AOC -4-filing

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deepali balpande

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:11:31 AM10/23/15
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Dear Sir/Madam,

I have filed AOC 4 Form . The Form is pre scrutinized successfully but at the time of uploading the Form it shows error that please fill required fields.

Why this type of error is occurring and if anybody has solution, please share with  me .

Thanks & Regards,
Deepali 
 

Taruna Sharma

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:34:20 AM10/23/15
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I had the same error. It must be because of the details of RPTs. KIndly fill the details of Related parties transactions in the form.

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deepali balpande

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:49:39 AM10/23/15
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Mam,
We have not entered into any transactions with related party  during the F.Y.2014-2015 as per Sec 188 of the CA Act 2013. Further the at the time pf pre scrutiny, this error was not highlighted . The Form is successfully pre scrutinized. The Form is not accepting 0 in the related party transactions field.


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Deepali 

CA Sumit Parolia

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:50:36 AM10/23/15
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can u share ur form?


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ACA SUMIT PAROLIA
S PAROLIA & ASSOCIATES
Practicing Chartered Accountants
Kolkata

deepali balpande

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:56:26 AM10/23/15
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Sir,
Here is the Form

Regards,
Deepali
Form_AOC-4 BERAR 2015.pdf

Taruna Sharma

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Oct 23, 2015, 4:59:20 AM10/23/15
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Leave it blank. Don't enter 0

Preeti Jain

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Oct 23, 2015, 5:01:46 AM10/23/15
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Leave the column blank if no related arty transaction. It will not take 0 .

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Preeti Jain, B.Com, ACS
Jain Preeti & Co.,Company Secretaries
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deepali balpande

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Oct 23, 2015, 5:11:10 AM10/23/15
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As you can see the Form ,I have not entered 0 in the Form .

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Deepali

Taruna Sharma

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Oct 23, 2015, 5:34:14 AM10/23/15
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details of short term borrowings, unsecured, 0 is not entered in last column. 
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Oct 23, 2015, 12:16:39 PM10/23/15
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In the column asking whether provisional FS have been file change the bubble to no from not applicable then the problem will be resolved
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deepali balpande

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Oct 26, 2015, 12:48:15 AM10/26/15
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Good Morning Sir,

Kindly share the notification. As you said if i attach documents with sd/- which I had done in earlier filings, then consequences arises .

Accordingly to you documents with Sd/- leads to pimresonmnet and penaulty.

I really don't understand .

Kindly explain.

Thanks & Regards,
Deepali


On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Nitin Dwivedi <cs.niti...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Deepali,

This is to inform you that documents with sd/- are strictly prohibited for filing with ROC.

I have seen your AOC-4 form and you have attached documents with sd/- mark. Please get it manually signed by directors and auditors and then file the same.

Pls. ask your professional for the same.

I will also share the notification shortly. As per this notification, if you file documents with sd/- mark then you have to bear the consequences like imprisonment, penalty etc.

Regards,

NITIN DWIVEDI

AM- Legal & Secretarial

ALP Group of Companies

Plot No.32, Sector-18 (Huda)

Gurgaon

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Ramaswami Mohan

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Oct 26, 2015, 1:01:07 AM10/26/15
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Can it be digitally signed ? or only physically signing is permitted. 

pl share ur views ,

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Mohan
CS. R.  Mohan
Mobile: 9908814677


Adarsh Pandey

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Oct 26, 2015, 4:24:21 AM10/26/15
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Please refer rule 8 (6) of Companies (registration office and fees) Rules 2014 which says - 

"Scanned image of documents shall be of original signed documents relevant to the e-forms or forms and the scanned document image shall not be left blank without bearing the actual signature of authorised person." 

Accordingly, it can be inferred that SD/- is not allowed any more. Documents shall bear the original Signature.

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Adarsh Pandey
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deepali balpande

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:05:17 AM10/26/15
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Sir,
The Annual Report which i have attached to the AOC 4 is not scanned image of the Documents but it is soft copy which is converted into PDF.
My Annual report is hardly of 50 to 55 pages .As you said original signed documents should be attached to the Form. Is it possible in Big companies like Tata , reliance,Bajaj where their Annual report  is of 200 pages .

Kindly any body share what these companies do and how they attach Annual Report to the AOC 4 

Thanks & Regards,

Deepali

Jayashree Chandrasekaran

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:06:40 AM10/26/15
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they will attach the printed documents.....the size will get reduced when printed


Jayashree
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PROPRIETOR
S.GANESH&ASSOCIATES
CHENNAI
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deepali balpande

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:20:30 AM10/26/15
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Madam,
If I remove Sd/- from my soft copy on basis of which printing of the Annual Report is get done and attach to the Form PDF version of  it, is it ok or am I require to scan the printed annual report.

Kindly explain.

Thanks & Regards,
deepali   

Adarsh Pandey

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:24:43 AM10/26/15
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There is a facility available in Adobe Acrobat to optmize/reduce the pdf file size, if size of scanned document is your concern.

and As per Companies Act, Financials are supposed to be signed by directors in a Board meeting prior to presenting it for approval before shareholders in AGM.... so technically Documents should be physically signed by directors and then scanned for filing with MCA.


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Adarsh







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Jayashree Chandrasekaran

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:29:17 AM10/26/15
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for Listed companies,printed versions are acceptable....do you have a printed copy....if it is a soft copy then you must get the physical signatures


Jayashree

deepali balpande

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Oct 26, 2015, 5:48:22 AM10/26/15
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Thanks you sir and madam for responding to my queries.

Regards,
Deepali
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