Project management Revisited

CubeSpawn

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Jul 27, 2012, 10:32:18 PM7/27/12

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Just set up an account on "Zoho" -its a free online project manager, not too different from the one Sam Rose setup in 2009 or so...

let me know if you'd like to be added to the project site.

Thanks - James

Bruce Wattendorf

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Nov 11, 2012, 1:03:18 PM11/11/12

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James,

How about starting a Wiki so we all can collaborate with our ideas. (I have a ton of ideas in my head)

I think it worked well with Reprap.

I am willing to set one up I have a server that I can host it on..

Bruce Wattendorf

Leo Dearden

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Nov 11, 2012, 1:38:16 PM11/11/12

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Please add me.

Suggestion of Wiki (somewhere) seconded.

I too have places to host it and would be glad to set it up alongside the Wiki I'm already hosting, if that would be helpful.

Leo

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Adam Gmail

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Nov 11, 2012, 4:06:18 PM11/11/12

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Hi James,

It's been a while. I would like to be added as well

Thanks

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Data Pathway

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Nov 11, 2012, 4:46:03 PM11/11/12

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OK wild wiki'ers

your all in, O' course...

but, what shall we do? I'm not overly concerned with who hosts it though I do appreciate the offers and I'm not oppose to either of you doing the hosting, but I offer this as an alternative:

The ZOHO project site also has a wiki, and I'd be a fool if I didn't put a wiki on cubespawn.com at some point....

but I know precisely nil (or is it null) about wiki-age and I don't know what format the wiki on Zoho is but thier formatting is some mildly strange not-quite-html commands (why must everyone re-invent?)

so the simplelst solution from my perspective is to let you two either work out whos doin' the wiki - or let you mirror each other....

Feedback, Please

James

Leo Dearden

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Nov 11, 2012, 5:15:27 PM11/11/12

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Wikis: they rock.

I know what I learned in about an hour after installing Medaiwiki (as used by Wikipedia) using the simplescripts installer provided by my hosting. That's been enough to cover all my needs to date. see reprapkit.com/wiki if you're interested. The logo isn't set yet because I don't have a logo yet. :-)

Type of wiki doesn't matter much, but thinking ahead we should avoid crucial project info getting stuck in a data jail. I don't have any hard info, but I'm concerned about the ZOHO wiki on that front. Does anyone know what happens when we want to move our wiki off ZOHO? Exporters, etc?

IMHO, wherever you put a wiki is the place it should stay for the forseeable future. If there's much point in having it in the first place then it's going to get some outside link love. If that happens, then when you move it you're going to want to set up redirects in perpetuity, so it's better if you just put it where you know you want it in the first place.

Where, if you don't mind my asking, is cubespawn.com hosted? I don't want the best to be the enemy of the good here, but could we skip directly to cubespawn.com/wiki?

Leo

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Data Pathway

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Nov 11, 2012, 5:31:43 PM11/11/12

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its been a couple places but cubespawn in on ANHosting now they also let you script install a bewildering plethora of "stuff" via a portal to script installs call softaculous - the wiki's I can install are: MediaWiki 1.20, DokuWiki, WikkaWiki, PmWiki, and MediaWiki 1.19 (?) dunno why but there must be a version preference crowd out there...

the same flexibility applies to a mind-boggling array of other components like blogs, forums, carts, Project management, ERP, etcererama

so I could setup the wiki framework easily enough on the main site - then perhaps turn you Wiki-ateers loose on it?

I'll run the script and begin the puzzle....

Data Pathway

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Nov 11, 2012, 5:33:03 PM11/11/12

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oh what's the preference?

the WikiMedia one?
1.19? or 1.20?

I'll wait for your feedback...

Leo Dearden

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Nov 11, 2012, 5:47:12 PM11/11/12

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I don't know. Lacking contrary evidence, I'd be inclined towards 1.20: more is better, after all. :-)

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Samuel Rose

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Nov 11, 2012, 5:52:03 PM11/11/12

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I'd recommend keeping up to date with stable release of mediawiki,
since there are performance, bug, and security fixes ongoing

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John Griessen

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Nov 11, 2012, 6:56:38 PM11/11/12

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On 11/11/2012 04:15 PM, Leo Dearden wrote:
> we should avoid crucial project info getting stuck in a data jail.

+1 "With Zoho, you focus on your business while we take care of the rest ..."
sounds like a Microsoft or Apple sales blurb, so it's suspicious. Don't know about it.

Here's a little from the wikipedia on zoho's software as a service: "Software as a service (SaaS, pronounced sæs or sɑs[1]),
sometimes referred to as "on-demand software", is a software delivery model in which software and associated data are centrally
hosted on the cloud. SaaS is typically accessed by users using a thin client via a web browser." "According to a Gartner Group
estimate,[6] SaaS sales in 2010 reached $10 billion"

Zoho is all about sales.

MediaWiki seems fine. Not familiar with its guts, but have seen it in action and it's able.
And it's not so suspect of lock-in since it's GPL v2 or later code you can use.

From the downloaded tarball of MediaWiki's source code README: "excellent range of features and
support for high-traffic websites using
multiple servers (Wikimedia sites peak in the 100K+ requests per second range" <snip>
"While quite usable on smaller sites, you may find you have to "roll your own"
local documentation, and some aspects of configuration may seem overcomplicated
because MediaWiki is primarily targeted as an in-house tool."

How about MoinMoin (translates to LessLess)? Also GPL.

On 11/11/2012 04:20 PM, Leo Dearden wrote:
> I'm too busy making better RepRaps to divert to other design tasks). :-)

What do you think of smoothieware? Can it adapt to different GUI front ends?

John

Data Pathway

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Nov 12, 2012, 9:59:24 AM11/12/12

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ok - just pushed the button a few minutes ago the (raw) wiki is here

http://cubespawn.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Those who know, please advise on locking it down as/if neccesary and I'll do whatever admin to let you in or elevate your status...

have at it and I'll start to add stuff too...

Bruce Wattendorf

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Nov 12, 2012, 1:12:25 PM11/12/12

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I added to the main page and it seems like i might have taken down the server?

Bruce Wattendorf

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Nov 12, 2012, 1:28:15 PM11/12/12

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No worries i can log back in again

Samuel Rose

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Nov 12, 2012, 1:46:07 PM11/12/12

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If people don't like to do project management in proprietary environs,
I can suggest that I have done project management right in mediawiki
in the past, and it works pretty nicely. You can just use the category
system and come up with categories for status of task - wiki pages.
Just an idea, anyway.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Data Pathway <data.p...@gmail.com> wrote: