CARTRIDGE FIX .... NO CHIP REQUIRED.

2,241 views
Skip to first unread message

blackh...@gmail.com

unread,
Nov 27, 2013, 9:07:22 PM11/27/13
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com

After suffering the same problems as everyone here we have come up with a fix for the CUBEX cartridge problem. 

The attached photos show a drive tool for a cordless drill, and a cartridge spool. 
We would be interested in selling a kit to users that would include a driver tool, a cartridge with enough material to print your own first spool, the bfb and stl files
for the spool and kissslicer config files. 

There is zero modifications required to the CUBEX to run cartridges without chips, only settings in KISS, but you will need at least one cartridge and a tool, to 
get started printing your own spools problem free. 

The cost is $150 cdn. + shipping depending on your location. We are located in western Canada, all duties ect are purchasers responsibility.  

You receive   

(1) Drill Driver Tool
(1) Spool with enough material to print another spool

- bfb and stl spool files
- Kissslicer config files 

Instructions to never use " chips " in cartridges again.
If anyone is interested let us know. 


spool.JPG
driver.JPG
running.JPG

Tony Shulthise

unread,
Dec 1, 2013, 12:26:13 AM12/1/13
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com
You would do the 3D printer community a big favor if you just told how to bypass the chip.  No need to rewind spools... the chip bypass is all that's required.  The CubeX has done a lot of harm to our community with 500% price markups on filament and buggy software/firmware.  Bypassing the chip to save big $$$ would help ease the pain of many disillusioned users.

I've moved on to a different printer but still check here to try to stick up for those who are going through what I went through with the CubeX. 

Buyers beware... The chip isn't connected to the spool in any way.  It just contains a number that the printer firmware tracks.  The printer knows how much filament it has pulled off of each chip ID.  No spool rewinds required...  Don't pay any money until you are sure whatever the OP is offering really works. You won't know until you get to the end of a spool and leave the cartridge in while feeding filament from a different spool.

CubeX 3D Printman

unread,
Dec 1, 2013, 1:41:13 AM12/1/13
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com
As posted in the Kisslicer forum, no chipped cartridge needed with latest Kisslicer settings.
Other users in this forum have posted which aftermarket brand works and has the same filament diameter than the cubify filament, since the CubeX is sensitive to the filament diameter. 1.70mm.

blackh...@gmail.com

unread,
Dec 1, 2013, 11:30:16 AM12/1/13
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com
To address your concerns regarding the chip ... please see updated photo ... when I say no chip .... its no chip period.
Secondly if your cardboard spools are all falling apart and the filament is collapsing down to the center core, chip by pass or not you will still be unable to print for very long.

I unfortunately don't work for free, nor am I able to obtain free materials for prototyping ect. We are currently working on a PCB and proper fix for the Z-Gap issues also, the development 
of solutions to these problems is time consuming and require investment. 

When the Z-Gap prototyping is complete it will be offered to anyone that "purchased" the spool fix at a $150 discount also.

This is 3D's problem, and they are unfortunately not dealing with it, and I am in complete agreement with the pressure that everyone is applying, But at the same time I am not holding my breath.
no chip.jpg
Z-GAP FIX.jpg

Tony Shulthise

unread,
Dec 2, 2013, 1:48:32 AM12/2/13
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com
Be careful using that type of dial indicator.  The spring force of the indicator may be enough to overcome the initial preload of the platform springs and the spring rate of the platform structure itself.  The CubeX platform system is not very stiff at all.  If that happens it will cause small (very small) deflections which will cause z offset errors.  

I had this problem when testing a 3 axis system I was designing for a customer that required 25 micron accuracy.  When I used a dial indicator just like that one I could never get consistent readings.  When I moved the system to a granite table I never had an issue.  Eventually it dawned on me that even though the spring force of the dial indicator was not very strong, it was enough to move my table and throw off the readings by 20-50 microns.  I switched to a lighter force dial indicator and then I got the +/-5 micron repeatability I was looking for.  This may or may not be an issue depending on the spring force of your indicator compared to the force required to deflect the bed.  It WILL cause some deflection but you won't know how much unless you use an ultra low force indicator to check.

You may want to consider replacing the dial indicator spring with a lighter one or removing the spring altogether and just letting gravity do the job.

BTW, anything that frees users from the burden of Cubify's filament price gouging is wonderful.

seek.p...@gmail.com

unread,
May 14, 2014, 10:59:54 PM5/14/14
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com, blackh...@gmail.com
So could I apply your configuration and then buy the 4 kg spools to use rather than the pitiful cubify spools?

Giovanni

unread,
May 15, 2014, 12:54:31 AM5/15/14
to cubex-3d...@googlegroups.com, blackh...@gmail.com, seek.p...@gmail.com
Hi, there is a better solution now, use Kisslicer with CubeItMod V4.5, go here :
the forum requires subscription.
With CubeItMod you'll not only print without original cartridges but you'll also improve the print quality.

stac...@gmail.com

unread,
Sep 19, 2016, 9:13:12 PM9/19/16
to CubeX 3D Printing, tshul...@gmail.com
"....The chip isn't connected to the spool in any way.  It just contains a number that the printer firmware tracks.  The printer knows how much filament it has pulled off of each chip ID....."

So in essence, once the firmware determines it has exhausted the existing cartridge, which it identifies by the chip, it then renders that particular cartridge useless from then on because it identifies that chip id with EMPTY?

Jetguy

unread,
Sep 21, 2016, 10:40:11 AM9/21/16
to CubeX 3D Printing, tshul...@gmail.com, stac...@gmail.com
Yes, correct, this is true for the Gen3 as well.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages