Re: How Long Was Ichigo In The Dangai
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When circumstances deem it necessary, the Kōryū can be stopped using a method referred to as Kaikyō Kotei (界境固定, Realm Boundary Fixation; Viz "Boundary Fixation"). Normally, lower-echelon Shinigami enter the dimension in great numbers and using a special method, pour in their Reiatsu to fixate the current. However, individuals in possession of significant quantities of Reiatsu can single-handedly suppress the current for extended periods of time, but only after the insertion of four small forked blades into various locations along the Dangai's wall, and as long as the user remains connected to these items for the duration. Isshin Kurosaki states that someone with his level of Reiatsu can maintain this state for no longer than 2000 hours, according to the time frame within the confines of the Dangai.[4]
Now, you might wonder if that makes any sense that one's body can't handle their own reiatsu, but its actually shown to be possible: Yamamoto's own Bankai, where he exerts a level of reiatsu that resembles fire as hot as the sun, would have reduced his own self to nothing under the intensity of his own power had he remained in the form for too long.
The reason why that reiatsu point was important is because by comparing the constant quantity of reiatsu stored in their bodies, both forms of ichigo can be compared in strength. If one can be proven to have more reiatsu in their body at a consistent rate, it will point to that Ichigo being the strongest.
2. ichigo got burned by butterflaizen's fragor attack. how would you really compare ichigo's durability to that of superman when superman doesn't get burned by sundipping ? also, black coffin would never equal to a black hole and to compare that to superman's black hole feat is ridiculous
also, where did you get the idea that dangai ichigo is above yamamoto when aizen himself acknowledges yamamoto being stronger than him to a point that he created wonderweiss just to counter him ? heck, dangai ichigo may casually break mountains but he ain't strong enough to instantly vaporize the water in soul society in bankai form like yamamoto did and that's the least that bankai's destructive capability has done.
6. it was evident that air pressure was cutting down the land when ichigo and butterflaizen were fighting or else it would be something more discernible. soul pressure and energy attacks in bleach is visualized accordingly as well so what are talking about as something else ? you are assuming ichigo is pulling his strikes but there is no direct indication of that whatsoever. you may interpret his face as lacking any serious thought on blocking those attacks but till he actually says so or actually does more from mountain breaking attacks, it's only your interpretation at the very best.
Not the right thread to ask the question. I'll be happy to educate you on dangai in a PM if you want. But if you don't know what dangai/any other thing is, wikipedia is generally a reliable source, instead of going around randomly on random threads to ask people if they know about it to educate you.
3. The fight didn't continue long enough to see him use it for combat, but he was moving and everything just fine afterwards. Aizen had been wrong about everything he said about Ichigo save for the "He is on a Higher level.....then I?". Aizen was misunderstanding and underrating Ichigo the entire time, there's no reason to take what he said about Ichigo's limits seriously.
1. tite kubo draw that ichigo became getsuga and when he became getsuga, mugetsu was his attack. you really want to argue on that ? take it up to tite kubo, the mangaka of bleach. you are doing pointless argument on that when the author has already shown it as it is.
6. seriously, till we actually see any semblance of a black hole's effect in it, it is not one. a black hole' gravity heavily distorts the space around it that you would actually see hole in it and black coffin never even distorted the area it encompassed. do you see ichigo's image being distorted before or after that ? you are the one comparing that effect to a black hole's gravity when it doesn't even remotely look like one.
6. you are still making the mistake that black coffin has the gravity equal to that black hole when all indication it isn't even one. yes he got covered by it but would the effect be noticeable even before the black coffin covered him or after that ? heck, because of aizen's statement that it warps the gravity around it, you are equaling it to a black hole's effect and thus you are using that same interpretation to compare to kal's escape from a black hole. the basic black hole's effect is generally felt, seen in the area it appears and it generally doesn't leave things unscathed. just look at ichigo after breaking black coffin.
4. most people who would say that he wasn't trying that fight are the same people who would argue that ichigo can fight thought robot superman or golden superman (i have seen that). point is it doesn't matter on whether or not he wasn't trying, till he actually shows something to that point then we start discussing that.
3. Many people will argue that, I've seen posts 5 paragraphs long talking about the numbers of just how powerful he is now. Not sure how accurate it is, but he should be that powerful by the time the manga ends, don't you think? Hopefully we get to see more feats from him on this level to find out more.
If we go by power scaling it should be pretty powerful not because of the high number but because Aizen did it after his power up and looked like he was serious about it this implies some serious stoping power as his sword strikes where holding against ichigo .
Due to the density of time within the Dangai, Ichigo returned to the Human World only an hour after departing from the Soul Society. He appeared with longer hair, a slightly taller stature, and a seemingly stronger connection with his Bankai. Shortly after arriving, he was able to overpower Aizen immediately, carrying him over a considerable distance, stopping his Zanpakutō with his bare hands, and countering his Hado 90: Kurohitsugi, all while exerting little to no effort.
In this form, Ichigo's hair grows even longer and is dyed pitch black. He is surrounded by a black Reiatsu, and most parts of his body are covered in bandage-like attire from the waist up. This form allowed him to perform the all-powerful Mugetsu, an ability potent enough to paint the sky black and attack Aizen with tremendous force, weakening him enough so that Kisuke Urahara could finish the job.
Weaknesses: Ichigo is brash and can rush into fights without thinking, and he can also be too merciful or have his powers limited by his lack of fighting spirit. He can only use his Hollow Mask for so long, originally for four to eleven seconds. Using Mugetsu will strip him of all his Shinigami powers and cause him to fall unconscious for a month
Bankai - Tensa Zangetsu: Activated by pointing his Zanpakutō outwards and allowing its cloth to wrap around his arm, Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu is very out of the ordinary for a Bankai. It shrinks Ichigo's normally massive sword down to a daitō, a long sword, with a black blade, focusing and compressing all of its power for use in hyper-speed combat. The appearance of his Bankai shifts after his training in the Dangai, covering his right hand with a black glove and wrapping its chain all around his arm.
Full Hollow Form: When Zangetsu takes full possession of Ichigo's body, the body undergoes a full transformation into a Hollow creature. His mask resembles a Human skull, complete with a jaw joint and rounded forehead, and has dark red stripes on the left side. Unlike normal Hollows, this form used an actual weapon, using Ichigo's Zanpakutō. Ichigo later has his body taken over by Zangetsu once again. This time, the full transformation is very physically different in appearance and far more powerful than the previous one. In this form, Ichigo has long straight hair, reaching down to his waist, and a Hollow hole, smaller than his previous one, decorated with markings stretching from the hole across his chest and shoulders. In this new form, he has a different Hollow mask. It covers Ichigo's entire head, and its markings are different, for it has four spike-shaped marks, two of them stopping by the forehead and the other two stretching past the eyes and teeth, going past his chin and joining with the marks on his chest. The mask features two long forward-pointing horns, with black strips extending from their center towards the tips.
This character is has the same moves as the normal ichigo character because all the attempts i made to make a Mugetsu move failed miserably. If i manage to make it in future i will upload a better version of this charfacter. Well hope you enjoy :)
Ichigo's completed Fullbring, which covers him in an armored bodysuit that increases his strength, speed, and durability. In this state, Ichigo can use Bringer Light, a Fullbringer technique that pulls on the soul of the ground to propel him across long distances, and a blade forms from his Shinigami badge to use as a weapon.
After getting his broken Zanpakuto reforged, Ichigo learned that his inner Hollow was actually the spirit of Zangetsu. By making peace with Zangetsu, Ichigo is no longer in danger of being possessed by him. However, Ichigo can still meld with his inner Hollow to transform into an extremely powerful form. Unlike his Vasto Lorde form, Ichigo's body only undergoes a partial transformation, and Ichigo still has full control over himself in this state.
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