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BIJAL SALOT

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Sep 16, 2014, 7:33:25 AM9/16/14
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Dear All,

If Company has not filed form 23B for appointment of auditor for the year 2011-12 & 2012-13 & if Company wants to file the same today than can it file form 23B or it has to file Form ADT - 1.

While, Form 23B is available on the MCA site, but at the time of uploading the same it is showing error that please upload latest version of the form.

what should be done in such a case.

Thanks & Regards,
Bijal

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 16, 2014, 7:39:42 AM9/16/14
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23b is to be used only for PY appointments.. download fresh form from site and try again..

 
 
Regards,


Simranjeet Singh
Associate Company Secretary

"To know, is to know that you know nothing. that is the meaning of true knowledge."
 

   


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BIJAL SALOT

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Sep 16, 2014, 7:45:48 AM9/16/14
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Thanks Simranjeet.
I had downloaded fresh form & tried again but it is showing the same error.
Best Regards,
Bijal
 

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 16, 2014, 7:47:55 AM9/16/14
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there might be some problem with the e-form.. i m facing problems for form dir-11 and dir-12.. u can call mca helpline also for clarifications..

Ramaswami Mohan

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Sep 16, 2014, 8:25:47 AM9/16/14
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i filed DIR-12 and it got accepted, but thereafter , i filed DIR-11 it is giving me error message "designation incorrect".

so now how do i remedy this ?

regards,
Mohan
CS. R.  Mohan
Mobile: 9908814677

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 16, 2014, 8:27:14 AM9/16/14
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i m trying to file dir-11 first and hav not filed dir-12 but it is giving same error..

Ramaswami Mohan

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Sep 17, 2014, 12:52:14 AM9/17/14
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Today morning i was able to file DIR-11 after having filed DIR-12 yesterday!

regards,

Mohan

Ritu Sharma

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Sep 17, 2014, 4:08:24 AM9/17/14
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DIr-11 is to filled after filing DIR-12

Ramaswami Mohan

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Sep 17, 2014, 4:37:38 AM9/17/14
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Still not clear what

i
s the
sequence for filing DIR-11 & 12.

Where is it stated that DIR-12 is to be filed first ? and then to file DIR-11. Can u pl clarify,

regards,

R. Mohan

M. No. +919908814677

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 17, 2014, 4:45:22 AM9/17/14
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dir-11 to be filed first logically... if we file dir-12 first then it may give the impression that company is trying to vacate the office of a director in  a wrongful manner.. i believe thats why form dir-11 is introdeuced so that director concerned will first inform to registrar abt his resignation which will get registered in records of roc and then dir 12 filing by co to confirm that resignation.. i have personally handled complaint cases during 15 days roc training where i have seen form 32 instances where directors have complained abt wrongfull cessation.


Ramaswami Mohan

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Sep 17, 2014, 4:50:35 AM9/17/14
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yes, ur right. 

what happens if DIR-11 is filed and the co does not file DIR -12 ? 

wish there was a check mechanism in the e-form DIR-12 to prompt if DIR-11 has been filed or not.

though there are many disputes revolving this Directors subject, for those where there is no dispute, are subjected to additional costs.

views of others welcome.

regards,

Mohan


CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 17, 2014, 4:56:27 AM9/17/14
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what happens if DIR-11 is filed and the co does not file DIR -12 ?

ICSI in its recently introduced faq's has given its view on the matter



A director resigns by giving notice in writing to the
company. He forwards a copy of resignation in Form
DIR-11 to ROC within time. What would be the status
of director if the company fails to intimate about the
resignation to the Registrar?

As per Section 168 read with Rule 15 and Rule 16 of Companies
(Appointment and Qualification of Directors) Rules, 2014, a
director may resign from his office by giving a notice in writing
to the company and shall also forward a copy of his resignation
along with detailed reasons for the resignation in Form DIR-11
to the Registrar within thirty days of resignation.

Further, the company shall intimate to the Registrar about such
resignation in Form DIR-12 with in thirty days of receipt of
notice of resignation from a director.

As per sub-section (2) of section 168, the resignation of a director
shall take effect from the date on which the notice is received
by the company. In case of failure of the company to intimate
the Registrar, as the director has already informed the Registrar
of his resignation within time , the document would get
registered in the records of the Registrar.

In terms of section 172, the company and every officer of the
company who is in default shall be punishable with fine which
shall not be less than fifty thousand rupees but which may
extend to five lakh rupees.




Ramaswami Mohan

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Sep 17, 2014, 5:02:53 AM9/17/14
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thanks for this clarification CS Simranjeet Singh,

regards,

Mohan

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 17, 2014, 5:05:19 AM9/17/14
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yours welcome Sir..

mann vishwakarma

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Sep 17, 2014, 8:19:21 AM9/17/14
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What is the consequence of non filing of DIR-11 by Directors???

CS Simranjeet Singh

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Sep 17, 2014, 8:24:17 AM9/17/14
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he continues to be the director of that company in the records of ROC.....even he may actually have resigned from that company..
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