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William Bottaci

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Jul 14, 2024, 2:01:12 PM (8 days ago) Jul 14
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A new modular 'do it all' astro-imaging item, the DWARF 3 Smart Telescope, under £400; besides stacking it has nebula filters and other features.
You know how you can get a Ha solar telescope, then a Ha module for your existing telescope - wondering if someone will be making a module of camera, filters, and inbuilt processing to go with own larger existing telescope.
Or, is there too much of a divide between the new utility and the traditional setup, that there won't be a market for such a thing? I can see 'traditionalist' defending their patch...
Perhaps the next step will be larger and more sophisticated 'do it all' astro-imaging telescopes. Development works in all directions so maybe both a convergence and divergence of systems. Just so long as 'the next thing' will be better and cheaper, which we know is at least guaranteed, even if because there needs to be a consumer market, of which the professional researcher is not limited by.
As far as I know there is no item on the market where a visual observer, rather than viewing direct optically, uses a device with two cameras, one per binocular, going to two 'eye screens' such as used by mirrorless cameras; thus a personal electronic experience that uses both eyes, because the experience is more than just one eye doubling up.
William

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Jul 14, 2024, 2:09:39 PM (8 days ago) Jul 14
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Thanks for the heads up. Be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Seestar that seems to be flavour of the month. My desire not to wait hours to accumulate data and then have to fiddle about to get a nice image has held me back from getting one.

Pegasus astro have announced a “pop it in your scope” smart eyepiece https://pegasusastro.com/products/smarteye/ will need good tracking, still need time to accumulate images. Not seen any reviews yet. 
The best you’re likely to get for “realtime” two-eyed visual observing would be with a binoscope with an image intensifier in each tube. Rather fearsomely expensive, but the binocular summation ability of the brain gives even more than a single eyed intensifier can, which itself a lot compared to normal glass. Nothing is likely to be able to show galactic nebulae better visually. Not for everyone, not perfect on all objects, but another option.

Peter
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On 14 Jul 2024, at 18:54, William Bottaci <w.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

A new modular 'do it all' astro-imaging item, the DWARF 3 Smart

Telescope, under £400; besides stacking it has nebula filters and
other features.
You know how you can get a Ha solar telescope, then a Ha module for
your existing telescope - wondering if someone will be making a module
of camera, filters, and inbuilt processing to go with own larger
existing telescope.
Or, is there too much of a divide between the new utility and the
traditional setup, that there won't be a market for such a thing? I
can see 'traditionalist' defending their patch...
Perhaps the next step will be larger and more sophisticated 'do it
all' astro-imaging telescopes.
Development works in all directions, so maybe both a convergence and

divergence of systems. Just so long as 'the next thing' will be better
and cheaper, which at least we know is guaranteed, even if because

there needs to be a consumer market, of which the professional
researcher is not limited by.
As far as I know there is no item on the market where a visual
observer, rather then viewing direct optically, uses a device with two

cameras, one per binocular, going to two 'eye screens' such as used by
mirrorless cameras; thus a personal electronic experience that uses
both eyes, because the experience is more than just one eye doubling
up.

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Mike Maunder

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Jul 14, 2024, 2:41:57 PM (8 days ago) Jul 14
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An interesting mail, William, thanks.

I’m not sure if a “beastie” I bought about a decade ago fits your binocular query. This definitely had SD card(s?) to record what you saw and, from memory, allowed stereo, a topic I’m well into since the ‘70s, with several stereo cameras. Not as good as Sir Brian May but there you go, but we have exchanged correspondence after my late wife & myself worked on his prototype viewer with him at Sir Patrick’s & I have 2 of his stereo books.

Unfortunately, I was rather busy at the time and never really got the “beastie” going, but it’s still in its box & I’ll retrieve it sometime next week when back in Woking and report back. First trials I found it a bit unwieldly in binocular mode alone....

I do have a Sony digital stereo camera that did work, after a fashion, in astro topics. Unfortunately, my email doesn’t allow me to send an example due to size, but if interested, I’ll chop down in photoshop to send. That digi camera also records video that can be played back on what are now rare 3-D TVs.

Mike

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