Polymorph PC ver2 | ||||||||||
Price | amount | Cost | Total | |||||||
Mimic | 8 | 8 | 5 | 40 | 72 | |||||
16 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||
Useful:Dead Ringer | 4 | Dead Ringer | 32 | 1 | 32 | |||||
Quality | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity: Self | 0 | |||||||||
Endless | 3 | |||||||||
Variable Effect | 4 | |||||||||
Self only | -3 | |||||||||
Attached:Mind Scan | -2 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
Useful: Size Shift Down | 1 | |||||||||
Qualtiy | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity: Mass | 0 | |||||||||
Endless | 3 | |||||||||
Self Only | -3 | |||||||||
Attached: Dead Ringer | -2 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
Useful: Size Shift Up | 1 | |||||||||
Qualtiy | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity: Mass | 0 | |||||||||
Endless | 3 | |||||||||
Self Only | -3 | |||||||||
Attached:Dead Ringer | -2 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
Useful: Mind Scan | 2 | |||||||||
Qualtiy | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity: Range | 0 | |||||||||
Subtle | 1 | |||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Cannot read Memories or thoughts, just scan for people and basic impressions | ||||||||
Price | amount | Cost | Total | |||||||
Power Mimic | 12 | 12 | 4 | 48 | 96 | |||||
24 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||
Attack | 4 | 48 | 1 | 48 | ||||||
Quality | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity: N/A | 0 | 168 | ||||||||
Duration | 2 | |||||||||
Variable Effect | 4 | |||||||||
Attached:Mimic | -1 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Variable Effect must match subjects powers | ||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Only for Variable Effect | ||||||||
Defends | 4 | |||||||||
Quality | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity:N/A | 0 | |||||||||
Duration | 2 | |||||||||
Variable Effect | 4 | |||||||||
Attached:Mimic | -1 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Variable Effect must match subjects powers | ||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Only for Variable Effect | ||||||||
Useful | 4 | |||||||||
Quality | 2 | |||||||||
Capacity:N/A | 0 | |||||||||
Duration | 2 | |||||||||
Variable Effect | 4 | |||||||||
Attached:Mimic | -1 | |||||||||
Automatic | -1 | |||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Variable Effect must match subjects powers | ||||||||
If/Then | -1 | Only for Variable Effect | ||||||||
One issue I see is you Attached the shapechange to the mind scan. Someone might have a different opinion, but to me "Attached" means the power goes for as long as the power it's attached to is running. So the mindscan would be continual.
Alternately, us an if/then on the shapechange:
Useful (Shapechange) Extras & Flaws: Endless +3, Variable Effect +4, If Then (Must Mind Scan First) -1, If/Then: (Variable Effect is only for choosing shape of someone target knows) -1, Self Only -3. Capacity: Self
In either case you might consider dropping the size change. If the PCs is around 150 pounds, the shift will let her adopt most people without need for the size shift. Size Shift really just enables extremes. Without those components, the cost of 2hd drops a fair amount.
For the Power Mimic portion of your power, I have a slight issue which might be nitpicking. The If/Then (Variable Effect must match subject's powers), the "subject" is the person you scanned, but the form is someone they know. They haven't scanned the person, to the limitation would draw on... the subjects assumptions?
This limits the PC to powers the subject knows the person has. This means record keeping for you. :) Again, this might just be my nitpick.
That's my two cents..
Hello Longspeak, thanks for the help! I am in need of someone to bounce these build off of.One issue I see is you Attached the shapechange to the mind scan. Someone might have a different opinion, but to me "Attached" means the power goes for as long as the power it's attached to is running. So the mindscan would be continual.
What do you think about my reasoning for Attached and Automatic?
Alternately, use an if/then on the shapechange:
Useful (Shapechange) Extras & Flaws: Endless +3, Variable Effect +4, If Then (Must Mind Scan First) -1, If/Then: (Variable Effect is only for choosing shape of someone target knows) -1, Self Only -3. Capacity: Selfyeah I like this...Thanks!
In either case you might consider dropping the size change. If the PCs is around 150 pounds, the shift will let her adopt most people without need for the size shift. Size Shift really just enables extremes. Without those components, the cost of 2hd drops a fair amount.
Well the Player expressed the ability to go from a 3 year old to Andre the Giant so I though Size Shift was needed...+ its like 1 point
For the Power Mimic portion of your power, I have a slight issue which might be nitpicking. The If/Then (Variable Effect must match subject's powers), the "subject" is the person you scanned, but the form is someone they know. They haven't scanned the person, to the limitation would draw on... the subjects assumptions?
Damn good catch I didn't even see that. So I will talk to the Player that maybe Power Mimic isn't a good fit with the drawback that they were so keen on.
This limits the PC to powers the subject knows the person has. This means record keeping for you. :) Again, this might just be my nitpick.
Yeah I am not to keen on lots of extra record keeping...That's my two cents..
Man you rock thanks! I have 4 other PC's power sets created if you have some spare time and the inclination you mind giving them a critical eye?
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Sean Worcester <worcest...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Longspeak, thanks for the help! I am in need of someone to bounce these build off of.One issue I see is you Attached the shapechange to the mind scan. Someone might have a different opinion, but to me "Attached" means the power goes for as long as the power it's attached to is running. So the mindscan would be continual.What do you think about my reasoning for Attached and Automatic?The reasoning hinges on the interpretation of the Attached flaw. I'd love a more experienced person to weigh in, but I stand by my interpretation for now. A -2 flaw is supposed to be pretty limiting, so I'd say the Attached power isn't dependent on the activation of the primary power, but on the continuous operation of the primary power. If the primary goes down, the attached power goes down.
I was thinking about it and I realized I also don't like Automatic Flaw for this power. Imagine the Player scanning someone and finding no useful candidates for copying. But the automatic flaw means he MUST change into someone. Could be good for one time comedy relief. :P
John--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cult of ORE" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cult-of-ore...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to cult-...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cult-of-ore.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Sean --I agree with John about Attached (and Automatic). Attached, by the book, means that you can only get a set with the quality when the quality (or miracle, skill, or stat) that it's attached to has a set. Duration, etc. implicitly repeat the initially rolled set until the duration ends or it's canceled.Oh, and any Attached quality that doesn't have Permanent will require you to roll an action to activate.
Permanent lets you roll it instantly as a non-action as soon as the power it's attached activates. If you want complex transformations with Size Shift or power mimicry to take longer (requiring multiple sets, and/or sets over additional turns) leave it as-is. I'd ditch Automatic, though, since it requires you to attempt multiple actions with Automatic powers EVERY TIME you activate the quality it's attached to, even if you don't need to change size or emulate powers!Also, I actually find your spreadsheet power layout hard to read, and it makes the message long enough that it's getting clipped by Gmail or Google Groups (so I have to open the full message in another tab). I'm personally more likely to offer feedback if it's in a more concise format, like the common one used in the books.
--