Shares transfered without consideration

4,681 views
Skip to first unread message

raju three

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 2:20:20 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear sir,

Can shares be transfered to any person without consideration as gift?

Is there any way transfer the shares of a private limited company  to any person without consideration.

Kindly let me know the provisons.

Regards
Raju


Anju Grewal

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 2:29:33 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Hi Raju,

Shares can be gifted by a shareholder even though in the case of Private Companies, but the transfer should not be against the basic conditions to be followed by a private company like: maximum no. of members, etc. and it should not be prohibited by the Articles of the company.



--
Find eNewsletters of ICSI Mysore at: http://www.icsi.edu/NewsEvents/enewsletters/tabid/1757/Default.aspx AND www.esnips.com/web/icsimysore
 
You received this message as you are subscriber. To unsubscribe email to: csmysore-u...@googlegroups.com



--


Anju Grewal

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 2:30:29 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
In addition to that You need to get the gift deed registered as well.
--

Rajesh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 2:33:37 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear Raju,
 
Yes. you can transfer the shares as a gift. But you have to pay the stamp duly on the value of the shares.
 
Regards
Rajesh

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, raju three <raju...@gmail.com> wrote:

--
Find eNewsletters of ICSI Mysore at: http://www.icsi.edu/NewsEvents/enewsletters/tabid/1757/Default.aspx AND www.esnips.com/web/icsimysore
 
You received this message as you are subscriber. To unsubscribe email to: csmysore-u...@googlegroups.com



--
Thanks and Regards,
Rajesh R
Contact : 9886678285

Dipak singh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:02:24 AM4/6/11
to CSMysore
Dear Anju/Raju,

I am agree with your explanation, But my Question is What would be
Stamp value to be affixed on Share Transfer Deed at the same time
there is no Consideration by way of gift...??? Stamp Value should be
calculated on

a) Transferor Book Value.
b) Break up Value of Company Share at the time of Transfer.
c) Nominal Value of Share


Correct me if I am Wrong

Regards,

Dipak Singh

raju three

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:04:43 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear all,

Thank u very much for valuable comments.

Regards
Raju

Rajesh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:20:17 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear Deepak,
 
In my view the stamp duty should be calculated on the value of the share at the time of transfer.
 
Regards
Rajesh

raju three

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:31:01 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com

I think it should be calculated on face value.

Regards
Raju

Anju Grewal

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:42:45 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Hi all,

Sorry I have never dealt with such situation before... so plz keep this discussion goin and help me to knw the correct answer for this.

Rajesh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 4:51:39 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear Deepak,
 
I have come across a situation where one member of the company transferred shares as a gift to his relative. But the shares are transferred without consideration. Stamp duty paid on the face value since the market value and the face value were same.
 
Thanks and Regards
Rajesh

gaurav rathore

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 5:05:57 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear Deepak,
 
Stamp Duty will be calculated on the highest value.
Correct me if I am wrong.
--
Thanks & Regards,

Gaurav G S Rathore
Mo-9807135830


Dipak singh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 5:13:13 AM4/6/11
to CSMysore
Dear Rajesh,

Now i Discuss a situation where transferor were Purchased shares of
PVT company at Rs 100 per share ( Rs 90 premium) now

a) Transferor Book Value is RS 100
b) Book Value of Company Shares is approx 79 at the time of transfer.
c) face value Rs .10

Now Suggest what would be the Consideration to calculate STAMP
duty....???? he gifted 50000 shares of that Company.

Regards,
Dipak Singh

gaurav rathore

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 5:34:15 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Soory for the earlier reply.
 
According to me
 
The correct answer to in respect to the value of shares on which stamp duty :-
 
For Listed Companies- Market value prevailing on the date
 
In other cases- Face value of shares or Last transaction Amount i.e. consideration mentioned in the last transfer ( Whichever is higher)
 
Please, Correct me if i am wrong.

Dipak singh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 5:47:52 AM4/6/11
to CSMysore
Dear Gaurav,

Can you support your answer with any Act,section, circular, or
notification.

Regards,
Dipak Singh

gaurav rathore

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 6:12:35 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Dear Deepak,
 
For the first one in case listed Companies answer is correct.( u can refer the websites of listed companies and check the FAQ related to investor)  http://www.hul.co.in/investorrelations/FAQsForms/

For the second i can't find out any case or act or circular.
 
I have given the answer on the basis of a similar discussion going in Lawyers Club India.
 
 
Sorry for any confusion caused by me.

Dipak singh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 6:16:37 AM4/6/11
to CSMysore
Dear Gaurav,

I am aware of 1st answer but i wanted to know for second one.

Regards,
Dipak Singh

Rajesh

unread,
Apr 6, 2011, 6:29:55 AM4/6/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
Der Deepak,
 
This is the case on purchase of shares. The value of shares for stamping should be Rs.100/- including preminum. Here consideration is fixed.
 
Where as in the case of gift there is no question of consideration.  I hope it should be on the face value of shares. 
 
I request Members to throw light on this issue.
 
Regards
Rajesh 
 


 
--
Find eNewsletters of ICSI Mysore at: http://www.icsi.edu/NewsEvents/enewsletters/tabid/1757/Default.aspx  AND www.esnips.com/web/icsimysore

You received this message as you are subscriber. To unsubscribe email to: csmysore-u...@googlegroups.com

SrikanthReddyKolli CS

unread,
Apr 7, 2011, 2:59:32 AM4/7/11
to csmy...@googlegroups.com
HAI,

Section 56(2) by the Finance (No.2) Act, 2009 says when the donor gifts shares for nil consideration the value shall be arrived to tax it in the hands of donee if they are not close relaives.

to arrive such value it has given the formula which is as followes: (Assets-Liabilities)* paidup value of such equity shares/paidup equity share capital as shown in the balance sheet.

according to this the value wil be higher and attracts high stamp duty

so go for book value for liberal compliance as in time of inspection if they question then you can pay the remaining

the same way i did

contrary views solicited
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages