Kudos to the independent, libertarian, republican, and democrat
opposition to Obama's health care plans. The public is sharpening the
pitchforks and lighting new torches for the battle ahead. The Obama
administration has called this opposition an "angry mob", "brown
shirts", "swastika carrying", "astroturf", and insincere "manufactured
anger". If there are any organized thugs in this debate, it is the White
House, ACORN, and SEIU being the major purveyors of threats, violence,
and intimidation.
Obama has declared opposition to those that "created the problem" (eg.
economy). We all know that the economic crisis is a direct result of
Clinton Administration and Democrats in Congress softening sub-prime
lending restrictions on low-income and minority home ownership. Obama
still thinks he can "Bush Bash" his way out of responsibility for the
economy. The Obama administration is in full "bunker mentality"
retaliating with threats to senators wanting stimulus dollars for their
states, threats of an "enemies list" to control those who disagree,
arm-twisting and wood-shedding of BlueDog Democrats to comply, and
threatening to "hit back twice as hard" any townhall/internet
opposition that disagrees with the Obamabots. America has free speech
and that includes speaking out opposition to the incoherent bills of an
ideological, ill conceived, incompetently manned, Chicago thug
politics administration. Obviously, Obama, Rahm Emanuel, and David
Axlerod incorrectly thought they could play a second-city corruption
script on a national stage. Lets see what the opposition is angry about
by listing the lies of the Obama Administration.
Lie 1:
"If you're happy with your insurance and doctor you can keep them"
Sounds great. But this is a complete lie. If a public option is offered,
by definition it is payed for by tax revenue and not direct billing to
the client. What this means is that any employer currently subsidizing
health care benefits for employees will be able to say "Employees
should use the "free" public option provided by the government instead
of having to be subsidized by the employer". Instantly, any plan that
you currently have through your employer will disappear. So it doesn't
matter if you like your current insurance or not. It is no longer
offered by the employer which means that private insurance company will
gradually loose a majority of it's clients and go out of business. The
public option removes any chance of a level playing field for "profit"
required providers.
Lie 2:
"We are not trying to create a single payer system (ie. government takeover of health care)"
Intentional misinformation and misdirection by the Obama administration.
The whole point of a public option is to start the migration from
private insurance to government-run health care. Once a public option is
available, government undercuts any private insurance rates because
public option does not have that pesky capitalist need to make a profit.
Private insurance firms cannot compete with so-called "free" public
option and most will go out of business. President has openly stated his
goal is a "single-payer system"(2002). For current political reasons
he now denies it. But his goal is to start dismantling the private
insurance industry. That dismantling begins with a public option and
then as Barney Franks puts it, "that will eventually lead to the desired
single payer system" as citizens slowly move from private to public
insurance. Remember, private insurance cannot compete with a public
option provided by the government.
Lie 3:
"This will not affect those that already have insurance (ie. private insurance, medicare)"
Another lie. All insurance will be affected whether you want to or not.
Everybody is affected by the creation of a public option. Part of the
current health care plans being considered includes a $500 billion
dollar cut in medicare funds that will be reallocated to support the new
health care plan. Does anyone think that stealing $500 billion from
medicare will not affect quality/quantity of the medicare provided
health care ? Medicare needs every dollar it has and more to properly
serve the growing population of retiring baby-boomers.
Lie 4:
"We will not be rationing health care"
Once again, complete misinformation and misdirection. Included in all
health care plans is a section which defines a committee of
doctors/political appointees who will determine the quality and quantity
of all medical services offered. The primary goal of this committee is
to reduce inefficiencies and "unneeded" costly procedures, not to
provide superior quality medical care. Their decision making process
will decide what will be provided/approved. The process will take into
account patient's age, health condition, lifestyle, probablity of
improvement, and whether the procedure "makes sense" for this patient. A
simple example is a sickly unable to walk 82 year old man who needs a
hip replacement. The decision will be made that given his age and
condition, it is not efficient use of resources and cost to provide that
hip replacement. So that man is now bed-ridden for the remainder of
his life. Other things that will be taken into account is lifestyle. If
I am an elderly alcoholic who requires a liver transplant ? Sorry
you've already ruined one liver, you won't be allowed to ruin a second
one. One aspect of these committee's is that it will be required every
five years for elderly patients to attend a medical
practices/euthanasia review. The sole purpose of these reviews is to
convince patients that it would be best for everyone if you did not
need any more medical treatment and can start looking at the
appropriate hospice oriented care. Your life just isn't worth the
effort anymore. Also if the government intends to give everyone health
care then there will be an additional 50 million clients for the
current existing system. That equates to added wait times, and
sometimes extremely long wait times for medical service. Every country
which currently has a single payer system has extended wait times of up
to 6 months to see an oncologist or get chemotherapy. With some
cancers you'll be dead before you see the specialist you need. In many
cases, cancer patients leave Canada or UK to get timely treatment in
the US. No one leaves US to get better health care in other countries
(unless seeking treatments deemed experimental in the US).
Statistically US survival rates for virtually every kind of cancer is
10%-40% better then any of the single payer systems. Those survival
rates alone are enough to call the US system the best health care
system in the world (regardless of cost). If it saves my life, I don't
care if it cost a few thousand more dollars.
Lie 5:
"We will not have citizen's tax revenues used for health care for illegal aliens"
A big lie. Included in the 47 million who currently lack health care are
10-12 million illegal aliens. The health care plans being discussed
provide for citizen taxes to be used to support these felons who have
broken the law for their own personal gain. Illegally entering this
country and overstaying a student/work visa are felonies. Working using a
fake or stolen social security number is a felony. Working "under the
table", off the books is a felony. Violating any of the terms of your
work/student visa is a felony. All of these felons place a burden on the
system and the legally working citizens. I apologize if Mexico sucks,
but that does not make American citizens responsible for your
"squatting" in our country. Yes America is a nation of immigrants, but
legal immigrants. Sneaking over the border in darkness is an insult to
all legal immigrants because it cheats the American government from
applying criteria for selecting which immigrants enter our country.
As far as the "compassion" of the American people, just look at any
emergency room in the nation and you will see hundreds of illegal aliens
on a daily basis receiving quality health care for free. No one is
turned away because Americans are compassionate.
A few related points. It is time for "compassionate" Americans who
support "sanctuary cities" to open their homes and properties to illegal
aliens. Put up or shut up. A "sanctuary city" starts with "sanctuary
homes". If you will not allow illegal aliens onto your property, camping
in your back yard and using your utilities, then stop forcing illegal
aliens on others in the community. I expect the vast majority of
so-called "compassionate" sanctuary city Americans have a very firm "not
in my backyard" attitude.
Also, with 10-12 million unknown felons living in our country comes all
the good and the bad inherent in any diverse population. Crimes will be
committed, drunk driving will occur, drug dealing will exist, gangs
will be an issue, kidnappings will increase (eg. Phoenix 2008), welfare
impacts, wages will drop, and producing "anchor" babies to help force
their acceptance will unnaturally skew the electorate in the illegal
aliens favor. All this could be averted with a simple properly manned
wall on the southern US border, yet the Obama administration will not
champion the building of that wall.
Lie 6:
"Health care cost will be lower in the new health care plan"
You would think at least this might be true about a single-payer system.
You would be wrong. Look at any segments of our economy run by the
government. Amtrak, Postal Service, Medicaid, Medicare, Fannie Mae,
Freddie Mac, and Social Security. All these institutions are collapsing
in the next 5-10 years and will be unable to provide the services they
were created for. Millions will be affected by the poor organizational
and fiscal management. Retirement will turn out to be a disaster for
many hard-working fiscally responsible citizens. Departments charged
with the oversight of these government agencies have systematically
failed. Wall street banking, financial, insurance, lending, and
investing categories all have failed do to incompetent government
oversight neglect. Government political appointees are not to be trusted
as overseers. They have failed in every case. Also CBO has estimated
1-2 trillion dollars will be the expected cost of the health care plans
and will force millions of Americans to move from private insurance to
the public option. Those same Americans are guaranteed to see increased
taxes of all types and all sorts to pay for the health care plan. So
costs for all citizens will rise exponentially to support this new
government so-called cost-effective health plan. In addition, everyone
should be aware that the only way to reduce costs in this plan is by
raising taxes or rationing health care or reducing doctors fees.
Currently many doctors will no longer take Medicare patients because the
government is constantly reducing their fees arbitrarily and doctors
have no say in fees charged. Doctor fee reduction will be a constant
battle in any government controlled health plan. Also the government
lawyer lobby prevents any tort reform being implemented to reduce doctor
malpractice exposure.
Lie 7:
"Health care quality will be the same in the new health care plan"
Impossible. Right now a patient can walk into any doctor they want and
request any type of non-experimental treatment. The decision is between
the doctor and the patient, and possibly some verification with the
insurance carrier. Unlimited choice of doctors. Unlimited choice of
treatment. In a single payer system (Canada, UK) there are long waiting
lines (months) for doctors, treatments, and tests. Resources are
exhausted and at a premium. Treatment is determined by "medical
practice" policies at the government appointee level. Some pencil pusher
will tell you that a treatment is not available to you. Currently,
when this happens in Canada/UK, patients get treatment in the US. If
this plan goes through in the US those foreign patients won't have US
medical treatment available anymore.
Lie 8:
"Access to health care will be the same as it is now"
Once again a lie. Health care will never be the same once the public
option has been implemented. Patients do not have more options under
schemes that lead to the single payer system. Insurance industry will
shrink, be less competitive with public option, have less treatment
choices, and less doctor choices. Patients will have long wait (months)
lines for care and treatment option. For an example: In the UK a vast
amount of elderly patients are in constant back pain. They used to
receive pain medication as treatment. Changes were made in the decision
making process such that, to reduce costs, the UK's single payer system
will only provide pain medication if the source of the back pain is
explicitly identified. Anyone with any experience with the human back
knows that there are many back pain suffering patients who will never
have a clear cause identified. Yet now these patients are denied
treatment. Why ? Because UK's decision makers felt there was too much
opportunity to fake back pain (commit fraud) in order to get the
medication. So unless you can explicitly identify back pain cause, you
will be denied treatment even if you have back pain. So the system says
to prevent widespread fraud we will assume all unidentified conditions
are in fact fraud and deny treatment.
Lie 9:
"America will still have the best health care system in the world"
Absolutely not. America will have the same quality of care as all the
single payer countries. Once a single payer system exists in the U.S.,
medical professionals will be harder to access, receive less pay
(underpaid), and many will decide not to become doctors in a fiscal
system where they can't even pay off their student loans. The medical
profession receives the most training, cost the most money, takes the
most time, and rigorously challenges the mind and body of the student.
Why would anyone want to go through all of that if when you get out you
can barely support yourself. Yes currently doctors are well paid. The
deserve to be well paid. They have given the best 15 years of their life
to the training and building of medical skills. These people make life
and death decisions everyday and should be paid accordingly.
Lie 10:
"The goal is to provide for the 47 million who do not currently have health insurance"
This is perhaps the biggest lie of all. Yes some people do not have
health insurance. But that does not mean they don't have health care.
Everyone in America, illegal or legal, has access to health care at the
local hospital emergency room. You can already get treatment at
no/little cost when an emergency requires it.
Lets look at that number of 47 million without health insurance.
Contained in the 47 million are an illegal aliens group, 18-34 age group
which could afford to buy health insurance but chooses not too (spend
money on other things), non-citizens group, and a group of elderly
uninsured who qualify for Medicare but for some reason never sign up.
Also it should be noted that the average time an individual is uninsured
is about 4 months. Numerically the groups break down as:
illegal aliens group: approx. 10-12 million
not citizens group: approx. 9 million
18-34 and afford group: approx 17 million
elderly qualify group:approx. 9-13 million
Current health care plans are looking at drastically destroying the
health care system for about 10 million patients that could need help.
Its better to adjust the qualifications requirements of Medicaid and
Medicare to pick up some of the needy.
Lie 11:
"Public health care funds will not be used for abortions."
This is a very serious issue to many Americans. In fact recent polls
taken in 2008/2009 find that the majority of Americans consider
themselves pro-life. Many believe our taxes and government should not be
used for the grotesque brutal termination of human life. So far
Planned Parenthood is responsible for approx. 50 million abortions
starting from 1973 Roe V Wade decision. Many believe that the Roe v
Wade decision is example of abuse of judicial power. There is no "right
to privacy" in the constitution, only a right to protection against
unreasonable searches and seizures. Judges played semantic games to get
the resolution they wanted...a progressive liberal atheistic worldview
decision that destroys human life for convenience. Tax dollars should
not be used for such a controversial procedure.
Some clarification of how medical treatments are specified in the health
plan. There were attempts to add an explicit section prohibiting
abortion in the health plan. All attempts were voted down by democrats.
The following is an example of how devious and corrupt is the creation
of a health plan.
At one of the townhalls, McCaskill (D) was asked if the health plan
supported abortion. Her response was "there is nothing in the health
plan about abortions". She is exactly correct. The audience was silent
and then the discussion moved to other issues as it seemed the abortion
question has been answered. No it hasn't. The legal content of bills
requiring list of all coverages would be impossible to list everything
possible. Therefore the convention is that the bill needs only to
contain those items explicitly prohibited. In other words, if it is not
explicitly prohibited then it is included in the coverage. So Rep
McCaskill's answer actually said that abortion was included in coverage,
yet she gave the impression the opposite was true. Wonderful how the
minds of politicians obfuscate everything.
Lie 12:
"The new health care plans will eliminate pre-existing
condition restrictions and still provide user with choices of private
insurers or public option (insurance versus welfare)".
This a complete lie. This option sounds good. Who would want to be
turned down for a pre-existing condition? Its probably happened to most
Americans at one time or another. The problem here is that there is a
difference between "health insurance" and "health welfare". Health
insurance provides the means of paying over time to guarantee when major
health issues occur the patient and the family are protected from the
majority of health bills. Similarities of health, house, car, and boat
insurance are that you can't get financial support for a pre-existing
condition. If you could then no one would ever buy any insurance until
they needed it. This means I'll get house insurance after my house burns
down, car insurance after an accident, and boat insurance after it
sinks. Insurance companies would not be in business very long if they
accepted all pre-existing conditions. That's just fiscal reality of the
insurance business and the service of protecting your future through
insurance. Insurance is not health welfare. Health welfare (AHCCCS in
Arizona) is coverage at the time of the incident. That is different from
protecting your future through insurance investment. Health welfare is
similar to the requirements of hospital emergency rooms. Regardless of
the health condition, incident, and patient, service by the hospital
or health welfare state program is guaranteed. The public option in
health care plans will accept pre-existing conditions. This guarantees
millions will sign up for the public option. Overtime, eventually all
users will be on the public option and private insurance will almost
cease to exist. The goal of all the Obama's health plans is a single
payer system over a few years. Public option guarantees pre-existing
conditions will apply. Employers will discontinue subsidizing private
insurance, guaranteeing all covered by private insurance will
eventually move to public option, and provisions in the health care
plan state that if any changes (price, coverage, etc.) occur on private
insurance policy, then the client must join the public option. Over
10-20 years everyone is on public option with nowhere else to go.
Private insurance carriers have disappeared.
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