Assignment 0 : Problem 3

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Aaron Albers

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Sep 6, 2010, 6:57:32 PM9/6/10
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Prove that 3 + 5(2)^.5 is not the square of a real number of the form a + b(2)^.5, where a and b are integers.

Aaron Albers

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Sep 6, 2010, 7:21:49 PM9/6/10
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I am not sure I understand the question.... anyone else know what is being asked?

Anne S

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Sep 6, 2010, 7:30:31 PM9/6/10
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if 3+(5^.3) is x^2, is x a real number?


On Sep 6, 5:21 pm, Aaron Albers <aaroncalb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure I understand the question.... anyone else know what is being
> asked?
>

Aaron Albers

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Sep 6, 2010, 7:37:26 PM9/6/10
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In this case what does "real" mean. Is it the real domain rather than imaginary or is it whole numbers? If you solve that equation for x, x is in the real domain but it is not a whole number.

Anne S

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Sep 6, 2010, 7:41:47 PM9/6/10
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Reviewing the inside cover and page 7 -- I think "Real" means "not
complex". Since the given form has two term I think you have to FOIL
the term to square it.


On Sep 6, 5:37 pm, Aaron Albers <aaroncalb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In this case what does "real" mean. Is it the real domain rather than
> imaginary or is it whole numbers? If you solve that equation for x, x is in
> the real domain but it is not a whole number.
>

Aaron Albers

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Sep 6, 2010, 8:08:24 PM9/6/10
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3 + 5(2)^.5 = (a + b(2)^.5)^2 = (a + b(2)^.5)(a + b(2)^.5) = a^2 + 2ab(2)^.5 + 2b^2 = (a^2 + 2b^2) + 2ab(2)^.5

3 + 5(2)^.5 = (a^2 + 2b^2) + 2ab(2)^.5

Therefore
a^2 + 2b^2 = 3 -> a = (3 - 2b^2)^.5
2ab = 5 -> ab = 2.5 -> b(3 - 2b^2)^.5 = 2.5 -> b^2(3 - 2b^2) = 6.25 -> 3b^2 - 2b^4 - 6.25 = 0 (This equation does not have any real roots)
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