Query regarding outstanding amount in onetime return in DPT-3

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bandana saha

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May 6, 2019, 2:02:24 AM5/6/19
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Dear Members,

Please confirm whether the outstanding receipt of money or loan by a company but not considered as deposits, in terms of clause (c) of sub-rule 1 of rule 2 asked to be reported in onetime return in DPT-3 means the outstanding amount as on 31.03.2019 of money or loan received by the Company during the period 01.04.2014 to 31.03.2019?
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Komal Dalmia

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May 6, 2019, 2:14:15 AM5/6/19
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Dear Member ,

Loan received by the Company during the period 01.04.2014 to 31.03.2019 but is outstanding as on 31.03.2019. 

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Piyush Jain

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May 6, 2019, 2:33:03 AM5/6/19
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What if a loan is taken prior to 01.04.2014 and the amount is still outstanding as on 31.03.2019?

Shweta Gupta

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May 6, 2019, 2:38:39 AM5/6/19
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and what if loan taken after 01.04.2014 and outstanding exists as on 31.03.2019

Komal Dalmia

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May 6, 2019, 2:46:52 AM5/6/19
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The act specifically mentions the outstanding amount from 01.04.2014 to be taken.  According to me the amount prior to 01.04.2014  shouldn't be considered. However MCA should issue proper clarification on the same issue. 

CS Harshal Gandhi

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May 6, 2019, 7:12:53 AM5/6/19
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Dear Piyush,

As per my opinion, if the amount is taken prior to 01.04.2014 and still o/s as on 31.03.2019 then you have to subtract the amount existing as on 31.03.2019 from amount as on 01.04.2014

For Example. if the amount is o/s as on 01.04.2014 is 3 lacs Rs. and same is o/s as on 31.03.2019 is Rs. 5 lacs, then you have mentioned only 2 lacs during ( 01.04.2014 to 31.03.2019) (i.e. 5 lacs - 3 lacs).

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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:03:03 PM UTC+5:30, Piyush Jain wrote:
What if a loan is taken prior to 01.04.2014 and the amount is still outstanding as on 31.03.2019?

On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 11:44, Komal Dalmia <dalmia...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Member ,

Loan received by the Company during the period 01.04.2014 to 31.03.2019 but is outstanding as on 31.03.2019. 

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:32 AM bandana saha <bandan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Members,

Please confirm whether the outstanding receipt of money or loan by a company but not considered as deposits, in terms of clause (c) of sub-rule 1 of rule 2 asked to be reported in onetime return in DPT-3 means the outstanding amount as on 31.03.2019 of money or loan received by the Company during the period 01.04.2014 to 31.03.2019?
    Bandana Saha
   Associate Company Secretary
   Mobile No.-8348611756

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Piyush Jain

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May 6, 2019, 7:48:59 AM5/6/19
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Thanks Mr. Harshal, I guess that's how it should be done.

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Piyush Jain

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May 6, 2019, 9:19:56 AM5/6/19
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Will the amount of Sundry Creditors/Trade Payables be included either in one time return or periodic return?

CS Harshal Gandhi

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May 7, 2019, 1:29:51 AM5/7/19
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I think no in both the cases.

In Annual Return, Particulars of transactions by a company not considered as deposit as per rule 2 (1) (c) of the Companies
(Acceptance of Deposit) Rules, 2014, Only Point No. 15 is to be considered 

And in One time return : Total amounts of outstanding money or loan received by a company but not considered as deposits in terms of rule 2(1)(c) of the Companies (Acceptance of Deposits) Rules,2014 as specified in rule 16(A)(3) is to be shown.

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