How do I get a Crow Box Kit

[IKINA WANA]

Wow!  I've been wanting to build a "crow vending machine" (as it came to be called in my house) for a very long time now!  Ran a search in Google and found "TheCrowBox.com!  How do I get a kit?  For some reason there are MANY crows here in my neighborhood (Fort Collins, CO) and I'd like to give this project a shot.  If your still looking for testers, I'd like to volunteer as well.  I'm a disabled veteran, so my Google page is all about veterans and won't really tell you a lot about my background, but I am a Technology Specialist and feel the electronics involved are right up my alley!  This is a fascinating project!

Please let me know how I can get a kit - I'm excited to get started!

Thank you,

Kris Bancroft
Fort Collins, CO

[Josh Klein]

Great! The designs are freely available on the site; download them, find a laser cutter (or use a service), order the parts, and you should be good to go - the group is also a great place to go for feedback and suggestions! We could use more folks with a tech background so I'm stoked you're interested!!

Keep me posted!!

Best,
Josh

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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 05:58 PM, IKINA WANA<just...@gmail.com>, wrote:

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[IKINA WANA]

Thanks Josh.  I downloaded the plans and will get started immediately!  I was hoping that you had an actual kit with all of the parts I could just assemble, but the plans work for me.  I'll definitely keep an eye on the group and also post project updates as I go along.  I'm sure I'll be looking for some good advice as well! 

Thanks again,

Kris Bancroft

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[BrJ Phelps]

No one has ever replicated the "research" of Joshua Klein. If you search in YouTube you will see that one person tried for six months and wild crows would still not use the box. Joshua Klein has not been forthcoming with the fact that he used captive crows. This is extremely unlikely to work with wild crows.

[Josh Klein]

If you've any advice on how to be more forthcoming, please let me know - it's in the second sentence on the website! I'm also really curious about the video, but couldn't find it; can you provide a link?

best,

Josh

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[IKINA WANA]

Hello Josh,

I'm having some trouble finding someone who can laser cut the parts for me.  Do you offer a "kit" with the parts already cut out?  I'm anxious to get started, but I'm stuck until I can find someone to cut the parts for me.

Thanks again,
Kris Bancroft

[Josh Klein]

I ordered from a manufacturer here in NYC, but they normally have pretty substantial minimum order sizes. 

Have you tried something like www.pololu.com? They contract out to laser cutters all over the country and deliver to your door. I haven't used them, but if they (or a solution like them) does work out please let us know!! And if not, ping me again and let's see if we can brainstorm other options. 

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[BrJ Phelps]

Here is the video on a very good attempt but failing to replicate Joshua Klein's "research":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdvEBEGRWkM

If Joshua Klein actually wants to be upfront, it would help if he would actually present his data. His TedTalk says he did a lot but no video, no data of what he actually did with his captive crows

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:58:00 PM UTC-5, IKINA WANA wrote:

[Josh Klein]

Thanks for the link - that's Steve Joy's crowbox; he and I spoke early this year. I don't think he ran it for six months (the video references two weeks) but I'll double check - I know he had big concerns about the design not being waterproof. Either way, he said that one of the biggest problems with his design was that that coins and the food were too far apart. I'm hopeful this will validate our design decision to use the same tray for both the food and coins. 

My thesis paper is available at http://www.josh.is/crow-machine/; check it out, and if you think having additional data made available would help I'd be happy to provide it. Just let me know what would be most useful!

best,

Josh

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A Croe Box Kit for sale:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/212149291/crow-box-vending-machine-kit-crows-bring

The latest video using that kit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSsVBPh9Lo

Thanks

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at 2:58:00 PM UTC-7, WAR FIGHTERS wrote:

[Josh Klein]

So cool! Does anybody know what training protocol he went through to get the crows using his box? If not I'll ask; the crows in the video seem very comfortable with him around.

- J

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