A20 version out

[Hans Harder]

Seems someone already brought out an A20 dev board

http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a20-dev-board-p-60.html?cPath=33

[Tom Cubie]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Hans Harder <ha...@atbas.org> wrote:
> Seems someone already brought out an A20 dev board
>
> http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a20-dev-board-p-60.html?cPath=33

Ha, they are quick. We have tested some A20 cubies, below is what works:
NAND, USB host, USB otg, uSD, HDMI, VGA, 100M Ethernet, IR.

Sata driver is not ported yet, and mali400mp2 and cedarx is not tested yet.

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[Tom Cubie]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Tom Cubie <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Hans Harder <ha...@atbas.org> wrote:
>> Seems someone already brought out an A20 dev board
>>
>> http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a20-dev-board-p-60.html?cPath=33
>
> Ha, they are quick. We have tested some A20 cubies, below is what works:
> NAND, USB host, USB otg, uSD, HDMI, VGA, 100M Ethernet, IR.
>
> Sata driver is not ported yet, and mali400mp2 and cedarx is not tested yet.

There is still some way to go before ready to use stage, but we will
ship some a20 cubieboard(cubieboardii) to developers first. And the
further plan is the pcb will be changed to another revision, changing
the 100M ethernet to 1000M ethernet, adding the rtc and battery power
etc.

[Silverio Diquigiovanni]

Great, RTC battery is what really missed :)

Go fast fastboi hipboi

[Bastiaan van den Berg]

awesome news tom!!!

Can't wait :)

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[Martin Wild]

Yeah, thats wan i want to hear!!

Cant wait to get an a20 Cubie!!!

Go On Tom !

[Marcos Martinez Garcia]

Great news Tom,

I'll order one as soon as cubieboardii will be available.

Thanks.

2013/4/13 Martin Wild <lilc...@gmail.com>

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[Andrius Kurtinaitis]

> Ha, they are quick. We have tested some A20 cubies, below is what works: 

> NAND, USB host, USB otg, uSD, HDMI, VGA, 100M Ethernet, IR.

Nice to hear that VGA works. Any chance to see it on Cubieboard?

 

> Sata driver is not ported yet, and mali400mp2 and cedarx is not tested yet. 

These are also very needed.

 

There is still some way to go before ready to use stage, but we will 
ship some a20 cubieboard(cubieboardii) to developers first. And the
further plan is the pcb will be changed to another revision, changing
the 100M ethernet to 1000M ethernet, adding the rtc and battery power

Gigabit ethernet is welcome.

I do not need RTC nor battery.

[John Gentilin]

How about Power over Ethernet or Wireless ?

[RipZ]

What would be the approximate price of new Cubie?

[João Vilaça]

Sold out already. I was considering buying one but apparently took to long :)

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Hans Harder <ha...@atbas.org> wrote:

Seems someone already brought out an A20 dev board

http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a20-dev-board-p-60.html?cPath=33

[cubieboard]

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM, RipZ <v.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What would be the approximate price of new Cubie?

Price will remain the same.

[LinBaiRui]

Will A10 cubies still be available? Any plans for 2GB RAM version of Cubie2? (If A20 even supports 2GB...)

[Dieter Reuter]

Tom, 

1G Ethernet would be great.

When do you expect, that the cubieboardii could be available?

And what about a 2GByte version? 

Dieter

[Pawel Borecki]

+1 on that, You have a customer in me, I would get like 3 or 4 of them as soon as they will be available. :)

[Martin Wild]

Yeah , i'll also order instantly !

2Gb Ram is maybe a bit oversized for this performance level , but getting rid of this crappy WEMAC-ethernet-thing needs to be done!!
(realtek chips cannot be this expensive ,and they do what they are build for! )


Martin

[Silverio Diquigiovanni]

I'm ready to purchase same A20 version and try them with many different LCD displays

and different touch screen digitizers.

At moment 2GB ram isn't my priority target but, depending by price, to have so much ram

could be very interesting because I could think to run 2 different OS in same CPU,

one for core (with iMX6 dual core that was possible). So android in first and a RTOS in

second.

Il giorno sabato 13 aprile 2013 18:10:05 UTC+2, Hans Harder ha scritto:

[Uhrheber]

I don't think that I will buy one, the documentation of the Allwinner
chips is too sparse, and Allwinner doesn't seem to be willing or able to
support the community.
It's likely that some problems will never be solved.

Therefore I'm thinking of leaving the Allwinner chips behind and
changing to i.mx6.
Those seem to be well documented and supported.

[Charudatt Uplap]

USB 3.0 would also be welcomed. 2GB and 1000M off Ethernet is good news.

[Patrick Wood]

Will it be possible to run the A20 reliably at 1.2GHz?

[Pedro Loureiro]

I think that a pin header for power and reset would be a simple and very good feature too.

[Tom Cubie]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Dieter Reuter
<reuter...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> 1G Ethernet would be great.
> When do you expect, that the cubieboardii could be available?
> And what about a 2GByte version?

Yes, the founder of a Chinese startup focus on cloud and big data
visited our office, they wanted to use cubieboards in their project.
And they said the cpu performance is enough, no matter A10, A20, A31,
the 2GB ram is what they need. They use nosql database, which eat a
lot of ram. So, yes, there will be 2GB ram cubies.

[Silverio Diquigiovanni]

2GB is a great step UP !

[jose xavier]

Exelent News . Any idea when it will be avaiable?

B.R.

Jose Xavier 

Porto-Portugal

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[Calvin Ngei]

Please add VGA support!
You do not have to develop the new A20 board from scratch.
Be quick!

在 2013年4月14日星期日UTC+8上午12时10分05秒，Hans Harder写道：

[John Gentilin]

Snap the 2mm connector headers to grid.  I just tried to attach a 2mm prototype board and found that the connectors need to pitch inwards to make it thru the holes. Measuring center to center of the pins across the board, I get 52.8 mm.

Please no big bulky legacy connectors, base boards can provide that functionality if needed.

[Tejinder Singh]

Lower overall height of cubieboard

1. SATA exit parallel to board instead of perpendicular, like this http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_19735_1.jpg

or http://www.cooldrives.com/lib/cooldrives/esata-sata-sata-II-ports.jpg

2. Half height ethernet.

3. USB ports alternated (one on each side of pcb instead 2, like headphone n mic socket)

The first point is the most important, because every sata connector coming out perpendicular adds at the bare minimum 10.5 mm more over the height of the connector soldered on to the board.

Making this horizontal will be a significant help in vertical space usage, after that if you can do the other 2 mods it'd bring the vertical profile of the cubieboard VERY low.

Option to not have the pinout headers soldered.

--Teji

[Christian Sturm]

Dear Tom,

"Yes, the founder of a Chinese startup focus on cloud and big data .... A10, A20, A31...

lot of ram. So, yes, there will be 2GB ram cubies."

if you have a look at HP Moonshot attempt to create ARM based Microserverblades, and maybe have a look at Calxeda Arm Microserver Blades, i think it would be worth to think of an A31 based reduced(techincal/feature/priceing) lowcost Microserver-Board...
your Customer proves that this would is neccessary at the growing market of Arm-Servers/Blades.

I think you are the right person and its the right time to do a "feature"less Microserverboard maybe based on Cubieboard.
You are familar with Allwinner... and A31 is a really good lowcost Soc and i think at this time one of the most usable Socs for developing a "Cubieblade"-Microserverboard ;)

Some of us are thinking of Gigabit-Ethernet, an A31, some Gigs of Ram / SD-Card and nothing else. No HDMI, No USB, just good Soc and some space to store Data.
All an admin needs is an SSH able Image then.

With this minimum attempt of an A31 Serverboard you will have a most reduced board capable for Server usage... and i think there are some people outthere... Admins, Hobbyists and HomeautomationPeople would like such a reduced and performant Lowcost Variant of Cubieboard too.

I am really sure of it.

So maybe think about that Arm-Server Train leaving the trainstop actually... and think of doing such a train too :)
Market is increasing... and there are Raspberry Pi Serverfarms/Clouds, Mele Serverracks... time to get the community the better hardware they dream of... :)

Thank you! and with best regards,

Chris

[Pawel Borecki]

Dont want to be rude for You but I belive we should leave this thread for A20 dev discussion.
Surely we can open another one for A31 development if this topic will be more popular (is it already ?).

[dydy Dorin]

Any news here, on the next next version?
i know there a re few a10 left in some shops, but i want the dual core as i need to mount it in a CARPUTING multimedia sistem.
I also suggest a version only with hdmi and uSD conector in order to fit in low rise systems.

[Manuel Quinteiro]

Wow, it looks like wishlist :)

It will be gread two ethernets ports.

Thaks for your work Cubie.

[Markus Langer]

nice! i can't wait to have 1Gb ethernet interface on that.

[Per-Mattias Nordkvist]

I could not agree more. Limiting the height would make this board fit better in different environments. 

[Benjamin Henrion]

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tom Cubie <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Hans Harder <ha...@atbas.org> wrote:
>> Seems someone already brought out an A20 dev board
>>
>> http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a20-dev-board-p-60.html?cPath=33
>

> Ha, they are quick. We have tested some A20 cubies, below is what works:
> NAND, USB host, USB otg, uSD, HDMI, VGA, 100M Ethernet, IR.

A20 does not has gigabit?

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[Henrik Nordström]

ons 2013-05-29 klockan 21:59 +0200 skrev Benjamin Henrion:
> > Ha, they are quick. We have tested some A20 cubies, below is what works:
> > NAND, USB host, USB otg, uSD, HDMI, VGA, 100M Ethernet, IR.
>
> A20 does not has gigabit?

It does, but requires a bit more work to change to a Gbit PHY and
possibly related board changes as well.

Regards
Henrik

[Rosimildo DaSilva]

Is there a spec of the A20 board, what has changed ? what is new, etc.

Any pin changes on the headers ?

Is battery added to the RTC ?

thanks.
R

[dydy Dorin]

Olimex has a pretty complex board put for 65 euro + vat + shipping.

Tom, do you have a timeline for a20?

[dydy Dorin]

[Luis Matoso]

Any news??

[Maurizio RTOSkit]

 is for sale on Miniand website:
https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard%20A20%20Dev%20Board

[João Vilaça]

According to the specifications posted on the site its only a 1GB board... I was expecting more from what Tom posted in this thread. 

Will there be a later 2GB version?

Thanks