Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Chile Earthquake -- Google's update on imagery and Map Maker

[Christiaan Adams]

Forwarding to crisismappers-chile@

See below about licensing for the Chile imagery we are currently making available, including the RapidEye in this KML:

http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/chile_earthquake_2010/Chile-Earthquake-nl.kml

Thanks,

-Christiaan

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, France Lamy <fl...@google.com> wrote:

Bonjour Nicolas,

All the imagery that we are currently purchasing from DG and GeoEye
falls under our current commercial licensing agreement that we have in
place. Currently, no restrictions to the licensed content have been
lifted due to the tragedy, as they were for Haiti. But if that
situation changes we will make sure to let you know.

Thanks,
France

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:57 PM, nicolas chavent
<nicolas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> France and the group-
>
> Did we have some clarification on the request put up below by Jonas on permission for OSM to trace data from the Google and partners imagery and make the data available under CC-BY-SA (commercial use allowed) within the OSM project?
>
> Thanks for this
> Best
> N
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Jonas Krückel (John07) <jona...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> France,
>> As soon as you can make imagery available, please also provide clear information about the licensing and the permissions for tracing derived data. In the past (Haiti crisis) OpenStreetMap got the permission to trace data from the imagery and make the data available under CC-BY-SA (commercial use allowed). Note that OSM doesn't want to license the imagery under CC-BY-SA, but the data traced from it.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Jonas
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
>>
>> 2010/2/27 France Lamy <fl...@google.com>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> As promised, the Map Maker data for Chile is now live at
>>> http://mapmaker.google.com/datadownload
>>>
>>> Hope this is useful. Please let us know if you have any questions,
>>> comments, or suggestions!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> France
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:00 AM, France Lamy <fl...@google.com> wrote:
>>> > Colleagues,
>>> >
>>> > To support the relief efforts in Chile following the earthquake that
>>> > struck early Saturday morning, our team will make available Google Map
>>> > Maker for Chile for non-commercial use. We are actively working on
>>> > this now and anticipate it will be ready mid-day, 02/27/10 (PST).
>>> > Google is happy to augment the maps further if needed and welcomes
>>> > volunteers to map relief and logistics points.
>>> >
>>> > We are also working with our satellite partners, GeoEye and
>>> > DigitalGlobe, to get imagery of the affected areas.  Earliest access
>>> > for the satellite imargery is Sunday morning.
>>> >
>>> > We hope that this data will help the many responding organizations to
>>> > best assist the population affected by this terrible event.
>>> >
>>> > Data will be posted at http://mapmaker.google.com/datadownload.
>>> >
>>> > We will keep you posted!
>>> > France
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > France Lamy, Ph.D.
>>> > Program Manager
>>> > Google.org
>>> > Mountain View
>>> > +1 (415) 736-1031 (direct)
>>> > +1 (415) 690-5129 (cell)
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> France Lamy, Ph.D.
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>>> Google.org
>>> Mountain View
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>>> +1 (415) 690-5129 (cell)
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France Lamy, Ph.D.
Program Manager
Google.org
Mountain View
+1 (415) 736-1031 (direct)
+1 (415) 690-5129 (cell)

[Marten Hogeweg]

That means this statement http://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines.html applies?

 Tracing. You may not use Google Maps or Google Earth as the basis for tracing your own maps or other geographic content.

so: OSM cannot use the imagery to trace objects in Chile?

Marten

[Jean-Guilhem Cailton]

Marten,

This is indeed my understanding of your quote, and of France's...

What is Google's motto, again ?

Cheers,

Jean-Guilhem


Marten Hogeweg a écrit :

[Jean-Guilhem Cailton]

Sorry Christiaan,

Nothing personal here.

I have no doubt that you guys are doing your best. (And I do appreciate
it all day long).

This was my modest, maybe awkward way to encourage opening, by voicing
what the reaction of M. everybody could be.

I have no precise knowledge of advertising, but my guess is that a
dollar invested in this kind of effort is worth more than one dollar
invested in "traditional advertising".

(not copying your private mail here. This is my 0.02 cent idea on how to
encourage data providers to open up their license terms, by gaining free
"media space").

Sincerely yours,

Jean-Guilhem