Re: Vray For Revit Crack 187
Mina Delahoussaye
It would be incredibly powerful if we could use the 3ds max / vray libraries that we've built over the years in Enscape. It would solve the whole issue of entourage without Enscape having to resort to building a massive library like Lumion and Twinmotion.
Perhaps Enscape could use the recently released directcontext 3d api for Revit. It looks like you can display massive files in Revit without affecting the performance at all. That way we could actually see the objects in Revit, which would help out with exact placement. Placing could be very similar to placing sound objects in Enscape (using a generic placeholder family that links to a max file).
It's unrealistic because with Vray you are only calculating what is under the render bucket at render time. Enscape is loading and calculating the entire scene at the same time. This makes it very prohibitive to high polycounts, whether proxies or not. Even on the Sketchup end with proxies, it will kill performance if you use a super high poly asset. Twinmotion and Lumion are the same. You can import a high poly Evermotion tree into Lumion, but if you get more than a handful of them, your FPS will drop to unusable levels. The plant libraries that they use are all Speedtree, which creates Levels of Detail based on distance to the camera which is much more efficient. Even their other models are very low poly if you really look at them. Like Bart said, you'd be better off using assets made for a game engine.
For background trees, I'd recommend Archmodels 113. They are built as low poly assets and work amazing with Enscape as is.
Also, perhaps Enscape could bring out a plugin/exporter (for 3ds max for example) so that we can export our models to the Enscape format, that would be another way for us to get our legacy libraries into Enscape.
I would agree, if the enscape team can come up with someway to get proxy elements into revit, by maybe changing out a place holder inside enscape like they are doing with the entourage that would be an awesome add to revit. considering at this time there is no way to have decent models in revit at render time. Also if the placeholder was a family type we could simply hide that category in the normal views.
So far with all my testing the one lack the revit version has over the sketchup version is the content. Furniture, vegetation, stuff!!! If we could use max or sketchup models as proxies objects in revit.......well lets just say enscape would be the new king of the hill! IMHO
That's great news. Honestly, we've been a bit jealous with the quality of the work produced in Sketchup+Enscape (we're using Revit), and we feel that the biggest hurdle to get to the same quality in Revit is the lack of props, vegetation, etc. In theory we could model all these things in Revit but it would take forever and make the model super slow. Using existing models as proxies would be enormously powerful.
I have been using a linked Revit model that hosts all my entourage which is unloaded until I want to run Enscape. This way I can dump any downloaded content or even non-native formats and decals and not worry about upsetting live design models. We are also making small incremental updates to our standard family library to make them a bit better in VR. Small things like adding door and cupboard handles, small gaps between drawer and cupboard fronts and material parameters for everything. Generally they still look the same in 2D but the difference in 3D is very noticeable.
Good point Chris. All of this can definitely help, but at the end of the day, there's a lot of props/vegetation/entourage that I would like to use that don't exist in .rfa format. Importing meshes into revit loses the mapping information, and even if you can work around that is very time consuming.
There's an API in revit (since 2018) that allows you to draw geometry on screen without affecting model performance (I think it uses the naviswork engine). If Enscape could use this API to draw our proxies on the canvas in Revit (so we have an easy time placing them), but within the Enscape window it could read the geometry directly from the .fbx (or .obj) file. I realize it's a big request, but it would finally fix the whole issue of props/vegetation/entourage and Revit.
I realize these props can be put in as rpc's, but that library is expensive and limited. We have giant libraries that we've taken a decade to build. We don't want to start over but rather reuse the props that we already have (and that our principals love).
I agree completely. Seems we are stuck in a middle world. The sketchup version of enscape has all the goodies and extra items that can be brought into the model but a horrible material system (not enscape's fault) The revit version has a awesome material setup but no content. Needs to be someway to marry the two together. Other render engines have been able to do this in the revit environment. Take maxwell for an example, they made it work to a point.
This issue happens only in certain revit files. First, trying to acquire license for revit takes too much time (5 to 10 minutes). After acquiring license, adding materials in the asset editor is imposible, and the program crashes. I look for v-ray support, they realized that my rvt file had almost 50 000!! instances of the Fase - existente material. I dont have any idea of how I achieved that number of instances, but even when I purged unused materials and also after auditing my file, the problem persists.
When the add-in is disabled I dont have problems with the file, maybe is a bit slower than other files. But the issue is when I purged unused materials, there were almost 50000 instances of a same material. I think that is mainly the cause, also v-ray forum says that the issue is related with the quantity of instances of a same material, and I couldnt realize, till now, how all that repeated instances were there...
Revit should require that materials (as well as Material Assets) have unique names. If you are finding that there are tens of thousands of materials with the exact same name, that could cause problems in Revit as well as add-ins that interact with materials.
Note: If you have blocked the mode to choose spherical or cubemap your camera and you find a important icon and you can not change because you have only standard view, check this msg> from chaos vray When the current view is set to an ortho 3D view, the Mode is locked to Standard Camera, while VR Spherical Panorama and VRCubemap are unavailable, change the view or click on pick focus point
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