MaOCT - More Spray Questions

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crash2455

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Mar 2, 2012, 7:21:35 PM3/2/12
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Members in my group have gotten into a few small hypothetical discussions on how Spray and Splitting Actions works in certain cases.

Splitting Actions
This is the big one.  It is basically written that every rank of spray lets you use an extra set of matches for free.  If you split actions exclusively using a part with spray (which is, take 2 actions with a spray bit), do you drop a die and then use another set of matches on top of that if applicable (That is, splitting actions with Spray x1 lets you drop a die to use 3 sets)?

Additionally, how do you count splitting actions if using multiple parts with spray?  Do you count the spray numbers from both parts and add sets equal to those (splitting actions on 2 parts with spray x1 would potentially allow you to use 4 sets)?

With Awesome x2
The way we've played it for a while is that splitting actions with multiple Awesome x2 locations basically allows you to set 2 dice after the roll only to create matches for each part.  That is 2, different locations following a 0,3,4,5,5,9 roll could make 2x10 and 3x5 (or 2x9 if you want higher rolls).  

One player realized that following this, they could potentially split actions multiple times with the same Awesome x2 location and split actions until they have just slightly over half the dice needed to make a match on everything.  Obviously this was vetoed by the GM for being munckinly as all getup, but it prompted some discussion.

The way that I've looked at this one is to go to Wild Talents and just treat Awesome x2 as a wiggle die.  Splitting actions with 2 abilities with 1wd apiece would give you 2wd to the total roll if I recall correctly.  However, splitting further actions on top of that would not add further wd.  Does this sound correct?

Thanks.

Shane Ivey

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Mar 2, 2012, 9:37:16 PM3/2/12
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Splitting Actions
This is the big one.  It is basically written that every rank of spray lets you use an extra set of matches for free.  If you split actions exclusively using a part with spray (which is, take 2 actions with a spray bit), do you drop a die and then use another set of matches on top of that if applicable (That is, splitting actions with Spray x1 lets you drop a die to use 3 sets)?

If you roll that many sets, yes.

But at least one set needs to be used on the action that had the Spray dice. 

 
Additionally, how do you count splitting actions if using multiple parts with spray?  Do you count the spray numbers from both parts and add sets equal to those (splitting actions on 2 parts with spray x1 would potentially allow you to use 4 sets)?

I'm not sure what you mean by multiple parts. For multiple actions, you use the smallest of all the dice pools involved.

With Awesome x2
The way we've played it for a while is that splitting actions with multiple Awesome x2 locations basically allows you to set 2 dice after the roll only to create matches for each part.  That is 2, different locations following a 0,3,4,5,5,9 roll could make 2x10 and 3x5 (or 2x9 if you want higher rolls).  

Again for multiple actions you don't add the dice pools together, you use the lowest one. So you won't get two Awesomex2 dice. Just the one from the dice pool that you wind up using.

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crash2455

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Mar 2, 2012, 10:31:36 PM3/2/12
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Additionally, how do you count splitting actions if using multiple parts with spray?  Do you count the spray numbers from both parts and add sets equal to those (splitting actions on 2 parts with spray x1 would potentially allow you to use 4 sets)?

I'm not sure what you mean by multiple parts. For multiple actions, you use the smallest of all the dice pools involved.


I mean for using multiple bits on a monster.  If I were to split an Attacks part (like Horrible Claws 7d, Attacks, Gnarly x3) and a Defends part (Hopping Feet 8d, Defends, Wicked Fast x2), I would get the attacks and defends qualities, obviously dropping 1 die and using the lowest pool (the Horrible Claws pool).  Do I only add the extras from the lowest pool (Gnarly x3) to all matches then?

Shane Ivey

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Mar 2, 2012, 10:37:35 PM3/2/12
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I mean for using multiple bits on a monster.  If I were to split an Attacks part (like Horrible Claws 7d, Attacks, Gnarly x3) and a Defends part (Hopping Feet 8d, Defends, Wicked Fast x2), I would get the attacks and defends qualities, obviously dropping 1 die and using the lowest pool (the Horrible Claws pool).  Do I only add the extras from the lowest pool (Gnarly x3) to all matches then?

In that case you would roll 6d. If you get two sets, use one for Claws and the other for Feet. The Claws set gets Gnarly x3. The Feet set gets Wicked Fast x2.

crash2455

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Mar 2, 2012, 11:12:28 PM3/2/12
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In that case you would roll 6d. If you get two sets, use one for Claws and the other for Feet. The Claws set gets Gnarly x3. The Feet set gets Wicked Fast x2.


So by extension, if we add Awesome x2 to both of those, do we give both potential sets of matches Awesome x2? 

Shane Ivey

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Mar 2, 2012, 11:22:52 PM3/2/12
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Awesome x2 applies to the monster power's dice pool, not the individual sets. If the dice pool that you're using has Awesome x2, then it applies.

So even if both Claws and Feet had Awesome x2, you'd still be choosing only one of those to roll. You'd roll 6d and you could turn any one die to another value.




On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:12 PM, crash2455 <jesse...@gmail.com> wrote:
In that case you would roll 6d. If you get two sets, use one for Claws and the other for Feet. The Claws set gets Gnarly x3. The Feet set gets Wicked Fast x2.


So by extension, if we add Awesome x2 to both of those, do we give both potential sets of matches Awesome x2? 

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crash2455

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Mar 2, 2012, 11:30:16 PM3/2/12
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Okay, that's what I wanted to know.  Thanks!

Kevin L. Nault

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Mar 2, 2012, 11:44:40 PM3/2/12
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One followup question:

If only the smaller pool has Awesome x2, it still applies?

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Shane Ivey

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Mar 3, 2012, 11:18:50 AM3/3/12
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Yes, but use the Awesome die only on a set for the power that has Awesome.

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