Share capital Brought by Cash - INC 20A Decaration Format Needed

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CA NAGARAJ S V

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Nov 12, 2019, 8:18:52 AM11/12/19
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hi sir,

what is the procedure the file the INC 20A in case of the share capital is broiught by cash by the subscribers.

is there any declaration format for the same . how to proceed in this case

Kindlly resolve Thanks in advace

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reena roy

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Nov 12, 2019, 9:34:54 AM11/12/19
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kindly send declaration format



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reena roy

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Nov 12, 2019, 10:20:04 AM11/12/19
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Declaration format,I hope it help you
Declaration.docx

Pcs_sandip Lathiya

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Nov 13, 2019, 12:09:30 AM11/13/19
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attach Cash Receipt instead of Bank Statement in your case.
Rest all are ok except provision of Income tax Act 1961.



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Nov 13, 2019, 1:22:40 AM11/13/19
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Form itself is declaration, no need separate declaration attachments.

Siddharth Pemawat

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Nov 14, 2019, 2:15:45 AM11/14/19
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Sir Do Share Capital money can be received in Cash ?

Is It not a violation of Companies Act,2013 provision and Income Tax Act ?



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Ashraf Company Secretary Hubli

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Nov 14, 2019, 2:18:34 AM11/14/19
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As per the Companies Act, 2013, any Share capital money should be received any of the Bank mode, not by cash.

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Pcs_sandip Lathiya

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Nov 14, 2019, 3:36:43 AM11/14/19
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As per Company Act, its not mandatory to receive Subscripation Amount in Bank.

Yes, Its violation of Income Tax Act, But its possible only in the case of Such amount is more than Rs.10,000.

Further As per section 35(AD) & / Or 40A(3) says, that any assesee can not pay amount more than Rs.10,000 in the case of revenue transaction.

Furthermore such limit is only for Taxpayer who paid amount in Cash. This limit is not applied to the assesee who received payment in cash.

So Final Conclusion is , If Subscriber paid money (Only if Such amount is more than Rs.10,000),  Then they violate section 40A(3),

but Newly Incorporated company not violate Either Section 35(AD) & / OR  40A(3).



Prathap

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Nov 14, 2019, 11:07:16 AM11/14/19
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IN this case, Can a pre incorporation exps and any amount paid as Advance towards Office premises can be claimed ? If so to what extent?

V Kartik

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Nov 14, 2019, 11:28:24 AM11/14/19
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Pre-incorporation expenses can definitely be paid/reimbursed after the company is incorporated. Infact about the same, we generally record it in the Minutes of the 1st Board meeting as well. So the promoters need to keep an account of the total expenses incurred by them & reimburse the same post incorporation.

Secondly, this has nothing to do with the above declaration. This declaration only proves whether the subscribers to the Memorandum, have actually subscribed for the shares or not by seeing the account details. Most importantly, the subscription amount should come from seperate accounts (of each subscribers) so that it clarifies the situation. This is what indirectly clarified (as declaration) in the help kit as well.

Kartik

Prathap

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Nov 15, 2019, 12:49:48 AM11/15/19
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in continuation to your clarification, If one of the subscribers pays all the amount as mentioned in the Paid up cap, can this be considered or only the respective subscriber should pay the respective amount.

V Kartik

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Nov 15, 2019, 1:15:11 AM11/15/19
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Every subscriber to the Memorandum should deposit the amount from his account. That's the purpose of filing this form. If you read the instruction kit, it's clearly given that "every subscriber to the Memorandum should pay for the shares he /she has subscribed for" (framed in my words based on the understanding). 

Secondly, if you show only one amount being deposited as a whole, it indicates as if only one subscriber has contributed. 

Hence we generally advise our clients accordingly as per my above clarification.

Kartik

Ashraf Company Secretary Hubli

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Nov 15, 2019, 1:27:40 AM11/15/19
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Should pay respective subscribers. as per undertaking in MOA.

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Ashraf Company Secretary Hubli

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Nov 15, 2019, 1:30:51 AM11/15/19
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In first board meeting by passing resolution can claim exact expenses  incurred for company registration, Where as for advances towards can be claim after executing Novation Lease Agreements.

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Prathap

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Nov 15, 2019, 6:10:53 AM11/15/19
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Thanks Karthik for Clarification. Other views are all appreciated. Thank you.

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