter culture. People agree to cooperate together, to
surrender the exercise of some freedoms, to submit to some authority,
in exchange for solidarity and some other benefits.

Are these all cults? Probably not. But they tend to turn into cults.
Counter culture movements tend to turn into cults.

I'm knowledgeable of many of them. Rajneesh, Synanon, Est, Golden
Dawn, Knights Templars, Scientology. and more.

I think cult formation is one of the risks that is run when you try to
set up a couter culture group.

[Aaron Canter]

Can we talk on the phone jeff?

-Aaron

 

[Jeff Duvall]

Call me at your convenience.    Speak into my answering machine because I screen my calls.

 

408-247-4554

 

 

I am going through a nasty divorce and am spending time in court and trying to keep a roof over my head.   I have to surrender this computer.     So my online will be substantially less for a while.

 

Jeff Duvall

 

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Let me take this opportunity to personally welcome you to Banging Your Heart.

I also encourage you to visit and join our new MSN group, Veldt.

Also, join our google group, FreeYourThoughts.

And lastly we have a newsletter list you can join.

Each of our groups has a place for you to introduce yourself.   So don't be shy.

All of this is kind of new, and so its really quite open.   Just start posting.

Don't hesitate to email me if you have any questions.

Jeff Duvall

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