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On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:31:19 PM UTC-7, Tuukka Virtaperko wrote:and what if I don't? I'm going there today, sure.
26.11.2015, 5:16, Tuukka Virtaperko kirjoitti:
> you know, just for not having a good word for everyone.
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> 26.11.2015, 5:12, Tuukka Virtaperko kirjoitti:
>> am I supposed to go back to school? It feels like they're threatening
>> me back to school.
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>> 25.11.2015, 13:32, Tuukka Virtaperko kirjoitti:
>>> John,
>>> well, congratulations. I checked out the idea you're suggesting. My
>>> intuition is it's a good one, but these take some time to process.
>>>
>>> As for my own "good idea"... I've been thinking about it this
>>> morning. I'm pretty sure I've been subjected to some kind of
>>> subliminal control, which has caused me to give up coffee, nicotine,
>>> sex and programming. Although perhaps technically allowed to
>>> program, I don't feel good enough to do that. Having no sex
>>> decreases my attention span.
>>>
>>> Everything I'd really need for happiness would be my current
>>> situation plus the following:
>>>
>>> - unrestricted access to pot, speed, acid and bupropion
>>> - regular sex with at least one woman on a weekly basis or so
>>> - no household chores
>>> - can sleep when I want to
>>>
>>> That would perhaps be an inflexible kind of happiness with little
>>> room for personal growth, but it would probably make me happy for
>>> quite a long time.
>>>
>>> I don't know where we're going now, with me hanging around downtown.
>>> Since I've given up on being allowed to code right now I wake up
>>> dreaming of killing or raping people but can't find any moral way to
>>> make these dreams come true, so I just try to get something else to
>>> think about. But I sure don't know where we're going and what I'm
>>> doing this for. I try to forget to think about myself being in
>>> charge of my life. Instead, I try to catch some subliminal messages
>>> downtown that'd tell me where to go. Yesterday they brought me to an
>>> art exhibition. For some reason I chose to run there... and I
>>> adjusted the straps of my backpack, realizing that if I were to rape
>>> someone I might need to wear the backpack securely so I could run
>>> faster.
>>>
>>> What if other people always feel as unhappy as I am during these
>>> sucky days? These days do produce memories... but little that would
>>> feel important. I can understand it's probably useful to know
>>> something about the city in which I live. I definitely trust it's
>>> useful to be able to run and to be in a good shape. But the big
>>> picture... it feels as vague as my metaphysics but the difference is
>>> I want to work on metaphysics. Of this other stuff, I don't yet
>>> trust as much in it leading to any outcome I'd approve. I do trust a
>>> little more each day, usually, but I'm still in some doubt about
>>> whether I've gotten the right idea about where we're going.
>>>
>>> It's hard to get both sex and respect. I can't have friends if I
>>> have sex with the wrong person, because my friends' friends used to
>>> punish me for that. Now they perhaps wouldn't, but now that I've
>>> already told about this I don't want to give up anymore. But I hate
>>> this and want this to end immediately so that I'd get to code, to do
>>> something useful. But I don't. I don't know what the hell am I
>>> waiting for again today. Every day seems to feel worse than the day
>>> before because people are imposing on me a lifestyle that I
>>> involuntarily reject. Imposing some straight-edge celibacy on me for
>>> its own sake would be just dumb and suggest people still have
>>> difficulty understanding me.
>>>
>>> I want to beat someone up. That's not to say I'd believe I could
>>> beat up just anyone just like that. It means what it means. I want
>>> to kick somebody's ass. That's all there's left now that I'm not
>>> allowed to do anything I like. But they've played their cards so
>>> that I seem like a crazy person if I try to tell what they're doing
>>> - how they're controlling me. And that's not even important. What's
>>> important is that I want to get back to coding, but this experiment
>>> of "straight-edge, celibate and outgoing" Tuukka has made me...
>>>
>>> ...you know, I used to get "carried away" with all those violent and
>>> sexual fantasies, but now I feel like just carrying them out. Just
>>> doing that when I wouldn't get caught. But to whom? How do I ignore
>>> all the damage? The moral issues regarding actually carrying out
>>> these fantasies seem quite great and I have difficulty fathoming why
>>> it'd be preferable that I carry them out instead of programming. But
>>> I'd like to if I wouldn't get caught.
>>>
>>> Then again, there are these so-called social skills. But they are a
>>> one-way road. If I walk up to someone and ask what they've been
>>> doing, they just tell they've been doing nothing special. But if
>>> they do that do me I tell them what I've been doing. There's no
>>> reason for me to approach people because they're so close-minded and
>>> secretive about what they do, think or feel. But if they did tell me
>>> I'd probably be bored by that. This is not an easy situation.
>>>
>>> You know, when I was a kid I liked to talk with people. But nowadays
>>> I feel like I must've liked that because back then I, too, was on
>>> the same level - because I was a kid. What to do now? I like
>>> messaging with you but discussions aren't like that when I'm out
>>> there, downtown.
>>>
>>> Do people just want me to get psychotic symptoms again or what's the
>>> deal with this? Want to see how fast I go from 100 to 0? They're
>>> fucking ruining me right now and it's not just me they're ruining
>>> but how about my work. None of them got what it takes to make this
>>> artificial intelligence, as fas as I know. And I don't know what's
>>> this thing we're doing instead. It's such a waste of time to take me
>>> to places if there's nothing for me to do there and if my unmet
>>> needs make me too confused that I'd really integrate knowledge. If
>>> you want to popularize some straight-edge celibate lifestyle for
>>> kids to look up to, well in my opinion there's nothing to look up to
>>> in my current state. I'm growing increasingly paranoid about the
>>> chance that envious inept people are just wasting my time again
>>> because I'm vulnerable in a way that makes it possible.
>>>
>>> Such as, someone I like insisted I should begin boxing. Apparently
>>> he'd like me to sustain brain damage because, to him, my problems
>>> are caused by intelligence! This is exactly what I meant when I
>>> spoke about preventing other people prevent me from helping them. He
>>> might really suggest something like that as an attempt to help...
>>> you know, not to help me, but to destroy me and to replace me with
>>> someone else who's not intelligent. And then spend the rest of his
>>> life drinking beer and hanging out with that non-intelligent person
>>> as if that had made both of us so heroic we don't need to do any more?
>>>
>>> That's *way* worse than my idea. The list I wrote. The list of
>>> things I need and want.
>>>
>>> Or this woman, who told me that I'm so good I must be ruined or
>>> something. It is not I who should be ruined. It's the confidence of
>>> a person, who suggests that to me, that should be ruined. I'm again
>>> considering sexual violence, but I shouldn't get caught.
>>>
>>> You know, usually when I try to do stupid, moronic shit to inquire,
>>> why other people suck as much as they do - when I try to imitate
>>> other people in an attempt to figure out what made them so pathetic
>>> - I end up in a mental hospital. But I get this strange feeling that
>>> some people would like me to do what I really want. But I shouldn't
>>> end up in prison because then idiots would waste almost all of my
>>> time without producing anything even remotely as valuable.
>>>
>>> I am willing to concede that perhaps I ought not to perceive women
>>> as commodities like I have implicitly done in the past. Perhaps I
>>> ought to perceive them as my victims. This much mistake on my part I
>>> could admit.
>>>
>>> But how would it be possible for me to love anymore, if love
>>> requires two or more people to take for granted a kind of an
>>> equality I fought so hard to eliminate?
>>>
>>> Where does that even come from? The coincidence of love and
>>> equality? I don't remember reading that from the Bible or Quran. Who
>>> the fuck thought of that?
>>>
>>> Some atheist who'd make noise of having nothing to die for? Such a
>>> fucking idiot would've never met a psychopath. If I'd do what I
>>> want, I'd be a murderer and a rapist. It was for you that I chose
>>> programming and I intend to choose that in the future, too, even if
>>> you were such children you'd fail to understand what good it's for
>>> you. It's not good for you because it prevents me from murdering and
>>> raping. It's not intended for *preventing* anything. It is an act of
>>> creation, not an act of prevention. But now you are trying to create
>>> me as I am with my instincts, and I don't know why the fuck you all
>>> want that and why I should believe it's safe enough.
>>>
>>> I'm exactly the kind of a person who, if I'd draw someone else's
>>> blood - the blood of someone I don't need - I'd always want more of
>>> that. Always until I'd get old. Perhaps even then.
>>>
>>> You want to be part of a fucking horror story instead of getting an
>>> artificial intelligence?
>>>
>>> Well, at least there's a way back... I'm sure programming would feel
>>> even better than that. I can't know it for sure, but I feel sure.
>>> So... you could maybe change your mind if you didn't like what would
>>> ensue. But then you'd better finally provide me everything that's on
>>> that list of things I want and need.
>>>
>>> To be sure, I did enjoy the opening ceremony of that art exhibition
>>> yesterday. Or not. Actually, it was the art I enjoyed. Also, a woman
>>> spilled a big bunch of bubble gum on the floor. Since I've gotten
>>> used to giving coins to beggars... in this new life of mine... and I
>>> also happened to have gum, too... I threw some more on that pile.
>>> That made no sense but was fun.
>>>
>>> Yea. But if you want me to do those other things, well... I don't
>>> like to practice. If it's just some manual skill I'm practicing I'm
>>> able to do it anyway. It leads into me behaving like a brat, yelling
>>> and cursing because of tiny setbacks, but I'll learn the skill. But
>>> sexuality and killing should be pretty real. I don't know how to
>>> practice that. I mean, it wouldn't be personal if it's just
>>> practice, right? But how could that not be personal? Maybe I should
>>> catch them but let them go if I don't feel the right way.
>>>
>>> I was complaining about being unable to grope women. I'm no longer
>>> unable to do that. But I had to do it a few times to actually begin
>>> to enjoy it... to actually feel happy immediately after doing it.
>>> And they wanted me to do that. I could tell. They were asking for
>>> it. But I was careful not to overstep my boundaries... not to do
>>> more than they were asking for. But indeed I do nowadays feel able
>>> to fulfill the wishes of others on an interpersonal level. That's
>>> because although I haven't realized my career potential, I have
>>> already indicated it. So I *can* do something else, too. That didn't
>>> use to be possible and I didn't even use to know whether it ever
>>> would be. I merely trusted that it would. Sometimes we all have to
>>> guess.
>>>
>>> I don't feel so good now, but I know people who want to die and seem
>>> to live out of some kind of a perceived obligation. They might have
>>> no motive to report anything to the police or even ask other people
>>> to rescue them as long as they don't feel I'm bullshitting them. You
>>> know, that I'm not just acting like some psychopath in order to get
>>> laid. Not wanting to live doesn't mean not having dignity. And they
>>> don't need to be killed, either, but if they don't want to live then
>>> I guess they'd like to make use of such an unusual personality
>>> trait. Why wouldn't they, since even I was attracted to working
>>> myself to death and would've actually done that had people let me?
>>> But of course, after I was already so damaged I couldn't work, I did
>>> begin to seek for a way to heal the damage... because death was
>>> supposed to be just a possible but accidental byproduct of work.
>>> Being attracted to working myself to death didn't mean I'd
>>> prioritize death over work. I wouldn't have needed to work at all
>>> had I done that.
>>>
>>> But I'd still like to remind you that legislators and law
>>> enforcement professionals can form a whole that is completely
>>> idiotic and forces people to behave as if they're total jackasses.
>>> See this:
>>> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-fbi-cant-find-hackers-that-dont-smoke-pot
>>>
>>> First they criminalize pot and then they can't hire hackers, because
>>> almost all good hackers smoke pot!
>>>
>>> I know Hitler and de Sade wrote books in prison, but how could a
>>> person use cannabis on a daily basis in a Finnish prison? That
>>> doesn't sound possible. So, I don't want to go to prison. Besides,
>>> it's not just the pot. Paul Erdős needed amphetamine to create
>>> mathematics, and microdosing on acid is just great for solving
>>> complicated problems - even so great that it might eliminate the
>>> need for other drugs although I'm not sure of that. Acid is also
>>> extremely safe for the body if compared to cannabis or amphetamines.
>>>
>>> But if I went to prison, local laws wouldn't require the prison
>>> staff to provide me LSD and women who are ready for sex. They
>>> wouldn't be required to let me sleep when that's healthy for me to
>>> sleep given my 26-hour-long circadian rhythm. I couldn't even meet
>>> friends when I want to. Instead, the guards would be forced to treat
>>> me as if they're imbeciles! I'd suffer of their behavior.
>>>
>>> I'd want to kill the guards for wasting my time but that would be
>>> virtually impossible! And some guard might make it even worse by
>>> suggesting that since I'm in prison, at least I have time to
>>> program. I'd do what I can to obligate every prison guard not to
>>> suggest that to me. That would be so annoying I couldn't think about
>>> much else before taking spectacular, sadistic revenge. And I don't
>>> know whether I'd be able to do that in any worthwhile manner. For
>>> example, I wouldn't consider it worthwhile to commit suicide. I even
>>> wouldn't consider it worthwhile to provoke someone to rape me and
>>> then make a major fuss of it. That would shame the Finnish penal
>>> system because this American habit is quite unheard of around here.
>>> But why the fuck would we want that?
>>>
>>> If I went to prison I don't know how I could retaliate enough for
>>> that wasted time, unless some people actually managed to provide me
>>> the things on that list to prison even though that'd appear to
>>> involve breaking the law. If they could do that anyway, I mightn't
>>> need to retaliate, but I can't just take something like that for
>>> granted. Wouldn't it just overtax the prison staff to attempt to
>>> understand why letting that happen, or even assisting in it, would
>>> be the right thing? Wouldn't they rather do the wrong thing because
>>> someone they fear forces them to, or because they're too dense?
>>>
>>> Maybe, if I had to go to prison, I could make a few friends there.
>>> Then we could identify a prisoner who seems tough but is in fact a
>>> total loser, and tell everyone he raped me. Including global media.
>>> That would affect the reputation of the Finnish penal system so
>>> badly it'd be as if I had raped the penal system. By this I mean
>>> that it would probably cause rapes in Finnish prisons because the
>>> inmates would think that's already usual.
>>>
>>> For some reason, if you do evil to men they tend to pass that on.
>>> Men, who treat others badly, have probably been treated badly
>>> themselves. Women do not pass such things on as often. Hence, it
>>> would make sense to say that "I raped the Finnish penal system" if I
>>> caused rapes to become prevalent in Finnish prisons. It would make
>>> sense because everyone affected by the Finnish penal system would
>>> suffer of the way in which I hurt the Finnish penal system. I don't
>>> believe in revenge - quite the opposite. It's just that placing me
>>> in prison would, in all likelihood, prevent me from programming
>>> efficiently *and* obstruct my personal development, which would
>>> hardly leave me room to react in some other manner. What else
>>> *should* I do in that situation?
>>>
>>> I mean, if knowledge about my needs wouldn't motivate the prison
>>> staff to do the right thing, and if knowledge about drugs would be
>>> rejected by voters and legislators due to social habits and
>>> prejudice, and if the media just doesn't do anything even though the
>>> sheep would believe them just like that - what else would there left
>>> that threat, deception and coercion, IF push came to shove?
>>>
>>> I know that now, since I've told about this, if I really did go to
>>> prison and got raped there, some might think I'm just kidding. But I
>>> don't intend to end up in prison and, should I go there anyway and
>>> then tell you something like this happened, it would've really
>>> happened. But in any case, I do also believe that although having
>>> actually been raped in prison would be very damaging for me, having
>>> the reputation of having been raped in prison might not be quite
>>> damaging for me especially if I'm the one outing myself as
>>> retaliation towards the penal system for failing to meet my moderate
>>> needs due to a petty obsession of doing evil because that is
>>> required by law.
>>>
>>> They should rather give me what I need for programming, but because
>>> they'd probably be too inept and/or cowardly to do that, I shouldn't
>>> end up in prison in the first place. To be fair, it is not only
>>> their fault. That would be difficult to arrange. The society is at
>>> fault, not any single staff member I'd meet and end up considering
>>> inept and/or cowardly because they'd have to be the ones who'd
>>> actually carry out the obligatory process of failure.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tuk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 24.11.2015, 21:26, John Carl kirjoitti:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> For a long time, I've believed that good ideas can change the world
>>>> and I've had a few ideas, but I never write them down and publish
>>>> them. I've finally started to do that. My first step has been to
>>>> start a new political party, dedicated to the creation and
>>>> promulgation of the best ideas. The goal of this political party is
>>>> not to become powerful in itself, but to offer up ideas to all the
>>>> other political parties in the hopes that they can take these good
>>>> ideas and implement them to one degree or another. As such, I don't
>>>> care if I profit off these ideas, I don't care if anybody else steals
>>>> them and calls them their own. I don't care if anybody else takes the
>>>> "credit" for my ideas. "My" ideas aren't really mine in the first
>>>> place. They arise in the context of my influences and my environment
>>>> so why should "I" get possessive of them? I've posted my first idea,
>>>> in as short of a form as possible, and would invite your commentary,
>>>> contributions or corrections with the caveat that I reserve the right
>>>> to steal any good
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>>>> americanqualityparty.us.
>>>>
>>>> Yours forever,
>>>>
>>>> John
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