Re: [CTZEN-dev] Re: Lower CO2 Emission - Ideas for environmental protection and cost savings

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Moira Shek

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Jun 12, 2009, 6:20:20 PM6/12/09
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"Raise our awareness." We can put Shifu's teaching of mindfulness in practice.  Thanks to Michael and Cathy's spearheading, I thought of also sharing some information on CO2 Emission (compiled from various web sites.) Let's live and prosper for the generations to come! … (hmm, I wonder if there is any CO2 emission to beam James Kirk and Spock on board. Shouldn't they have resolved all the environmental problems by then? …)

 

Green by a Mile: Go Carbon Neutral on Your Next Flight

… the average American drives 10,000 - 15,000 miles each year, it takes only a trip to Europe for a West Coaster, a trip to Hawaii for an East Coaster or a couple of cross-country flights to do as much damage (or more) as you do during an entire year of commuting and cruising in your car.

 

I searched further and found out that a long haul international flight from San Francisco to Taipei generates 4.76 tonnes of CO2 in one RT flight. A short haul domestic light from San Jose to Seattle generates 0.46 tonnes CO2. A 2009 model of Honda Accord 4-dr sedan emits 9,782 lb CO2 a year. Use Carbon footprint calculator to find out more…

 

At the [recent] Eco-Aviation Conference in Washington, Air New Zealand’s Chief Pilot Captain David Morgan announced the company’s findings on a test flight from last December. Powered by a combination of biofuel and jet fuel, the test resulted in a fuel savings of 1.2%. It also cut CO2 emissions by over 60%! While a 1.2% fuel savings doesn’t seem like much, that is over 1 ton of fuel! Such a reduction in fuel burn would result in a significant reduction in carbon emissions, saving approximately 4.5 tonnes of CO2.

 

There are various offset programs where the funds are used to support environmental projects across the globe, e.g. ClimateCare , CO2Balance. As summer vacations are gearing up, maybe we could encourage people to consider contribution to one of the "offset" funds or projects if they'd fly long distance.

 

The ClimateCare website also includes some 50 ideas to live a lower carbon lifestyle -- another good list to browse through and perhaps add some more ideas to what's noted ny Cathy and Michael's. 

 

Let low carbon living will become a part of our Zen lifestyle.

 

Moira Shek

Sutra Class, Zen Center of Sunnyvale




 

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From: michael sung
Sent: Jun 12, 2009 5:28 PM
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Subject: [CTZEN-dev] Re: ideas for environmental protection and cost savings


Hi,

I'd like to add a fifth item to Cathy's list, that is to paint the Zen
Center's roof white. Hopefully members of the Zen Center can present
the idea to their employers so more roofs can be painted to white or
lighter color.

The Zen Center has painted the roof area surrounding our solar panels
white. We can go one step further. The white roof can make building
cooler, therefore reduce air condition use; it reflect the sunlight
right back without absorbing it that would reduce greenhouse gas; the
solar panels gets more sunlight etc.

California actually has a requirement all new building's roof be
white.

This action was mentioned by Steven Chu as well. Here is a link of
news report:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1188956/Now-Obamas-administration-agrees-Paint-houses-white-solve-global-warming.html

(white roofed houses does not look as bad as you think!!!)

Pauline Yeung

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Jun 14, 2009, 6:38:28 PM6/14/09
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Jumping back to idea (3). The commercial dish washer I used before
has a long work area attached to it to make work flow efficient. The
dish washer itself does not take that much room as you can see in the
products from one vendor in the link below. All new models are
Energy Star certified, and use less than 1 gallon of water per cycle,
which is probably more efficient than hand washing dishes.

http://www.dvorsons.com/Jet-Tech/Dishwashers/Washer.html

Pauline

On Jun 12, 3:20 pm, Moira Shek <ms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "Raise our awareness." We can put Shifu's teaching of mindfulness in practice. Thanks to Michael and Cathy's spearheading, I thought of also sharing some information on CO2 Emission (compiled from various web sites.) Let's live and prosper for the generations to come! … (hmm, I wonder if there is any CO2 emission to beam James Kirk and Spock on board. Shouldn't they have resolved all the environmental problems by then? …)
>
>  
>
> Green by a Mile: Go Carbon Neutral on Your Next Flight
>
> … the average American drives 10,000 - 15,000 miles each year, it takes only a trip toEuropefor a West Coaster, a trip toHawaiifor an East Coaster or a couple of cross-country flights to do as much damage (or more) as you do during an entire year of commuting and cruising in your car.
>
>  
>
> I searched further and found out that a long haul international flight from San Francisco to Taipei generates 4.76 tonnes of CO2 inone RT flight. A short haul domestic light from San Jose to Seattle generates 0.46 tonnes CO2. A 2009 model of Honda Accord 4-dr sedan emits 9,782 lb CO2a year. UseCarbon footprint calculatorto find out more…
>
>  
>
> At the [recent] Eco-Aviation Conference in Washington, Air New Zealand’s Chief Pilot Captain David Morganannouncedthe company’s findings on a test flight from last December. Powered by a combination of biofuel and jet fuel, the test resulted in a fuel savings of 1.2%. It also cut CO2 emissions by over 60%! While a 1.2% fuel savings doesn’t seem like much, that is over 1 ton of fuel! Such a reduction in fuel burn would result in a significant reduction in carbon emissions, saving approximately 4.5 tonnes of CO2.
>
>  
>
> There are various offset programs where the funds are used to support environmental projects across the globe, e.g.ClimateCare,CO2Balance. As summer vacations are gearing up, maybe we could encourage people to consider contribution to one of the "offset" funds or projects if they'd fly long distance.
>
>  
>
> The ClimateCare website also includes some50 ideas to live a lower carbon lifestyle-- another good list to browse through and perhaps add some more ideas to what's noted ny Cathy and Michael's. 

Jianhu Shi

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Jun 15, 2009, 4:40:21 PM6/15/09
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Most Chinese families and restaurants do not use dishwashers because they don't clean well when it comes to Chinese dishes. Handwashing is used to make sure dishes are clean. Anyone has success with dishwashers in this regard?

On Jun 14, 2009 3:38 PM, "Pauline Yeung" <paulin...@gmail.com> wrote:


Jumping back to idea (3).   The commercial dish washer I used before
has a long work area attached to it to make work flow efficient.   The
dish washer itself does not take that much room as you can see in the
products from one vendor in the link below.   All new models are
Energy Star certified, and use less than 1 gallon of water per cycle,
which is probably more efficient than hand washing dishes.

http://www.dvorsons.com/Jet-Tech/Dishwashers/Washer.html

Pauline

On Jun 12, 3:20 pm, Moira Shek <ms...@mindspring.com> wrote: > "Raise our awareness." We can put Sh...

> … the average American drives 10,000 - 15,000 miles each year, it takes only a trip toEuropefor a West Coaster, a trip toHawaiifor an East Coaster or a couple of cross-country flights to do as much damage (or more) as you do during an entire year of commuting and cruising in your car.
>
>  
>
> I searched further and found out that a long haul international flight from San Francisco to Taipei generates 4.76 tonnes of CO2 inone RT flight. A short haul domestic light from San Jose to Seattle generates 0.46 tonnes CO2. A 2009 model of Honda Accord 4-dr sedan emits 9,782 lb CO2a year. UseCarbon footprint calculatorto find out more…
>
>  
>
> At the [recent] Eco-Aviation Conference in Washington, Air New Zealand’s Chief Pilot Captain David Morganannouncedthe company’s findings on a test flight from last December. Powered by a combination of biofuel and jet fuel, the test resulted in a fuel savings of 1.2%. It also cut CO2 emissions by over 60%! While a 1.2% fuel savings doesn’t seem like much, that is over 1 ton of fuel! Such a reduction in fuel burn would result in a significant reduction in carbon emissions, saving approximately 4.5 tonnes of CO2.

> >   > > There are various offset programs where the funds are used to support environmental projec...

> The ClimateCare website also includes some50 ideas to live a lower carbon lifestyle-- another good list to browse through and perhaps add some more ideas to what's noted ny Cathy and Michael's. 

> >   > > Let low carbon living will become a part of our Zen lifestyle. > >   > > Moira Shek > > Su...

M. Cathy Martin

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Jun 16, 2009, 2:33:20 PM6/16/09
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On the dishwasher idea, to achieve the maximum efficiency, a
dishwasher probably needs to have the capability to heat water (for
sanitation), a disposer (so that no rinsing is needed), be very quiet
(for obvious reasons) and of course, be Energy Star. I believe all
these features are all available in non-commercial models although it
might cost $1,000. If there is no room in the kitchen, could it be put
in the hallway where the 4 little sinks are? Water and sewer are
already at that location. It might have to be installed sideways so
the door doesn't protrude into the walkway too far. Even if we washed
only the dining bowls (e.g. not the pots and pans) we would save a lot
of water and energy.
Cathy

On Jun 15, 1:40 pm, Jianhu Shi <jia...@ctzen.org> wrote:
> Most Chinese families and restaurants do not use dishwashers because they
> don't clean well when it comes to Chinese dishes. Handwashing is used to
> make sure dishes are clean. Anyone has success with dishwashers in this
> regard?
>

Vicky Cheung

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Jun 16, 2009, 7:22:40 PM6/16/09
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If we wash dishes right away (before food scrap harden), the
dishwasher should do a decent job. For particularly soiled dishes,
soaking them in a basin of water for a while before loading into the
washer will help (I found it more efficient than using the "pre-wash"
cycle of the dishwasher).


On Jun 15, 1:40 pm, Jianhu Shi <jia...@ctzen.org> wrote:

Daniel Goldman

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:33:47 PM6/17/09
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What I've noticed (not specifically at BJM, but just in general) is some
people turn on the
hot water full while washing dishes by hand, and leave it running the
entire time. You can
waste a lot of water. And the dishes might not even end up really clean.

I think either hand-washing OR using dishwasher can be energy-efficient
and safe,
if the person is mindful. Conversely, either method can waste a lot of
water and end
up not working that well if not done right. It comes down to being
mindful and
concentrating on the task at hand. My wife calls it "zen and daily life".

My opinion is that BJM should use a dishwasher, to ensure dishes are
really clean. Full
load. Pre-rinse dishes in a pail (running water not needed). Forget
about "heated dry".
Make sure water is really hot (too hot for hand) for at least part of
the cycle. Use
"pre-heat water" if available. Don't use long cycle (not needed). If all
else fails,
carefully read manual that comes with dishwasher.

Daniel
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