Zoom Level / Gas Stations disappear too early

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GuG

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Dec 16, 2022, 2:36:15 PM12/16/22
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I'm coming from the Kurviger2 app and today I subscribed to the pro version of Cruiser as a potential successor to Kurviger. After some trial and error, Cruiser seems to be a good solution for me although it lacks the special routing profiles for motorcycling. The advantage: Only little change of habits and a few interesting additional features.

One thing bothers me though and I haven't found a solution:
Gas stations disappear too early. They are not displayed in Freizeitkarte below zoom level 15, in Mapsforge and OpenAndroMaps already not below level 16. In Kurviger they only disappeared below zoom level 10.
How can I change the behavior of the gas station display? As it is, it is not possible to get an overview of the existing gas stations in the wider area and in the direction of travel. For me this is very unconvenient.

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Willy

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Dec 17, 2022, 3:15:59 AM12/17/22
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Cruiser Set Power user menu. 
See  power user.gif
Than add your downloaded kurviger maps into  Cruiser.



Op vrijdag 16 december 2022 om 20:36:15 UTC+1 schreef GuG:
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Emux

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Dec 17, 2022, 3:45:50 AM12/17/22
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Thanks for the support and the question.

Offline maps are usually best used together with their themes.
OpenAndroMaps + Elevate theme and Freizeitkarte + its themes.

The themes are downloaded automatically with their offline maps.

Their creators decide the zoom level where map elements are displayed.
We need to modify the map themes, in order to change the zoom levels.


Or you can enable the advanced menu in "Settings | Application | Menu".
And use the "Open maps" / "Open theme" menu you know from Kurviger.

Then you can download Kurviger maps from their server
and use the attached theme we wrote in Kurviger app.

This process can become easier in the future. Ideas are always welcome!

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Emux

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Dec 17, 2022, 6:08:05 AM12/17/22
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Very nice!

Which theme do you edit, the Kurviger?
You can certainly post it here.

When edit map themes, for help see also the theme documentation.


> I'm wondering if there should be a a "Map Lite" when in Navigation Mode to make the screen less cluttered?

Interesting idea!
I wonder how we could do this, as each theme has different layers.

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Emux

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Dec 17, 2022, 6:15:07 AM12/17/22
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Editing map themes is usually easier on the desktop, you can use the Cruiser desktop app:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cruiser

(enable OpenGL in "Settings | Rendering engine")

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Emux

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Dec 17, 2022, 6:57:59 AM12/17/22
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> I'm using the desktop Cruiser app to reload the XML each time I save it via Notepad++

Hint: Press F5 to reload the edited theme.

Desktop Cruiser is used by many theme creators to test their themes.
e.g. OpenAndroMaps, Freizeitkarte


There is also the Voluntary theme whose appearance is very close to the UK Ordnance Survey maps:
https://www.openandromaps.org/en/oam-forums/topic/voluntary-uk/page/9

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GuG

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Dec 20, 2022, 12:26:57 PM12/20/22
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That works. Exactly what I wanted. Thank you.

Emux

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Dec 20, 2022, 1:01:22 PM12/20/22
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The min zoom level of the map layers depends on 2 things:
- Map files (hard-coded)
- Map themes (can change it)

I cannot control the OpenAndroMaps maps + Elevate theme or the Freizeitkarte maps + themes.

But I can change the min zoom level in the Mapsforge maps for some layers.

So when you combine them with your favorite map theme,
you will have the layers appear on the zoom levels you wish.

Please see the Mapsforge tag-mapping.

It contains the 'zoom-appear' for all the layers in the Mapsforge map files.
e.g. the 'fuel' has zoom-appear=16

Report here which layers and what zoom level you want,
so we can change them for the next created Mapsforge maps.

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GuG

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Dec 20, 2022, 2:36:14 PM12/20/22
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For me Fuel stations with appear=10 would be fine.

Tom

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Dec 21, 2022, 6:24:34 AM12/21/22
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Difficult to say. How can I see at which zoom level I am when I actually zoom in cruiser?

Emux

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Dec 21, 2022, 6:53:32 AM12/21/22
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> How can I see at which zoom level I am when I actually zoom in cruiser?

Android Cruiser:
- The zoom level appears together with the zoom buttons
- Or in scale bar when select "Settings | Map | Map scale | Advanced"

Desktop Cruiser:
- At status bar (bottom right)

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Tom

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Dec 21, 2022, 7:03:36 AM12/21/22
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Thank you. 12 would be sufficient for me, but if someone prefers is at 10, also fine.

By the way: any idea why I can't answer on the phone even if logged in with the same user there? I always have to switch on the pc for answering.

Emux

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Dec 21, 2022, 7:09:53 AM12/21/22
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> By the way: any idea why I can't answer on the phone even if logged in with the same user there? I always have to switch on the pc for answering.

Normally the same Google account should work everywhere.
Maybe the forum environment is different on mobile.


I am thinking to create a GitHub repository for Cruiser.
In case some of you find the GitHub Discussions / Issues easier to use.

e.g. see the Discussions and Issues of the map library

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